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Binary Badger posted:What's wrong with this image? During TOS women were deemed unfit for command. Also, no one is smiling.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Watching Samaritan Snare. Geordi's apprentice from the last episode is back. Was she added because they wanted a noob who wasn't the reviled Wesley? That's Lycia Naff, sci-fi legend (the three-boobed hooker from Total Recall). Gomez was intended to be a love interest for Geordi but the writers room was still in chaos at that point so they wrote her in as comic relief and then realised that they'd hosed it up. That Pakled episode is horrific. I'm surprised they didn't just come out and call that race the R'tards.
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The Pakleds also appear in that Klingon interactive movie, Gowron has to interrogate one. Riker comes off very badly in this episode. I would go so far as to agree with Jellico that he is a bad first officer and doesn't deserve a command of his own, going by his showings in the series. I also heartily recommend the SF Debris review of Samaritan Snare. Sad King Billy fucked around with this message at 17:25 on Jun 15, 2017 |
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Sad King Billy posted:I also heartily recommend the SF Debris review of Samaritan Snare. Dude is like the only video person not on YouTube, which is annoying. BTW, here is the direct link to that ep if anyone is interested - http://sfdebris.com/videos/startrek/t143.php
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Arglebargle III posted:So when is Discovery being canceled again? Due to temporal shenanigans, it's already canceled.
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WampaLord posted:Dude is like the only video person not on YouTube, which is annoying.
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turn left hillary!! noo posted:Due to temporal shenanigans, it's already canceled. It's already been cancelled. It was cancelled the day before it was conceived. It can not have been otherwise.
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"Sir, please do not give our shield frequencies to the Romulan warbird. I am begging you." "Come now, Mr Worf. Where would we be if we systematically gave into our paranoia at every opportunity?" "They are requesting that we disarm our photon torpedoes and jettison them out an airlock. I'm setting the ship to red alert." "Do as they say, I want to see where...diplomacy will take us." "They are powering up their weapons. Sending a distress signal." "Belay that. Mr Worf you are relieved of your duties and confined to your quarters until further notice."
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Sad King Billy posted:The Pakleds also appear in that Klingon interactive movie, Gowron has to interrogate one. That's taking it a step too far, in my opinion. It'd be like saying that Kirk doesn't deserve a command of his own due to his error in judgment during the first Enterprise/Reliant engagement. Riker made a huge mistake, but mistakes happen. He's entitled to them.
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vermin posted:"Sir, please do not give our shield frequencies to the Romulan warbird. I am begging you." I always liked that literally the first time Worf gets to shoot at things with the Defiant he and Sisko go from "Target their engines" or whatever bullshit they usually do to "Okay, just do whatever you want" over the course of something like 10 seconds. Of course Worf immediately takes this to mean "Blow them right the gently caress up" because as long as you aren't directly killing civilians The Sisko don't care.
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:That's taking it a step too far, in my opinion. It'd be like saying that Kirk doesn't deserve a command of his own due to his error in judgment during the first Enterprise/Reliant engagement. I did say through the course of the series, of the top of my head I can think of 4 other occasions. 1 Being defeated and boarded by the Ferengi in Rascals. 2. Falling for the hermaphrodite and trying to remove hir from hir world 3. Being unprofessional with Jellico. 4. Piss poor performance against the Duras sisters, yes I know they had their shield frequency but as soon as that happenef, Riker should have swatted them. I have to admit though he did get more likable once he grew the beard, he was smug and arrogant beforehand.
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Sad King Billy posted:I have to admit though he did get more likable once he grew the beard, he was smug and arrogant beforehand. Obligatory 
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Jellico was a terrible captain: a bad manager, a poor leader, and a dangerously reckless negotiator. He was also kind of a lovely person, who interprets advice as personal criticism, and can't stop himself from trying to bullshit a person he knows to literally have telepathic bullshit detection. But his decision to make Troi cover her tits on the bridge was correct.
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shadok posted:Jellico was a terrible captain: a bad manager, a poor leader, and a dangerously reckless negotiator. He was also kind of a lovely person, who interprets advice as personal criticism, and can't stop himself from trying to bullshit a person he knows to literally have telepathic bullshit detection. But his decision to make Troi cover her tits on the bridge was correct. Jellico is very polarising, I'm not as convinced as I once was that he is a great Captain, I'm not holding him up as the prime example of a Starfleet Captain but Riker could have dealt with him a lot better.
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Jellico was a good boss, but a bad leader.
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WampaLord posted:They are smart Are the Pakleds really that dumb, though? They managed to kidnap a starfleet officer and force him to upgrade their weaponry, and got away with it scot-free. They also managed to scam the shields off a Romulan ship. They're the greatest con artists in the galaxy.
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Tunicate posted:Are the Pakleds really that dumb, though? They managed to kidnap a starfleet officer and force him to upgrade their weaponry, and got away with it scot-free. They also managed to scam the shields off a Romulan ship. They're the greatest con artists in the galaxy. They are Donald Trumps. Complete idiots who are somehow able to scam people.
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They're perfectly intelligent, just don't have very well developed language and happen to look how chromosome problems look in a majority of species. They just look and sound retarded but are perfectly smart and capable. And they know how to milk it too.
