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JawKnee posted:what loving means of production lol seize the means of condo construction
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CI is the hero we deserve. A friend of mine from Miramichi posted this on Facebook, it was posted on the door of a doctor's office.
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Holy poo poo wow.
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Jun 15, 2017 20:19
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friends don't let friends go to miramichi
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Jun 15, 2017 20:20
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Jesus. A lot of downtown clinics and drugstores here will have policies like "no pain medications dispensed to first-time patients" and many don't stock various controlled/"risky" medications (just TRY and find original formula Sudafed! I loving dare you!) or something like that, but no one is dumb enough to put "gently caress off natives" in writing.
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Jun 15, 2017 20:22
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PT6A posted:Hmmm yeah, wouldn't want them to accidentally pick up any support from left-leaning moderates who are dissatisfied with Trudeau... full communism now! No one gives a gently caress about pipelines outside of Albertans and the Federal NDP is not picking up any moderate support in any riding there ever
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Jun 15, 2017 20:31
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DariusLikewise posted:No one gives a gently caress about pipelines outside of Albertans and the Federal NDP is not picking up any moderate support in any riding there ever Yeah you're right why should the party whose provincial affiliate won a majority in the provincial legislature even try?
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Jun 15, 2017 20:33
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Because the Provincial/Federal arms of the parties are completely separate?
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James Baud posted:That's completely untrue in the NDP. for the ANDP? I know there's some movement in the BCNDP, I was unaware of that being the case in the ANDP.
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Jun 15, 2017 20:37
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JawKnee posted:Because the Provincial/Federal arms of the parties are completely separate? Yes, and? The provincial NDP has proven that the NDP name is no longer a dealbreaker in Alberta, but what is is a pigheaded insistence on reneging on pipelines.
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PT6A posted:Yes, and? The provincial NDP has proven that the NDP name is no longer a dealbreaker in Alberta, but what is is a pigheaded insistence on reneging on pipelines. I'd be more confident of this if I thought the ANDP's victory was something they would repeat, rather than a populist lashing out against an insanely corrupt conservative government. We shall see, I suppose.
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PT6A posted:Yes, and? The provincial NDP has proven that the NDP name is no longer a dealbreaker in Alberta, but what is is a pigheaded insistence on reneging on pipelines. So the Federal NDP should begin supporting pipelines in an attempt to gain a share of the losing vote in Alberta at the expense of alienating their base everywhere else in the country?
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Jun 15, 2017 20:42
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PT6A posted:Yes, and? The provincial NDP has proven that the NDP name is no longer a dealbreaker in Alberta, but what is is a pigheaded insistence on reneging on pipelines. They would need to be on board with these stupid projects in the first place in order to renege.
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DariusLikewise posted:So the Federal NDP should begin supporting pipelines in an attempt to gain a share of the losing vote in Alberta at the expense of alienating their base everywhere else in the country? So pigheaded. Now let me tell you why this massive fossil fuel project will happen come hell or high water with no benefit to you, also we are proud of Canada's climate leadership
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THC posted:Oh also I forgot the other thing I wanted to bitch about is the federal NDP backed the Liberals' ill-fated Netflix tax proposal. They want to subsidize the Margaret Wentes and Barbara Kays rather than letting them die a natural death. Garbage. There is no 'Netflix tax'. It was a recommendation by a committee that was immediately shut down.
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At the very least the QCNDP is literally just a federal party because for the most part they've agreed to let Quebec solidaire be the main left wing party since the 00s, and I figure the ONDP does overlap a lot with the fed NDP. Also C16 passes.
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Jun 15, 2017 21:19
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C16 passed. I'll be calling the Human Rights Tribune SWAT Team on any of you who misgender me now.
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Just waiting on Royal Assent now.  https://twitter.com/kady/status/875443533880098816
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THC posted:So pigheaded. Now let me tell you why this massive fossil fuel project will happen come hell or high water with no benefit to you, also we are proud of Canada's climate leadership Anyone who is pro-pipeline cannot also claim to care about climate change. They're mutually exclusive positions.
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Jun 15, 2017 21:52
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Lain Iwakura posted:C16 passed. I'll be calling the Human Rights Tribune SWAT Team on any of you who misgender me now. Please list your (now legally required) preferred pronouns
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Jun 15, 2017 21:55
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infernal machines posted:Please list your (now legally required) preferred pronouns She Her Hers gently caress You
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Jun 15, 2017 22:42
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Falstaff posted:Anyone who is pro-pipeline cannot also claim to care about climate change. They're mutually exclusive positions. You can say the same thing about anti-nuclear people (and have a much better point) but I guess it's more fun to attack pipelines, eh?
