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Robindaybird posted:Don't bother responding to Bravestofthelamps, they're a fly-by troll that loves to poo poo up threads. clevinofthelamps is my friend he saved me from 'nam when I was a wee baby
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I hope cops will learn from that scene where the heroes torture someone for information.
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To be fair, if I were a cop I would probably watch movies primarily as an escape from reality, because my whole job would be dealing with reality every single day. Why would I want or expect a movie to teach me how the world works? Not saying all cops are like that, or that it's the right way to watch movies. But generally, if I were trying to teach hard life lessons to a cop, a movie would probably be the worst way to do it. The most I could hope for is that it would plant a seed of an idea, Inception-style.
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I think the point is that the message in Zootopia is so loving obvious that if you missed it you must have been watching it in a completely superficial way to begin with, which isn't surprising seeing how most people approach film let alone animated films
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Jun 13, 2017 14:10
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The animated short before Coco will be....... Olaf's Frozen Adventure 
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Hedrigall posted:The animated short before Coco will be....... Whatever this looks like it'll be cute. Elsa's still got dat fashion 
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Jun 13, 2017 15:23
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Looking forward to Anna and Elsa's Kwaanza Co-opt.
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Frozen: A Chanukkah Miracle
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Hedrigall posted:The animated short before Coco will be....... Does this mean they don't have confidence in Coco? Or is it just a way of making dumb money off Coco? Only time will tell.
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Jun 13, 2017 17:15
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Frozen: always winter but never Christmas
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Come to think of it, is this the first time there's been a Disney feature paired with a Pixar one?
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dirksteadfast posted:Does this mean they don't have confidence in Coco? Or is it just a way of making dumb money off Coco? Only time will tell. Considering the current political chaos in the US, and Frozen being an instant money maker, probably both. Coco is gonna be a massive hit in my country, that's for sure.
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Oh god, this is going to be like Secret Life of Pets, where they had a minion short before the film. My fiancé just really likes cats and dogs.
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It's a smart move. No matter what, Coco is going to get some Fox News or Breitbart controversy. And considering I've seen every Pixar movie in theaters except for the Cars franchise, and I'm lukewarm about Coco, they've probably got reason to be concerned. It's also a little weird that a Pixar flick is getting a DAS short.
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CRINDY posted:It's a smart move. No matter what, Coco is going to get some Fox News or Breitbart controversy. And considering I've seen every Pixar movie in theaters except for the Cars franchise, and I'm lukewarm about Coco, they've probably got reason to be concerned. Well that's cause Pixar's own animated short of going before Cars 3
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Macaluso posted:Well that's cause Pixar's own animated short of going before Cars 3 It's weird though because there's precedent for Pixar having two films and two shorts in one year, Inside Out and Good Dinosaur had Lava and Sanjay's Super Team respectively. But it looks like Lava was completed in mid-2014 and presumably would have run with OG Good Dinosaur before it was delayed, so that probably explains that. edit: wait what the gently caress this Olaf Frozen thing is TWENTY ONE MINUTES LONG?? Either Coco is like 80 minutes or it's going to be an exhausting experience. I wonder if people will leave the theater after the short now. CRINDY fucked around with this message at 23:58 on Jun 13, 2017 |
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Jun 13, 2017 23:45
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Movies regularly have 2 hour runtimes. Like, how is that exhausting? it's not like there's any intellectually challenging aspect of either short or movie. Even if total everything runs 2hrs 15min, it's hardly labor intensive.
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CRINDY posted:I wonder if people will leave the theater after the short now. What. No
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Jun 14, 2017 00:34
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No Hedrigall but were they trying to make that Bigfoot super hot
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CRINDY posted:I wonder if people will leave the theater after the short now. I'm going to take my sweet time getting to my seat, honestly.
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Jun 14, 2017 00:42
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Yeah, I expect I'm in the minority compared to most of the movie's target audience but being forced to watch 21 minutes of Olaf has me significantly less interested in seeing Coco in the cinema to be honest.
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Jun 14, 2017 00:44
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Fangz posted:That's the kind of dodgy logic that leads to people saying they don't need sensitivity training because surely they aren't racist. To be fair, some of the recent headlines regarding controversial police actions involved things that were very obviously deliberate abuses of authority (if not the incident itself, then the way the department' handled it). Can people who are actively bigoted (or otherwise power-hungry shitbags) be reliably rehabilitated via sensitivity training as we know it?
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Jun 14, 2017 00:48
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Haledjian posted:No Hedrigall but were they trying to make that Bigfoot super hot what Is "No Hedrigall" like a "No homo" style phrase now
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Jun 14, 2017 01:03
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No Hedirgall, but I would actively be more interested if the characters in Coco were other species, like pigs or goats or mustelids.
