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VitalSigns posted:The prison system was the means by which black people were reenslaved and put to work on the same slave plantations from which they had been recently liberated. No, I didn't, you shitbag. But I enjoy reading your posts in the troglodyte grunting that the Afrikaans accent produces in English. Anyways, I guess there's nothing wrong, to you, to believe people are property, since forced labor that treats people as property and forced labor that doesn't are equal in your eyes.
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Clinton had house slaves, and the best defences offered is 'well technically they weren't bought'. She attributes the behaviour of her black servants as being the result of an inferior 'emotional' intellect, and people like JC gobble it up, all the while claiming how non-racist they are. People who have made a habit of calling others racist on message boards, often incorrectly and melting down in the process, try to excuse both. Welcome to year 1 of the era of Trump. rudatron fucked around with this message at 03:55 on Jun 15, 2017 |
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LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:Honestly I think this has been going on for so many pages you're just slapping each other and no one knows what the gently caress is going on anymore. It's pretty obvious what's going on. What's going on is that most Bernie voters are unable to think in their own terms, and can only approximate thinking by reposting articles.
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VitalSigns posted:The prison system was the means by which black people were reenslaved and put to work on the same slave plantations from which they had been recently liberated. so I get that you just read michelle alexander's the new jim crow and are trying to score woke points but perhaps you should read up on the atrocities of the american system of chattel slavery or hell, reread the new jim crow and compare the two
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LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:Honestly I think this has been going on for so many pages you're just slapping each other and no one knows what the gently caress is going on anymore. I liked it when this thread was posting cool articles on dem politics I might have missed. But those 2 keep doing this routine of theirs, and the mods do nothing.
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stone cold posted:so I get that you just read michelle alexander's the new jim crow and are trying to score woke points but perhaps you should read up on the atrocities of the american system of chattel slavery or hell, reread the new jim crow and compare the two Oh is that it? I didn't recognize it because Michelle Alexander didn't say that chattel slavery, Jim Crow, and the American prison system were identical, so I guess that's the major bernout contribution to studies of race- that the three are all identical, nothing matters, etc.
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rudatron posted:Its a little worse than that. People like b5 and stone cold only ever post here to do exactly what they're doing right now - its an intentional tactic on thier part to shut down the conversation. Learn how to use an RSS feed.
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rudatron posted:Its a little worse than that. People like b5 and stone cold only ever post here to do exactly what they're doing right now - its an intentional tactic on thier part to shut down the conversation. intentional tactic....like defining words that you don't get whooops
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Brainiac Five posted:No, I didn't, you shitbag. But I enjoy reading your posts in the troglodyte grunting that the Afrikaans accent produces in English. Brainiac Five posted:Anyways, I guess there's nothing wrong, to you, to believe people are property, since forced labor that treats people as property and forced labor that doesn't are equal in your eyes. stone cold posted:so I get that you just read michelle alexander's the new jim crow and are trying to score woke points but perhaps you should read up on the atrocities of the american system of chattel slavery or hell, reread the new jim crow and compare the two The forced labor system America created after emancipation was deliberately formulated to approximate, as closely they could get away with, the former condition of African Americans. The fact that they did not entirely succeed, while being a material factor ever so slightly in favor of the former slaves, is not a moral factor in favor of that system's creators, administrators, or defenders.
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Gosh, if only the stellar conversation of hyperventilating about random tweets and creeping towards suicidal ideation, punctuated by posts about guillotining bankers, who are the only members of the bourgeoisie, wasn't interrupted by people daring to dissent from the thread consensus.
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VitalSigns posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNJVMJH5OhI hey hey get this, maybe the people pointing out that you're glossing over the atrocities of chattel slavery and trying to actually teach you things about how in modern human slavery and trafficking there is a different thing, also bad going on also don't like slavery, in all its forms whoaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh
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Brainiac Five posted:Frankly, the ANC should have exterminated the white population of South Africa from this Earth. Neill Blomkamp and Die Antwoord and Sharlto Copley are small prices to pay against the criminality that has ensued from letting them live. The Traitor Steve Nash shall burn at the stake for his sins in committing apartheid against the True People of South Africa and also for failing to defeat the wicked San Antonio Spurs and deliver the birthright NBA Championship to the Blessed people of Phoenix.
