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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/15/tory-election-research-found-boris-johnson-was-deeply-divisive

quote:

Internal Conservative research used to road-test different cabinet ministers to decide how to deploy them in the general election campaign found that Boris Johnson was deeply divisive, the Guardian has been told.

The suggestion was that Johnson – who has previously been seen as a strong election asset by many Tory MPs because of his popularity and success in twice winning the mayoralty in London – had developed a “polarising” effect since the EU referendum.

A lot of anger appeared to be linked to the claim of Vote Leave, for which he was the most high-profile supporter, that Brexit would deliver £350m more to the NHS every week.

Boris is hosed lol

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Living Image
Apr 24, 2010

HORSE'S ASS


How has she survived as a politician for this long? Half the time it's like someone forgot to charge her batteries.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Corrode posted:

How has she survived as a politician for this long? Half the time it's like someone forgot to charge her batteries.

She won the leadership election by standing still while the others circular-pantsing-squadded each other and then relied on the media providing a potemkin competency narrative around her bumblefuckery. The election brought scrutiny and with that the mask has slipped.

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


learnincurve posted:

"You know that time all the Doctor's enemies descended on that planet because they wanted him to say his name and blast apart Gallifrey, but the space church wouldn't let them land so they kept on sending down stuff like wooden Cybermen to sneak past them?

[Clearly I do.]

May is like if they had all got together and made a vulture robot."


I have literally no argument against this theory.

The current season has had a racist Victorian toff feeding orphans to a monster, and workers in deep space being zombified because their capitalist bosses literally charge them for the air they breathe. They survive because the Doctor makes their deaths more expensive than keeping them alive, then he teleports them to the head office to crush capitalism in a violent revolution.

It's been a solid season this year.

SkySteak
Sep 9, 2010
My only concern about a hypothetical election is what if Tories elect someone who is at least seemingly human? Jokes about Tories aside, I do wonder if it's more May that is doing damage to the Conservative Party than their own policies themselves. I mean I know the manifesto was a very strange move but with a new leader, wouldn't the Tories be in a far better position to take on a new electino?

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

Bite my furry metal ass

communism bitch posted:

You shouldn't imagine from this that there is a constant presence of elite tier one delta force SAS operatoooorrrrrssss on the streets of random cities at all times just waiting for the poo poo to pop.
When there's active surveillance of specific groups or individuals ongoing they sometimes have squaddies disguised as homeless people. It's been a thing for years and years and years because they can loiter in the streets with all kinds of bags full of god knows what and nobody pays any attention.

One wonders what would happen if someone were to find them suspicious and call the police.

I mean probably nothing, but I'm having a fun time imaging the potential black comedy of errors. "Terrorists disguised as homeless people engaged on firefight with police also disguised as homeless, oh wait they were all coppers whoops"

Gum
Mar 9, 2008

oho, a rapist
time to try this puppy out

2016 will be retrospectively seen as being a key move in God's master plan to bring about the global socialist utopia

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh

SkySteak posted:

My only concern about a hypothetical election is what if Tories elect someone who is at least seemingly human? Jokes about Tories aside, I do wonder if it's more May that is doing damage to the Conservative Party than their own policies themselves. I mean I know the manifesto was a very strange move but with a new leader, wouldn't the Tories be in a far better position to take on a new electino?

Don't fret, We are watching the history of the last days of thatcher repeat itself, only with shitter versions than last time.

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


SkySteak posted:

My only concern about a hypothetical election is what if Tories elect someone who is at least seemingly human? Jokes about Tories aside, I do wonder if it's more May that is doing damage to the Conservative Party than their own policies themselves. I mean I know the manifesto was a very strange move but with a new leader, wouldn't the Tories be in a far better position to take on a new electino?

A tory Corbyn would be the biggest concern. I.e. a principled small c conservative who doesn't think Keynes is black magic communism.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

https://twitter.com/KSUWABE/status/875254609995943936


BUCKETS-HEADO

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

SkySteak posted:

My only concern about a hypothetical election is what if Tories elect someone who is at least seemingly human? Jokes about Tories aside, I do wonder if it's more May that is doing damage to the Conservative Party than their own policies themselves. I mean I know the manifesto was a very strange move but with a new leader, wouldn't the Tories be in a far better position to take on a new electino?

