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| Labour |
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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
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ThomasPaine posted:I got Bolshevik. Sorry my dudes. e: 453 - Attila the Hun is killed by a Goth princess  1453 - France kicks England out of Europe. Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 00:30 on Jun 14, 2017 |
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Guavanaut posted:I think according to the picture I have to throw an old leather football with a candle in it at you now or something. I'll hold the beachball.
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Gort posted:Ah yes, the famous free market industries, banking and energy production. Don't know how it works in the UK, but in Norway the company that sells you the electrical power is a 100% financial construct that does nothing of worth. Just a bunch of financial advisors getting paid big bucks for "trading" energy on the "open" market. Most of our power is hydro. The dams were mostly built by local companies mostly 100% owned by the local government. The same company produced electricity and laid the infrastructure transporting the electricity to your light bulb. This worked fine. But at some point the government figured out the "market" should be "open" and "competitive". The local companies were split in two (or three). On company maintaining infrastructure and producing electricity (In some cases two companies) and one selling electricity to the consumer. This last company is pure rent seeking and adds nothing of value. A bunch of them popped up "competing" for my kroners. Who the gently caress has time to compare electricity prices all day to save a buck?? Most of my electricity bill is still going to the proper company anyway for "renting infrastructure". As longs as it's free trade I guess.
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General China posted:You forget the OPEC crisis. Inflation was at 10 or 20 percent for a long time in the early 70s. The OPEC crisis was only part of the cause of stagflation. The budget I alluded to was where the Heath government, flush with the widespread adoption of credit cards, had the genius idea of cutting taxes while keeping spending the same because they thought the spike in consumption caused by the citizenry having more disposable income would keep the revenue rolling in anyway. Inflation was already starting to spike when OPEC started getting ornery - the rising price of fuel was just the finishing blow.
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There's a similarly convoluted system here in NZ. Anyone can build a dam or windfarm and start generating power, but that power has to be sent over the transmission network, which is owned and maintained by the government. It then comes off the transmission network in any given town and onto the local distribution network, which is owned and maintained by private companies, who then charge another, separate company who sell the power to the public and pay the people generating it. It's actually not a bad setup, I'm just mad because it's designed to make my life miserable- I'm an arborist working around the lines, but the overlaps are never clear and every company has different regulations and procedures so you never know if you're going to catch a bollocking for operating under the wrong work authority or only putting 1 metre clearance on a tree when they specify 1.5 or whatever Basically bureaucracy is a splinter in the eye of the working man
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ThomasPaine posted:I got Bolshevik. Sorry my dudes. Welcome.
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Where's the commie and or anarchist icons, tankie mod?
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namesake posted:There's also his amazing interrogation of Livingstone where he comes off looking like the idiot/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK4ZozRuqpg Killed By Death fucked around with this message at 01:24 on Jun 14, 2017 |
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Lord of the Llamas posted:I remember when we all did the "who are you in the Russian Revolution" quiz and most of us got Left SR (who were the first to be killed by all the other cunts) but maybe this time we win???? I guess I missed a lot from staying as far from this formerly depressing hope-vacuum of a thread for two years, cause this is awesome. Do the drawings come from a book?
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https://twitter.com/oz_f/status/874520700727447552 What's the chances
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tithin posted:https://twitter.com/oz_f/status/874520700727447552 Bad for corbyn
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learnincurve posted:Yes. Also immigrants who are conveniently ignoring that fact because apparently if you are from Australia then sending them all home does not apply to you. From a few pages back and might have been said already but show them the articles about the Canadian family with a Gaidhlig fluent child who were sent back from their village in the Highlands, leaving the one shop in the village with no one to run it and costing them their livelihoods. http://www.scotsman.com/news/odd/canadian-cafe-owners-set-for-deportation-in-two-weeks-1-4424593 The Brain family were Aussies and got a bit luckier, but still. No one's safe. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/sep/20/australian-family-fighting-deportation-granted-visa-to-remain-in-uk
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Killed By Death posted:Seriously, if you've never seen it: My god it's so obvious Livingston is just an old dude who phrases things badly and not in any way an antisemite. I wish labour would just stop looking all sad and apologetic when this is brought up and actually own the position.
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tithin posted:https://twitter.com/oz_f/status/874520700727447552 Low but not impossible. Sun is a bad source E: double post sorry
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Killed By Death posted:Seriously, if you've never seen it: Chuka comes off so badly here. It's obvious within ten seconds he's trying to carefully word his questions to create some kind of inescapable trap, and then getting angry when Ken tries to explain his views instead of giving an answer that would be the headline of tomorrow's paper. Then when he doesn't get the answer he wants he decides to rant instead of asking a question. He might be quite justified in his opinions, but it demonstrates that he has absolutely no respect for the committee process or what it's trying to achieve at all. He just views it as another platform to try and spin a narrative. Rewatching this has hardened me against letting any of the so-called 'moderates' back into the shadow cabinet. Thanks!
