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I actually agree with eames here, someone should start a bitcoin thread so we don't torture a formerly GPU-tech-focused thread with buttcoin tech support/theory.
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Paul MaudDib posted:Yep, I'm a walking loving billboard for Microcenter because I love talking tech stuff. Being able to drive to a computer store and buy what you need and put the PC together right then at non-extortionary prices is p. amazing. On this note: I returned my Z170 motherboard that wouldn't boot my 7100 even after BIOS flash. The CPU installation went perfectly so apparently I bent one single pin getting it out of the socket and didn't notice till I got to the store (gently caress  ). Microcenter took it back and exchanged it for a NIB Z270 board with a note on my receipt not to exchange it again. I actually felt terrible about this even with how much I frequent them, it was 100% my fault.
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Truga posted:I imagine a good percentage of the buttcoin community is drug dealers and money launderers, but you can say that about literally any currency. Just don't use shady regulation evading exchanges and you'll be fine. Bitstamp has been really good to me even when I cashed out my big bitcoin mining haul.
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Jun 15, 2017 04:03
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sausage king of Chicago posted:So if you were to build a mining rig, the best GPU for that is RX 580? But, those are what everyone is snatching up, so there price is skyrocketing and they aren't in stock anywhere? Is that right? 1060s and 1070s are fine too. As are 290s/390s, which is why a 5 year old GPU design is reselling for pretty drat close to their prices new.
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Jun 15, 2017 04:05
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Paul MaudDib posted:I actually agree with eames here, someone should start a bitcoin thread so we don't torture a formerly GPU-tech-focused thread with buttcoin tech support/theory. As long as it stays out of GBS, those threads were...interesting.
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Jun 15, 2017 04:06
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Paul MaudDib posted:I actually agree with eames here, someone should start a bitcoin thread so we don't torture a formerly GPU-tech-focused thread with buttcoin tech support/theory. I agree but only for discussion of the practical side of things. How to set up a rig, what coin/pool is currently best to mine. Not its value as a currency or as an investment. Everyone should agree to point and laugh at the guy who "invests" 10k on a setup that needs to mine for 100 days straight before it breaks even assuming the value doesnt go down.
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Fauxtool posted:I agree but only for discussion of the practical side of things. How to set up a rig, what coin/pool is currently best to mine. Not its value as a currency or as an investment. Everyone should agree to point and laugh at the guy who "invests" 10k on a setup that needs to mine for 100 days straight before it breaks even assuming the value doesnt go down. Agreed. For me it's nothing more than a "I've got all this hardware anyways and my power is cheap, might as well pay my rent with it."
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Jun 15, 2017 04:22
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If you get a card people are buying up you would be better to resell the loving card and buy the alt coin of your dreams with the profits than to mine them.
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Kazinsal posted:Agreed. For me it's nothing more than a "I've got all this hardware anyways and my power is cheap, might as well pay my rent with it."
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Jun 15, 2017 04:41
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:late stage gpu enthusiast syndrome: using your gpus to sell buttmining hours because you realize you never actually play games with them Hello, mirror of truth.
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MaxxBot posted:One interesting quirk with the mining is that some of the algorithms run faster on the GTX 1070 than they do on the 1080 because the latency characteristics of GDDR5 suit them better than those of GDDR5X. I'd like a better explanation of why that is the case. Noob question: How much vram does mining actually use? (Is more better?)
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:late stage gpu enthusiast syndrome: using your gpus to sell buttmining hours because you realize you never actually play games with them This hurts because it's true 😭
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Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:This hurts because it's true 😭 Guilty as charged.
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:late stage gpu enthusiast syndrome: using your gpus to sell buttmining hours because you realize you never actually play games with them 1080 Ti in a designer ITX case to have chrome open with 4 tabs and light pushbullet use. I should seriously just buy a laptop.
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Jun 15, 2017 05:42
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I went 34-inch ultrawide mostly to maximize how many chrome tabs I could have open and still see the favicons.