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I'm posting this here: you know how Gene Roddenberry was a huge fan of 'secret history' where Spock assassinates JFK and Merlin was a space alien, etc? Well apparently the new transformers movie, (that I will never, ever see) has taken the idea and ran with it in a way that makes, say, Assassin's Creed seem downright restrained.
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Nebakenezzer posted:I'm posting this here: you know how Gene Roddenberry was a huge fan of 'secret history' where Spock assassinates JFK and Merlin was a space alien, etc? Well apparently the new transformers movie, (that I will never, ever see) has taken the idea and ran with it in a way that makes, say, Assassin's Creed seem downright restrained. Megatron was the gun used to kill JFK
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I'm so glad that I'm not the only one who feels that way about Jellico. He's a good guy personally, but I don't think he did enough to earn the trust and respect of his crew. Riker absolutely should have adapted to a change in command faster, but without much warning, Jellico just came in and started changing things. It's no wonder the crew was shaken by the sudden changes.
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Tunicate posted:Are the Pakleds really that dumb, though? They managed to kidnap a starfleet officer and force him to upgrade their weaponry, and got away with it scot-free. They also managed to scam the shields off a Romulan ship. They're the greatest con artists in the galaxy. That's just the writers making our heroes even dumber for this one episode. For gently caress's sake, Deanna is actually useful for once and they just ignore her.
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WampaLord posted:That's just the writers making our heroes even dumber for this one episode. For gently caress's sake, Deanna is actually useful for once and they just ignore her. Going by Data's dialogue, they're constantly forgetting who and what Troi is and need to be reminded.
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WampaLord posted:That's just the writers making our heroes even dumber for this one episode. For gently caress's sake, Deanna is actually useful for once and they just ignore her. Idk based on the sensor scans the Pakled scam worked on a bunch of other races. The last thread speculated on this Angry Salami posted:I love that when they scan the Pakled ship, it's got a bunch of different species' technology... including Romulan. Snak posted:It's possible that the Pakleds don't use the same approach with every one they scam. They probably heard the federation was super into helping people and working together. Pac-Manioc Root posted:"Hello friend Romulans. We found a message. It is from something called 'Starfleet Intelligence.' We want to read the message, so we can be intelligent, too. We can't read the message It is something called 'encrypted.' Can you help us read the message, so we can be intelligent?
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:I'm so glad that I'm not the only one who feels that way about Jellico. He's a good guy personally, but I don't think he did enough to earn the trust and respect of his crew. Riker absolutely should have adapted to a change in command faster, but without much warning, Jellico just came in and started changing things. It's no wonder the crew was shaken by the sudden changes. The Greatest Gen episodes on Chain of Command really kind of nail it with Jellico, I think. It seems like the writers maybe wanted him to seem like a no-nonsense dude who's just out of his element on the Enterprise, but the way it's written he's just kind of a doofus who's never really right about anything. Even his diplomatic tactics are bottom of the barrel douchebag power plays that just blow up in his face.
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If Jellico had been in an episode of TOS the script rightly would have made him appear unambiguously incompetent. As it is, I think the writers probably weren't going for that but he seems like a horrible leader who ends up being lucky rather than effective. At any rate, in the context of the Federation's ideals and Jellico's cover-up of Starfleet's illegal activities, Riker's insubordination seems more excusable.
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It's June 16th once again. You bastards all know what that means. 
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King Hong Kong posted:If Jellico had been in an episode of TOS the script rightly would have made him appear unambiguously incompetent. As it is, I think the writers probably weren't going for that but he seems like a horrible leader who ends up being lucky rather than effective. Yeah I think Jellico's incompetence isn't actually how his character was intended, it's just a consequence of the writers' inability to write competent officers as shown by the rest of the TNG cast in almost every TNG episode.
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Gonz posted:It's June 16th once again.  To celebrate, I've decided to watch "These Are the Voyages" instead of skipping it.  I thought I wanted to let it end on "Terra Prime," but I just can't let the last scene in Trek be an infant's death. So I'm going to watch an episode I already know is lovely. At least Cmdr. Shran is in it. 
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Gonz posted:It's June 16th once again. Number One, look at this. This doesn't look like me at all, these children are doing a terrible job. Are they challenged?
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Jun 16, 2017 15:09
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Orange and Lumpy give this kid a field commission
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vermin posted:Number One, look at this. This doesn't look like me at all, these children are doing a terrible job. Are they challenged? I don't know, I think the resemblance is rather striking.
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Captain Picard is a man who lives on the bridge of the Enterprise. He has fish and model spaceships in his bedroom, which is next to the bridge so whenever he wants to sleep he doesn't have far to go. Picard likes tea. He likes his tea to be hot. He also likes wine because he is French and French people like wine. One time Picard was stolen by the Borg, but he escaped and is ok now. I love you Captain Picard.
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The Bloop posted:Orange and Lumpy  Number One? Where are my hands and feet?
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Mister Kingdom posted:
In your sleevies. Wait, wrong joke.
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spincube posted:He has fish and model spaceships in his bedroom, which is next to the bridge so whenever he wants to sleep he doesn't have far to go. That's not Picard's bedroom, his bedroom is down on deck 9 where he keeps his books and his space flute, and where he takes his space ladies. Everybody knows that. 
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shadok posted:That's not Picard's bedroom, his bedroom is down on deck 9 where he keeps his books and his space flute, and where he takes his space ladies. Everybody knows that. Deck 9, huh? Right above 10 Forward? 
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