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Jun 15, 2017 22:44
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So for the uninformed (me), does this mean that people can't be discriminated against based on sex OR gender now?
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Jun 15, 2017 22:49
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infernal machines posted:Please list your (now legally required) preferred pronouns Je Jambon Jorts Actually my sister (who's a psychologist) said she was in a meeting and someone decided that they should all declare their pronouns before the meeting began in order to be super inclusive and sensitive. I told her that was real dumb and backwards since you're forcing people to out themselves (or feel uncomfortable and lie to not feel embarrassed) and people should just treat everyone like humans and let things come up in conversation naturally like non-androids do but maybe I'm a horrible regressive person for thinking that. e: everyone was a cis white woman a primate fucked around with this message at 22:53 on Jun 15, 2017 |
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PT6A posted:You can say the same thing about anti-nuclear people (and have a much better point) but I guess it's more fun to attack pipelines, eh? Alberta's economy has nothing to do with nuclear power, though. Why would you attack anti-nuclear people when our economy is based on something that is incompatible with preventing or mitigating climate change?
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a primate posted:So for the uninformed (me), does this mean that people can't be discriminated against based on sex OR gender now? Yes.
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infernal machines posted:Please list your (now legally required) preferred pronouns Sim Sim Salabim
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Lain Iwakura posted:Yes. Cool, thanks 
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Jun 15, 2017 22:54
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Does this mean park loving is now legal
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a primate posted:So for the uninformed (me), does this mean that people can't be discriminated against based on sex OR gender now? It gives trans people the same protections as minority groups and people of all sexual orientations. All it means is now you cannot discriminate against someone for being trans, and it's an aggravating factor in criminal sentencing. (Basically beating up a person for being trans is now a hate crime instead of just assault) It's NBD, just means the government legally recognizes the existence of trans people as a distinct group. Yay equality! namaste faggots posted:Does this mean park loving is now legal Nah but don't let that stop you, big guy.
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namaste faggots posted:Does this mean park loving is now legal Try it and report back
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Lien posted:Alberta's economy has nothing to do with nuclear power, though. Why would you attack anti-nuclear people when our economy is based on something that is incompatible with preventing or mitigating climate change? Because not supporting nuclear power is also not compatible with preventing/mitigating climate change, and in fact providing a demand-side solution to lower demand for fossil fuels is going to be a gently caress sight more effective at combatting climate change than whinging about pipelines.
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PT6A posted:You can say the same thing about anti-nuclear people (and have a much better point) but I guess it's more fun to attack pipelines, eh? You know people can be pro-nuclear-power and anti-pipelines right? For example, I somehow manage to hold both those positions simultaneously without exploding due to cognitive dissonance. PT6A posted:Because not supporting nuclear power is also not compatible with preventing/mitigating climate change, and in fact providing a demand-side solution to lower demand for fossil fuels is going to be a gently caress sight more effective at combatting climate change than whinging about pipelines. Actually climate change is such a serious and severe issue that we need aggressive supply- and demand-side solutions to be implemented yesterday, and not building any more stupid pipelines is exactly the kind of thing we need to do if we want to not all die from climate change or climate-change-induced political crises.
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I mean, if you're gonna do new oil pipelines, at least stop pretending you're concerned about stopping climate change let alone calling yourself a climate leader
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vyelkin posted:You know people can be pro-nuclear-power and anti-pipelines right? For example, I somehow manage to hold both those positions simultaneously without exploding due to cognitive dissonance. Yes, I'm just saying I think pro-nuclear should be the focus of as much or more advocacy because it's currently suffering a bit of an image problem, it's going to require a fairly long time to actually create nuclear power generation capacity, and it's going to be more effective than just forcing fossil fuels to be shipped by truck or train instead of pipeline. But for some reason everyone wants to talk about pipelines all the time instead.
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I don't really see why anyone cares about Canada' contribution to climate change either way. To do anything meaningful about the issue would take such a huge effort by all the most powerful countries in the world that even considering it is utterly laughable, who cares about whether or not Canada looks good on this particular issue? Canada has like 35 million people in it, we don't affect the climate in any meaningful way. Also obviously PT6A is just bringing up nuclear power to distract from the obvious issue that this ridiculous pipeline fucks over everyone other than the 30 or so people who get temporary jobs out of it for no real gain other than a few rich people who paid for the politicians to support it. That's Liberal Party Politics 101, for god's sake.
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We are the second or third worst emitter per-capita and also one of the richest countries, and one of the countries telling everyone to do something about the climate. So yes it kind of does matter.
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