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Paul MaudDib posted:As someone whose master's thesis was a GPGPU program, it's probably that the algorithm was hand-tuned at the bottom of the loop with C or assembly that produces optimal access patterns on GDDR5. It's perfectly timed (potentially using Undefined Behavior like not using warp-level syncs) so that your read comes in just as you need it, and GDDR5X triggers a slightly different routine in the microcode that has very subtly different timing (remember: unlike GDDR5 it's quad-pumped per clock), and because the memory access is blocking the scheduler is suddenly sleeping the warp and resuming something else in. This screws up the meticulously hand-timed code, because unfortunately Undefined Behavior is often the best way to extract the last bit of performance from in GPGPU. Thanks for the explanation, I'm a newly unemployed electrical engineer and I really ought to bridge the gap between my trade and my hobby by doing some GPU programming. Do you have any recommendations for good resources? I have a ton of experience with C but no GPU programming experience.
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I'll start working on the OP for a cryptocurrency thread.
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How many hours a week do ya'll average gaming on your nice high-end GPUs? I do about 4 on a 1080. I think I'm having a crisis.
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MaxxBot posted:Thanks for the explanation, I'm a newly unemployed electrical engineer and I really ought to bridge the gap between my trade and my hobby by doing some GPU programming. Do you have any recommendations for good resources? I have a ton of experience with C but no GPU programming experience. Dr Dobbs CUDA tutorials, and reading through and self-coding the NVIDIA samples in the toolkit with peeks at the solution when you get stuck. edit: I guess Dr Dobbs has gone paywall now. The Thrust Quick-start manual, which lets you very quickly and easily set up these tests/spikes in a familiar C++ fashion. You can freely intermix raw C (eg array "raw" pointers) or native __device__ functions, and C++-style vector or functor objects - they all work interchangeably for the most part. I have glued these libraries together with CUB (CUDA UnBound) and Random123 effectively in the past, sometimes the default implementation isn't quite the right one. There is not a super good resource for this other than the CUDA toolkit docs, the samples, etc. I've been meaning to write "babby's first GPU program" for a while now. edit: Modern GPU Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 07:39 on Jun 15, 2017 |
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Shrimp or Shrimps posted:How many hours a week do ya'll average gaming on your nice high-end GPUs? Average 5-6 hours a week, mostly on sundays Twin 1080s Ti
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about 10 on a 1070. I think you game less the more it costs
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Can't justify super high end GPUs anymore. I bought a 6800GT in 2004 for $455 (plus $34 shipping) because I demanded the best experience from Doom 3, a game I anticipated for years and was geared to buy new hardware for. Then I hated Doom 3. Then years later I had to sell the card for a fraction of what it ought to be worth even though I was still satisfied with it, because it was AGP and PCIE suddenly ruled the land. An experience like that teaches lessons.
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Craptacular! posted:Can't justify super high end GPUs anymore. I bought a 6800GT in 2004 for $455 (plus $34 shipping) because I demanded the best experience from Doom 3, a game I anticipated for years and was geared to buy new hardware for. Too bad for your wrong opinions on Doom 3 
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CyberPingu posted:Too bad for your wrong opinions on Doom 3 I hear that game was dark, confirm/deny? I had a 5700 Ultra circa 2004, can't even remember the real name of it anymore. I'm thinking of pulling the trigger on a 1080 or 1080ti and bitlording on the side now since, hey, free money because nerds!
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its not free because you dont have the gpu already  If mining is a primary motivation to upgrade, you are well on your way to becoming an unironic bitlord.If coins keep paying out the way they are it might be the incentive to finally upgrade from my 2500k/1070 pc to a 7700k/1080ti with the a no display 1070 hooked up. I am just looking for excuses to upgrade and this is an almost plausible one. I have been adding into a "new PC" savings for the last 4 years now and the 2500k just refuses to be obsoleted Fauxtool fucked around with this message at 09:18 on Jun 15, 2017 |
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tehinternet posted:I hear that game was dark, confirm/deny? Doom 3 was very dark...but is still a great game. Its not a great "Doom" game. But its a great survival horror game.
