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| The Big3 Tourney |
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67 | 22.41% |
| Will Lakers draft Ball |
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40 | 13.38% |
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| Will LeBron jump ship to the Spurs or ?? |
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41 | 13.71% |
| Will every team in the league just pivot towards tanking |
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97 | 32.44% |
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Niwrad posted:Plenty of owners have paid for their own stadiums. Usually they are in cities that can support NBA teams through ups and downs. do you have a source for this cause i dont think its true. its certainly not in the nfl and almost all stadium deals im aware of use some amount of public funds
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Jun 16, 2017 00:17
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Niwrad posted:I think it's way more than that. Seattle should have a team. But after that, what other city would an owner really want to move their team to? Kansas City? Why would SA or Portland be safe from the threat of their team moving to a larger, wealthier metro with no team, of which there are 4-5 for each? Why would a team be averse to making a lateral move if the new city offered better terms? A team left Seattle (~3.5 million metro) for OKC (<1.5 million). If your city won't pay up, one or more of San Diego, St. Louis, Seattle, Tampa, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Las Vegas, Kansas City, Cincinatti, Austin etc will be willing to. And right now the good times are here and teams don't struggle in major metros. Not so very long ago in real world terms, Chicago and DC and Detroit all had teams fail and fold. Philly and Chicago also both had their teams relocate. Chicago drat near lost the Bulls in the late 60s when attendance dipped to like 1000 a game - and keep in mind the city's population was much HIGHER then (the metro was considerably smaller).
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Jun 16, 2017 00:28
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when is the game 6 gdt going up???
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Jun 16, 2017 00:35
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Ghost Dog posted:do you have a source for this cause i dont think its true. its certainly not in the nfl and almost all stadium deals im aware of use some amount of public funds Staples Center (LA), United Center (Chicago), MSG renovations (NY), Pepsi Center (Denver). The new Chase Center (GS) will be privately financed. The new Clippers arena will be privately financed. And Hansen has offered to pay for an arena in Seattle. There are a lot of dumb cities that gave in to owners when they didn't have to. Certain cities hold more power than they realize. The Celtics aren't moving to Pittsburgh because the city won't pay for their arena.
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Jun 16, 2017 00:50
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DeimosRising posted:Why would SA or Portland be safe from the threat of their team moving to a larger, wealthier metro with no team, of which there are 4-5 for each? Why would a team be averse to making a lateral move if the new city offered better terms? A team left Seattle (~3.5 million metro) for OKC (<1.5 million). If your city won't pay up, one or more of San Diego, St. Louis, Seattle, Tampa, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Las Vegas, Kansas City, Cincinatti, Austin etc will be willing to. And right now the good times are here and teams don't struggle in major metros. Not so very long ago in real world terms, Chicago and DC and Detroit all had teams fail and fold. Philly and Chicago also both had their teams relocate. Chicago drat near lost the Bulls in the late 60s when attendance dipped to like 1000 a game - and keep in mind the city's population was much HIGHER then (the metro was considerably smaller). For the same reason the Packers are staying in tiny Green Bay. San Antonio and Portland have passionate fanbases that have shown they can support an NBA team. Maybe that changes someday. All I'm saying is if you're putting out the kind of money that Milwaukee is to keep its team, it probably isn't an NBA city. Of course the Bucks could find another city to pay for their arena. But they're just moving from one city that can't support an NBA team to another. That's why I hate the talk of expansion. You're just adding more cities that can't support an NBA team on their own.
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Jun 16, 2017 00:55
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Niwrad posted:Plenty of owners have paid for their own stadiums. Usually they are in cities that can support NBA teams through ups and downs. Not too many. That mostly happens in California, because everything gets put on the ballot.
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Jun 16, 2017 00:56
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huh, wonder if its cause nba arenas are so much more multiuse than nfl stadiums or the just staggeringly stupid level of greed the nfl has even for billionaires. Good To Know either way. also the packers stay in green bay cause the city literally owns the team.