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Macaluso posted:What. No I've already seen posts on some websites' social media where people say they're doing just that. Theaters already rent out screens for special events, I wonder if Disney would ever do a stunt where they rent out a hall for a few hours and charge $5 to watch a 20-30 minute short like this
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Cockmaster posted:To be fair, some of the recent headlines regarding controversial police actions involved things that were very obviously deliberate abuses of authority (if not the incident itself, then the way the department' handled it). Can people who are actively bigoted (or otherwise power-hungry shitbags) be reliably rehabilitated via sensitivity training as we know it? It might make a difference with the larger number of officers who might not do anything terrible themselves but would defend without question 'fellow officers' who do.
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Fangz posted:It might make a difference with the larger number of officers who might not do anything terrible themselves but would defend without question 'fellow officers' who do. Honestly this is the biggest issue - the blue wall of silence is a very real thing, any cop trying to report corruption or bad behavior gets froze out (or in Serpico's case, his fellow officers lured him into a position where he would be shot and then left to bleed out)
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Cockmaster posted:To be fair, some of the recent headlines regarding controversial police actions involved things that were very obviously deliberate abuses of authority (if not the incident itself, then the way the department' handled it). Can people who are actively bigoted (or otherwise power-hungry shitbags) be reliably rehabilitated via sensitivity training as we know it? Well, no, but that's precisely the cognitive dissonance that Zootopia is designed to rationalize. Its frame narrative is literally a character giving an anti-bias speech, while at the same time making sure to never say anything specific so that nobody in particular has to feel bad or even look like a slight ignoramus. In both the film, and now its educational exhibition, the preoccupation is with bias/sensitivity, because actually debating the role of policing is moot. You can't even say that Zootopia is teaching these dicks to think of the citizens before the 'fellow officer.' The villain of Zootopia is not a cop. Bunny Cop doesn't have to roll over on anybody, because abuse is never actually depicted, except as bullying by children. Violence against the "innocent" (not the oppressed, but the innocent) is the result of a political conspiracy, and the problem is that bias/lack of sensitivity gets in the way of fighting 'the real bad guys.'
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In the course of solving the Night Howler Caper, Judy Hopps commits several crimes in the investigative process. She blackmails someone into assisting her and becomes intertwined into a mafia family, becoming the goddaughter of a mob boss's granddaughter. No one ever mentions it, she gets away with it, and the film rewards her for doing it. She also pulls strings to get a career criminal a job at the police station. This might not be the best movie to show cops, on second thought.
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Jun 14, 2017 01:45
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Cops have no problem with breaking the law.
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"CRINDY" posted:edit: wait what the gently caress this Olaf Frozen thing is TWENTY ONE MINUTES LONG?? ahaha gently caress that ill wait for Coco to hit redbox/netflix what in the hell
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Koramei posted:Yeah, I expect I'm in the minority compared to most of the movie's target audience but being forced to watch 21 minutes of Olaf has me significantly less interested in seeing Coco in the cinema to be honest.  
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That trailer was awful, and everyone in the comments was crowing about how Elsa got a new dress or wahtever. 
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Olaf was the best part of Frozen
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Wrong, the reindeer was. I really like the sassy non-talking animal sidekicks in recent Disney films 
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K. Waste posted:In both the film, and now its educational exhibition, the preoccupation is with bias/sensitivity, because actually debating the role of policing is moot. You can't even say that Zootopia is teaching these dicks to think of the citizens before the 'fellow officer.' The villain of Zootopia is not a cop. Bunny Cop doesn't have to roll over on anybody, because abuse is never actually depicted, except as bullying by children. I wonder if the police were portrayed more negatively in the original version? Concept art has Nick as the protagonist being chased by the police through Little Rodentia instead of the weasel and Chief Bogo being a dick: 
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ThePlague-Daemon posted:I wonder if the police were portrayed more negatively in the original version? Concept art has Nick as the protagonist being chased by the police through Little Rodentia instead of the weasel and Chief Bogo being a dick: The police were explicitly totalitarian in the original. Even Judy. Iirc there's concept art floating around of Judy in what looked like a prison menacingly bouncing a nightstick off her hand.
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Jun 14, 2017 06:24
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Wait, this Olaf thing is 21 minutes long? RIP Coco I'm not sitting through that just for songs I can listen to without watching the movie.
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ThePlague-Daemon posted:I wonder if the police were portrayed more negatively in the original version? Concept art has Nick as the protagonist being chased by the police through Little Rodentia instead of the weasel and Chief Bogo being a dick: Clawhauser back in his twink days
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