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CyberPingu posted:Doom 3 was very dark...but is still a great game. Its not a great "Doom" game. But its a great survival horror game. I agree, if it hadn't come out when Half Life 2 came out it would have been better received. Sorry for dragging a 13 year old meme out.
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tehinternet posted:I agree, if it hadn't come out when Half Life 2 came out it would have been better received. Sorry for dragging a 13 year old meme out. Eh the "Cant see poo poo captain" is always funny to me
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Seamonster posted:Noob question: How much vram does mining actually use? (Is more better?) Most use in the kB or a few MB range, some will go into a couple hundred MB, because they're designed that way on purpose to avoid getting mined on cheap ASICs. You won't hit a limit. sausage king of Chicago posted:So if you were to build a mining rig, the best GPU for that is RX 580? But, those are what everyone is snatching up, so there price is skyrocketing and they aren't in stock anywhere? Is that right?  Mining is something you do because you already have the hardware. If you were to buy it now, for mining specifically, you'll probably never break even.
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Paul MaudDib posted:I actually agree with eames here, someone should start a bitcoin thread so we don't torture a formerly GPU-tech-focused thread with buttcoin tech support/theory. Please. Every morning I come here, excited by all the new posts hoping something cool and good happened, and it's all just wizard electron money. It makes me sad.
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Paul MaudDib posted:On this note: I returned my Z170 motherboard that wouldn't boot my 7100 even after BIOS flash. The CPU installation went perfectly so apparently I bent one single pin getting it out of the socket and didn't notice till I got to the store (gently caress Just one pin should be fixable, just bend it back.
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CyberPingu posted:Too bad for your wrong opinions on Doom 3 And now, in 2017, Doom 3 is one of the coolest games you can play in VR.
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Enos Cabell posted:And now, in 2017, Doom 3 is one of the coolest games you can play in VR. What a time to be alive
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Found my first ever GPU in a closet today, I was around 10 years old at the time. 3 million transistors, 350nm, 4MB VRAM, 1.6 GB/s memory bandwidth.  Do you guys think it's safe to just plug this into a legacy PCI slot to see if it still works? Maybe I can pass it through to a Windows 98 VM for science.
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Shrimp or Shrimps posted:How many hours a week do ya'll average gaming on your nice high-end GPUs? 20+, or too many. That number is maintained by Witcher 3 being a massive time sink, playing badly in both an ESEA and CEVO league for Counter Strike, and having a childless relationship with a PC gaming woman.
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metallicaeg posted:20+, or too many. That number is maintained by Witcher 3 being a massive time sink, playing badly in both an ESEA and CEVO league for Counter Strike, and having a childless relationship with a PC gaming woman. Relationship time is good time. Don't apologize for it.
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xthetenth posted:Relationship time is good time. Don't apologize for it. She's an Overwatch player though 
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metallicaeg posted:She's an Overwatch player though My condolences. Edit: To talk about gaming hours again, I also happen to be in a childless relationship and am also my own boss, so double-whammy on the free-time scale, but when I get back home after work, I find these days I'm just not bothered to play games. Like, I fire up a game, sit in the menu for a while, and then just quit. Or I load my save, walk 10 meters in game, then quit. I have literally spent more time watching Let's Plays of Aliens: Colonial Marines this month than I have playing actual games. Maybe that's just the appeal of schadenfreude and watching some lispy twenty year old nerd *who plays PC shooters with a bloody loving controller* discover just how lovely that game is for the first time.** What happened, oh sweet gaming spirit? When did you abandon me? Is this what getting old is like? **And who probably makes more money than me playing lovely games on loving Youtube what in the actual gently caress I swear I am now seriously having a crisis quote:What is this? My first card was a Voodoooo3D Mine was an ATI Rage 128. Shrimp or Shrimps fucked around with this message at 16:14 on Jun 15, 2017 |
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metallicaeg posted:She's an Overwatch player though Sever eames posted:Found my first ever GPU in a closet today, I was around 10 years old at the time. 3 million transistors, 350nm, 4MB VRAM, 1.6 GB/s memory bandwidth. What is this? My first card was a Voodoooo3D 
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