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VitalSigns posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNJVMJH5OhI Who ever said the American prison system was good? But I like you defending the disgusting verbal glop your deformed embrasure produces. Anyways, now that you've gotten down to reading more than the cover blurb for The New Jim Crow, maybe you could retract some of the stuff you said earlier and I'll apologize for blowing up at you and things can pretend to be a conversation between two people instead of a cowardly little Boer gently caress spitting on someone from the safety of a balcony. stone cold posted:hey Actually if you disagree with a Bernie voter you're legally obligated to join the Ku Klux Klan, it's ordained by God.
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Brainiac Five posted:The argument on display here is that there's nothing wrong with treating people as objects, as things. Because that is a major distinction between chattel slavery and prison labor and yet the two are claimed to be identical. Which post were they claimed to be identical in, I only recall ever seeing a claim of direct descent from chattel slavery.
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reignonyourparade posted:Which post were they claimed to be identical in, I only recall ever seeing a claim of direct descent from chattel slavery. Oh, you're gonna play this game, then. gently caress you. Either you're disingenuous or you're really loving stupid, and in either case you should gently caress off.
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Brainiac Five posted:Who ever said the American prison system was good? But I like you defending the disgusting verbal glop your deformed embrasure produces. Anyways, now that you've gotten down to reading more than the cover blurb for The New Jim Crow, maybe you could retract some of the stuff you said earlier and I'll apologize for blowing up at you and things can pretend to be a conversation between two people instead of a cowardly little Boer gently caress spitting on someone from the safety of a balcony. I'm sorry I called you Brainworms earlier, that was bad to do and wasn't conducive to debate and/or discussion. stone cold posted:hey I never said that human trafficking isn't going on or that it isn't bad. It was brought up as a whataboutist distraction when I criticized forced prison labor and a politician who told a heartwarming little story about how she learned to love having black slaves to mop the floors.
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VitalSigns posted:I'm sorry I called you Brainworms earlier, that was bad to do and wasn't conducive to debate and/or discussion. No, it wasn't brought up until stone cold did so, because she wanted to make a point about how your arguments over all forms of forced labor being the same are offensive, or extremely naive at best. Unless someone did a while back, which it would be strange to focus on.
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Brainiac Five posted:It's pretty obvious what's going on. What's going on is that most Bernie voters are unable to think in their own terms, and can only approximate thinking by reposting articles. Mmmm no. What's obvious to someone who isn't involved in this intense conversation is it's just people furiously posting because they're in too deep and they can't back out now. It's essentially public masturbation and you're staring into each others' eyes daring the other to finish first.
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LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:Mmmm no. What's obvious to someone who isn't involved in this intense conversation is it's just people furiously posting because they're in too deep and they can't back out now. It's essentially public masturbation and you're staring into each others' eyes daring the other to finish first. What's obvious to me is that you've developed the stage of irony poisoning where you sincerely believe that nothing really matters. You should probably moderate your intake so you back out of the "living in Bohemian Rhapsody" phase and back down to more sustainable levels. EugeneJ posted:400 new posts what happ...oh gently caress off, Nazi.
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Brainiac Five posted:What's obvious to me is that you've developed the stage of irony poisoning where you sincerely believe that nothing really matters. You should probably moderate your intake so you back out of the "living in Bohemian Rhapsody" phase and back down to more sustainable levels. Lots of things matter. Nothing that happened in this thread in the last 5 pages does. Normally it'd be a 5/10, but I think you get a 7/10 for keeping it up so long.
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^^Yeah I have to tip my hat to B5 for the sheer quantity of trolling he pulls off. The man's a shitposting machine that neither works nor stops to sleep.  rudatron posted:Welcome to year 1 of the era of Trump. Only seven more to go! 
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rudatron posted:Its a little worse than that. People like b5 and stone cold only ever post here to do exactly what they're doing right now - its an intentional tactic on their part to shut down the conversation.