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ThomasPaine posted:Low but not impossible. Sun is a bad source In this case the sun is spinning a lie from the truth. Sinn Fein MPs travelling to London and making use of the office space given to them is normal in every Parliament, it doesn't say anything about whether they'll take their seats (they won't). It doesn't make any sense for either side, even with Sinn Fein the Tory-DUP still have a majority. If we're making up crazy hypotheticals, one might as well imagine the Tories and the SNP doing a deal for full scottish independence, no referendum required. At least in that hypothetical the Conservatives come out with a majority of the seats post indy. Side note, I'm so glad the scottish referendum was before the EU referendum so we don't have to put up with Sexit as a news term.
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Holy poo poo that Umunna interview with Livingstone. "Here's an incredibly loaded premise, yes or no?" I mean gently caress I'm not Livingstone's biggest fan and even I think that comes off as a hit piece. EDIT: Wait is this his channel? Does he think the tantrum at the end is a really good look or something? 
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jabby posted:Rewatching this has hardened me against letting any of the so-called 'moderates' back into the shadow cabinet. Thanks! I feel like purging the centrists from even minor power this soon after everybody got on the jam train would just spook them all, which is something to avoid when anticipating a new election soon. You don't have enough leftists to just outright poo poo on the centrists. Yet.
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gently caress me. Huge fire in London. Hope everyone got out https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/live/2017/jun/14/grenfell-tower-major-fire-london-apartment-block-white-city-latimer-road
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StoicFnord posted:gently caress me. Huge fire in London. Hope everyone got out $10 they cheaped out on the cladding and bought the same flammable poo poo a bunch of developers were using in Australia.
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:$10 they cheaped out on the cladding and bought the same flammable poo poo a bunch of developers were using in Australia. No bet. That's about as sure as anything. I wonder how many firemen have been cut under the Tories? Can't see that coming up at all, can we?
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StoicFnord posted:gently caress me. Huge fire in London. Hope everyone got out 
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Yeah, there's meant to be 200+ people living in that tower, and if they all managed to escape a blaze like this in the small hours of the morning it's going to be a loving miracle: https://twitter.com/mamapie/status/874801031934357505
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tithin posted:https://twitter.com/oz_f/status/874520700727447552 Zero. e: goddamnedtwisto posted:And right in their own constitution. I think - absent some sort of earth-shattering event - any time people start talking about SF taking their seats you can straight up ignore anything they have to say about politics.
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jabby posted:He might be quite justified in his opinions, but it demonstrates that he has absolutely no respect for the committee process or what it's trying to achieve at all. He just views it as another platform to try and spin a narrative. That narrative being what, exactly? Antisemitism, even veiled antisemitism, isn't welcome in Labour? Of all the ways for a Corbyn-led Labour to destroy their new momentum, re-embracing the Livingstone types would be the most pathetic.
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StoicFnord posted:gently caress me. Huge fire in London. Hope everyone got out Nice news to wake up to when I randomly can't get back to sleep. I hope everyone made it out ok but that seems optimistic 
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I'm not very knowledgeable about fire, but I'm surprised by how very little lateral movement it would be making. Rising upward I get.
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Discendo Vox posted:I'm not very knowledgeable about fire, but I'm surprised by how very little lateral movement it would be making. Rising upward I get. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y60wDzZt8yg
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Namtab posted:Where's the commie and or anarchist icons, tankie mod? that's what the gang tag is for
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Apraxin posted:Looking at the live footage on Sky, it looks like it's actually gutted most of the building at this point: thats a husk. Sounds like it spread over a few hours so that's the crap cladding they just put on my flat. hope no one died.
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hookerbot 5000 posted:Fanny isn't a strong swear word? I say it all the time - in church and everything (or I would if I happened to be in a church at any point and someone was being a fanny). Fanny is actually a girls name here, I know of several people named that.
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Jesus gently caress, I posted about the fire in one of the C-SPAM threads and someone found this, from November of last year: https://grenfellactiongroup.wordpress.com/2016/11/20/kctmo-playing-with-fire/quote:It is a truly terrifying thought but the Grenfell Action Group firmly believe that only a catastrophic event will expose the ineptitude and incompetence of our landlord, the KCTMO, and bring an end to the dangerous living conditions and neglect of health and safety legislation that they inflict upon their tenants and leaseholders. We believe that the KCTMO are an evil, unprincipled, mini-mafia who have no business to be charged with the responsibility of looking after the every day management of large scale social housing estates and that their sordid collusion with the RBKC Council is a recipe for a future major disaster.
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Apraxin posted:Jesus gently caress, I posted about the fire in one of the C-SPAM threads and someone found this, from November of last year: https://grenfellactiongroup.wordpress.com/2016/11/20/kctmo-playing-with-fire/ holy poo poo :o
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Apraxin posted:Jesus gently caress, I posted about the fire in one of the C-SPAM threads and someone found this, from November of last year: https://grenfellactiongroup.wordpress.com/2016/11/20/kctmo-playing-with-fire/ Ah, so busybody arsonists trying to frame our good friends the developers then. What an ugly group of envious people trying to tear the basis of our society, the free exchange of property, apart.
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A lot of the early eyewitness stuff reported people trapped on the upper floors, waving from windows, flashing torches, screaming for help. The building now looks like this https://twitter.com/Natalie_Oxford/status/874829173738569729 So I think we're talking about the landlords being responsible for a bunch of deaths at this point. Really hope I'm wrong.
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