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Jun 16, 2017 00:57
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AggressivelyStupid posted:when is the game 6 gdt going up??? Not for a few years...
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Jun 16, 2017 01:00
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Niwrad posted:Staples Center (LA), United Center (Chicago), MSG renovations (NY), Pepsi Center (Denver). The new Chase Center (GS) will be privately financed. The new Clippers arena will be privately financed. And Hansen has offered to pay for an arena in Seattle. IN other words, huge metro areas where the owners would be fools to leave. And one in Denver, where they got some nice tax breaks to stay put. Owners still put all pretty much smaller cities over a barrel. "You don't want me to move out of Milwaukee to Louisville? Fine - gimme 500 mil" And it works.
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Jun 16, 2017 01:02
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predicto posted:IN other words, huge metro areas where the owners would be fools to leave. And one in Denver, where they got some nice tax breaks to stay put. Yes. All I'm saying is that if your city has to give up $500 million to keep an NBA team, maybe it shouldn't have one. This won't change because it's a great business strategy for billionaires. More just a fantasy scenario.
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Jun 16, 2017 01:08
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Ghost Dog posted:huh, wonder if its cause nba arenas are so much more multiuse than nfl stadiums or the just staggeringly stupid level of greed the nfl has even for billionaires. Good To Know either way. Downtown multi-use arenas built near mass transit are both cash cows for the owner and generate a lot of tax revenue for their cities. Any time a basketball arena or a baseball stadium is built in a big parking lot in the suburbs a horde of economists, city planners and environmental engineers cry themselves to sleep. Football stadiums? gently caress those giant white elephants. You don't want one in your city. Huge waste of money and land. Let the suckers in Santa Clara pick up the tab for that stinker.
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Jun 16, 2017 01:08
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AggressivelyStupid posted:when is the game 6 gdt going up??? idk, I'll sit here indian style, patiently until it goes up
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Jun 16, 2017 01:10
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Brolander posted:idk, I'll sit here indian style, patiently until it goes up Excuse me, it's called criss cross apple sauce
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Jun 16, 2017 01:19
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Brolander posted:idk, I'll sit here indian style, patiently until it goes up *cue OP will surely deliver skeleton meme*
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Jun 16, 2017 01:21
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BitterAvatar posted:Excuse me, it's called criss cross apple sauce Excuse me it's called How do you do that I'm not flexible enough it hurts
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Jun 16, 2017 01:22
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Niwrad posted:For the same reason the Packers are staying in tiny Green Bay. San Antonio and Portland have passionate fanbases that have shown they can support an NBA team. Maybe that changes someday. Packers ownership scheme and resulting fanatical fanbase (sry for cognate redundancy) warms my collectivist soul and strikes fear into the twisted blackened hearts of every team owner the world over. A city of 100,000 supports one of the most successful franchises in sports because they own it and can't nobody take it from 'em. Haha you can almost put the entire city into the stadium EvanTH fucked around with this message at 01:34 on Jun 16, 2017 |
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Jun 16, 2017 01:32
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Fairly certain the ACC was mostly funded by MLSE (the owners of the Raps/Leafs/TFC, etc). After the debacle with the skydome and the fact that every single person in Ontario knows how much money MLSE prints (it's also owned by the two largest telecoms in the country which most people consider fundamentally evil) I dont think taxpayers here will pay for a stadium for quite some time.