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Brainiac Five posted:No, it wasn't brought up until stone cold did so, because she wanted to make a point about how your arguments over all forms of forced labor being the same are offensive, or extremely naive at best. Unless someone did a while back, which it would be strange to focus on. The whataboutism began immediately with "whatabout FDR" but I'm glad we can agree that it is irrelevant, and we can criticize modern prison slavery that persists in the mold of antebellum plantation slavery and criticize its proponents without waffling on the issue with "but other politicians have done worse" and "but it's not quite the same as chattel slavery in every detail" and "but prison slaves really do have low emotional intelligence, probably" and other distractions by party loyalists that just cynically muddy the waters around an abhorrent institution that too many Democratic politicians are still sadly mute on or tepidly in favor of.
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LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:Normally it'd be a 5/10, but I think you get a 7/10 for keeping it up so long. D&D - the only place where B5 can keep it up
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EugeneJ posted:D&D - the only place where B5 can keep it up  But seriously, folks, I get the impression that not everyone here understands that B5/Effectronica is trolling. Because he is.
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Majorian posted:But seriously, folks, I get the impression that not everyone here understands that B5/Effectronica is trolling. Because he is. Maybe but in this case his repurposed right-wing talking points arguments are identical to those that conservative Democrats JC and stone cold were making in earnest*, and they were backing him up so if it is trolling it is indistinguishable from what clintonistas actually believe. *well maybe, who knows with them, going so far down the rabbit hole of devotion to the status quo they're channeling Sean Hannity could be a brilliant piece of performance art, but it's also entirely in character for liberals so 
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Augustus Octavius owned slaves, so why shouldn't a democratically elected official in 1980s? I don't see the difference.Majorian posted:
Like, at some point even a troll has invested so much time into spewing bullshit that he becomes essentially sincere. It's impossible to spend so much time and effort on something without becoming the thing you are pretending to be. And I'm convinced he's "trolling" only insomuch that he's willing to pretend to roll with the punches and throw around insults when cornered, the core of his posting seems mighty sincere, and you can see he literally starts posting the second his probations run out with full steam of rage already built up and talking points already prepared. steinrokkan fucked around with this message at 07:23 on Jun 15, 2017 |
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I'd be more sympathetic to the argument that Eff is just a master troll, if he didn't so often end up blowing up himself. I don't think there is a single post of his in this thread that isn't the same, hyper-ventilating paranoid neuroticism that makes attempts at communication a non-starter. Like let's get real here: this thread gets periodically closed from getting poo poo up, but it's not the thread itself that's bad. It's one guy - one loving guy - and maybe a couple of other sycophants, pulling the same poo poo again and again. Latching onto a turn of phrase, or jumping to really absurd conclusions, screeching about their own victimization while making repeated threats of violence against other posters, etc. It's not anything special, it's not masterclass trolling, it's standard absuvie behavior - behavior that by anyone else, might I add, would result in permabans. Yet whenever mods intervene, it's with a probation, oh but also they probate the poor schmuck Effectronica drags down with them.
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rudatron posted:I'd be more sympathetic to the argument that Eff is just a master troll, if he didn't so often end up blowing up himself. take your whining elsewhere. the issue is being handled and i have given you a helpful hint in the quoted text above
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Brainiac Five posting about the movie Logan posted:Okay, so we're back to you being ashamed about your belief that violence is inherently glamorous, but not enough to actually keep quiet about it. I guess those erections must be awkward when you're watching Terror Train or The Burning or whatever.
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Trabisnikof posted:Imagine being so bad at campaigning that your entire campaign forgot to read your opponent's book where they admitted to owning slaves.
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twodot posted:This is frankly the weirdest part to me. I get why Trump can't directly attack Clinton on this, but surely some Trump supporters out there were smart enough to read the book and run a false flag attack from the left on Clinton? How am I just reading this post-election? Also "super predators"
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Rent-A-Cop posted:Nobody who voted for Clinton was going to be turned off by the stunning revelation that a rich old white lady from Arkansas was racist
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Brainiac Five posted:(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) Thanks R. Guyovich and FactsAreUseless, you are great!
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twodot posted:This is frankly the weirdest part to me. I get why Trump can't directly attack Clinton on this, but surely some Trump supporters out there were smart enough to read the book and run a false flag attack from the left on Clinton? How am I just reading this post-election? Bernie's campaign apparently didn't spot it either. Balls dropped all around.
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