Yes, but who? They really don't have anybody like that.

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

learnincurve posted:

Don't fret, We are watching the history of the last days of thatcher repeat itself, only with shitter versions than last time.

the thing about making sure that there's nobody who can take over as leader after you is when you stop being leader it turns out there's nobody who can take over after you, let's all never learn from this and just have both parties take turns at being useless messes for a decade or so at a time

dispatch_async
Nov 28, 2014

Imagine having the time to have played through 20 generations of one family in The Sims 2. Imagine making the original two members of that family Neil Buchanan and Cat Deeley. Imagine complaining to Maxis there was no technological progression. You've successfully imagined my life
Looks like some spivs have been rumbled:

U.K. Statistics Body to End Government Prerelease Access

quote:

Britain’s statistics body said it would stop giving the U.K. government access to official data ahead of public release, a practice that statisticians had long complained increased the chances of leaks.

“Prerelease access to [official] statistics is outweighed by the detriment to public trust in those statistics,” said John Pullinger, the head of the U.K. Statistics Authority.

The move follows reports by The Wall Street Journal which showed that some investors could be trading with knowledge of U.K. economic statistics before they are published.

The British pound and government bond futures moved in a way that was consistent with traders being informed of the strength or weakness of economic statistics before its publication, according to analysis for the Journal.

Statisticians have long pointed to what they say is Britain’s unusual practice in the handling of market-moving data: More than 100 people, from Prime Minister Theresa May to dozens of policy advisers and press officers, can get to see some of the figures a day before they come out. In the U.S., the president and the chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers receive sensitive data such as gross domestic product a day in advance. In several European countries, there is no prerelease access at all.

An Office for National Statistics spokesman said that a very limited number of officials at the Bank of England would still be granted prerelease access when an economic data release coincided with a BOE interest-rate decision.

Alongside economic statistics, politically sensitive data on migration and crime will also no longer be given to the government ahead of time.

Fans
Jun 27, 2013

A reptile dysfunction

Hello new Avatar.

Party Boat
Nov 1, 2007

where did that other dog come from

who is he


There was some polling a few days ago that showed Rudd, Gove, Davis, Boris etc all making people less likely to vote tory

Junior G-man
Sep 15, 2004

Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma


nopantsjack posted:

A tory Corbyn would be the biggest concern. I.e. a principled small c conservative who doesn't think Keynes is black magic communism.

Those get killed off at the council level. Plus, the Tory party is so heavily dependent on individual very heavy donors that any such candidate would probably struggle to get the funds in.

Also, I'm of the firm belief that donor should be written 'donour'.

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Junior G-man posted:

Those get killed off at the council level. Plus, the Tory party is so heavily dependent on individual very heavy donors that any such candidate would probably struggle to get the funds in.

Also, I'm of the firm belief that donor should be written 'donour'.

Yeah I don't think its likely I just think its the only real threat at the moment, some random backbencher, all the other candidates are extremely unpopular and require intense rehabilitation before they are ready for public consumption.

VideoGames
Aug 18, 2003


I love this man.

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem

VideoGames posted:



I love this man.

far far too good for this sin cursed earth

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

The new Dark Souls is looking pretty rad.

Cat Machine
Jun 18, 2008

VideoGames posted:



I love this man.
gently caress man this got me really hard, we have to do everything we can to make this man our prime minister

Gum
Mar 9, 2008

oho, a rapist
time to try this puppy out

Party Boat posted:

There was some polling a few days ago that showed Rudd, Gove, Davis, Boris etc all making people less likely to vote tory

Careful of those sorts of polls, they don't really tell you much about who would actually switch their vote

Firos
Apr 30, 2007

Staying abreast of the latest developments in jam communism



VideoGames posted:



I love this man.

This is genuinely moving.

Broken Cog
Dec 29, 2009

We're all friends here
I honestly don't understand why anyone would vote Tory at this point.

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

Gum posted:

Careful of those sorts of polls, they don't really tell you much about who would actually switch their vote

I imagine most of the public barely knows who these people are as well, if they were actually front and centre in a campaign more people would actually form any sort of opinion on them. see also: Theresa May

e: except bozza legend ofc but even then who knows

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

learnincurve posted:

Don't fret, We are watching the history of the last days of thatcher repeat itself, only with shitter versions than last time.

The last days of Thatcher gave us five years of John Major so uh hopefully not hey?

Chinese Gordon
Oct 22, 2008

nopantsjack posted:

A tory Corbyn would be the biggest concern. I.e. a principled small c conservative who doesn't think Keynes is black magic communism.

Good job that person doesn't exist.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

SkySteak posted:

My only concern about a hypothetical election is what if Tories elect someone who is at least seemingly human? Jokes about Tories aside, I do wonder if it's more May that is doing damage to the Conservative Party than their own policies themselves. I mean I know the manifesto was a very strange move but with a new leader, wouldn't the Tories be in a far better position to take on a new electino?

OK, who? You need to reconcile a human face with a fundamentally inhuman platform, and that's being shown to be increasingly difficult - you either get repulsive ghouls, or nice, relatable people trying and failing to deal with the fact that they answer to the repulsive ghouls.

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

learnincurve posted:

Don't fret, We are watching the history of the last days of thatcher repeat itself, only with shitter versions than last time.

Thatcher's successor won the next election for the Tories.

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo

Verizian posted:

Autistic people are associated with extra chromosomes and some claim may be a further evolutionary step.

You're a loving idiot

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Chinese Gordon posted:

Good job that person doesn't exist.

Could you imagine it, though, a top-hat and monocle wearing motherfucker doing grassroots rallies going "YAH, WE'RE GOING TO STARVE THOSE OIKS, WOT WOT!" to rahs and boos from the crowd.

Forgall
Oct 16, 2012

by Azathoth

Broken Cog posted:

I honestly don't understand why anyone would vote Tory at this point.

Trickjaw posted:

I was walking past two thumb heads talking yesterday. One said 'Did you see that tower burn down' the other 9nd ' yeah but it don't matter, they were all coons and muzzies' ugh.
That's why.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

You're a loving idiot

The entire post is ironic pseudoscience, so I think that's the joke.

Living Image
Apr 24, 2010

HORSE'S ASS

VideoGames posted:



I love this man.

Predicted Sun headline: Pervy Corbyn gropes grieving Grenfell lovely

Saint Isaias Boner
Jan 17, 2007

hi how are you

Cat Machine posted:

gently caress man this got me really hard, we have to do everything we can to make this man our prime minister

what we're not doing phrasing anymore?

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Forgall posted:

That's why.

I'm guessing they voted for the kips, meself.

Feinne
Oct 9, 2007

When you fall, get right back up again.

Tesseraction posted:

Could you imagine it, though, a top-hat and monocle wearing motherfucker doing grassroots rallies going "YAH, WE'RE GOING TO STARVE THOSE OIKS, WOT WOT!" to rahs and boos from the crowd.

Seeing them talking to him on the election coverage over here in the states I assumed that actually WAS how that Rees-Mogg guy campaigns.

Chinese Gordon
Oct 22, 2008

Tesseraction posted:

Could you imagine it, though, a top-hat and monocle wearing motherfucker doing grassroots rallies going "YAH, WE'RE GOING TO STARVE THOSE OIKS, WOT WOT!" to rahs and boos from the crowd.

I think this Tory Corbyn would have to say "YAH, WE'RE NOT GOING TO STARVE THOSE OIKS, WOT WOT!" and would therefore be unacceptable to MPs, let alone the membership.

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall

Feinne posted:

Seeing them talking to him on the election coverage over here in the states I assumed that actually WAS how that Rees-Mogg guy campaigns.

Rees-Mogg is a throwback and even the tories think he's weird.

He's around my city a fair bit and recently posted that he wouldnt let his fam use a tattoo shop with a vote labour sign out of it

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WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


"هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

Chinese Gordon posted:

I think this Tory Corbyn would have to say "YAH, WE'RE NOT GOING TO STARVE THOSE OIKS, WOT WOT!" and would therefore be unacceptable to MPs, let alone the membership.

So this Tory Corbyn is left of the 2015/16 PLP?

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