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Jun 16, 2017 01:33
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ESPN had a video of Spurs winning the 03 title Young Manu with hair is something else
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Jun 16, 2017 01:42
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Niwrad posted:For the same reason the Packers are staying in tiny Green Bay. San Antonio and Portland have passionate fanbases that have shown they can support an NBA team. Maybe that changes someday. As multiple people have already pointed out, Green Bay owns the Packers dingaling. That's exactly what I suggested as the real solution - public ownership of the teams by local government, or alternately by a community funded syndicate. "Passion" and "support" are currently expressed entirely in the form of spending, whether this comes in the form of merchandise and tickets or subsidies for operation and construction. The extent of that passion is subject to exogenous financial factors. People in SA won't stop caring about the Spurs when the economy tanks, but they will probably buy less poo poo
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Jun 16, 2017 01:45
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have it on good authority that this is the only way to express passion for the spurs
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Jun 16, 2017 01:54
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OzFactor posted:You can root for cool people who work hard and have fun! https://www.theplayerstribune.com/sean-kilpatrick-the-lox-a-yonkers-tale/ I'm always grateful to the Player's Tribune when I read pieces like this. This, and Dion Waiters Shits On Dudes For Thirty Paragraphs
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Jun 16, 2017 02:01
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TildeATH posted:Not for a few years... Savage I need a bot to autoquote this picture every time
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Jun 16, 2017 02:03
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NickRoweFillea posted:If the NBA contracted the Grizzlies I would kill the NBA. This is an explicit threat on the life of the NBA. I am not joking. You will need to be lucky for the rest of your life, I will only need to be lucky once. this is how i knew the guy who wrote that list was full of poo poo. who the gently caress wants to get rid of the grizz? the grizz loving own.
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Jun 16, 2017 02:05
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EvanTH posted:NYC has no landscape, has like four days of good weather a year and then is either way too loving hot or wet and freezing, outside of Plain Slices we got barely anything in the way of food culture (unless you're rich) and we also have a massive pricing issues but we blame it on our landlords, it's nothing to get defensive about. nah evanth nyc has proper food. well, at least in queens
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Jun 16, 2017 02:12
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R.D. Mangles posted:have it on good authority that this is the only way to express passion for the spurs
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Jun 16, 2017 02:16
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lemme get my scotch and i'll see about making a taebot a bot of a bot
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Jun 16, 2017 02:23
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Why the diapers though
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Jun 16, 2017 02:24
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zoux posted:Why the diapers though They are both a fashionable and functional garment for such an occasion. Even the Spurs' fans are efficient.
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Jun 16, 2017 02:26
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BWV posted:They are both a fashionable and functional garment for such an occasion. Even the Spurs' fans are efficient. i'm dumpin my drawers right now and i didn't even have to waste time going to the bathroom literally poo poo posting
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Jun 16, 2017 02:30
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Because they're gonna get or already are shitfaced and maybe now you can guess the story behind the phrase shitfaced.
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Jun 16, 2017 02:31
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E2M2 posted:I guess Lebron finally shaved his head huh He looks good and should have done it a long time ago
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Jun 16, 2017 02:43
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OzFactor posted:You can root for cool people who work hard and have fun! https://www.theplayerstribune.com/sean-kilpatrick-the-lox-a-yonkers-tale/ quote:I get it. When people look back, they think of Kenny Anderson, Stephon Marbury and Sebastian Telfair, the guys that had the ball on a string. Actually, Sebastian Telfair has a ball on a chain
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Jun 16, 2017 03:14
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Latinx posted:nah evanth nyc has proper food. well, at least in queens heard good stuff about all kinds of cheap queens food but it's way the gently caress out there. It's second on the list of places that are barely NYC anymore after Staten Island edit: how is rockaway part of queens instead of brooklyn Queens is huge and weirdly shaped and usually feels like long island EvanTH fucked around with this message at 03:36 on Jun 16, 2017 |
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Jun 16, 2017 03:33
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EvanTH posted:heard good stuff about all kinds of cheap queens food but it's way the gently caress out there. It's second on the list of places that are barely NYC anymore after Staten Island I consider way the gently caress out there like mt vernon. just get out the city some and eat some proper fuckin food my G
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Jun 16, 2017 03:53
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https://twitter.com/MasonGinsberg/status/875549092981637120
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Jun 16, 2017 04:20
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Before I even read the tweet I was like, goddamn Boogie lost some serious weight. That's probably great for his stamina and longevity, hopefully he kept some rear end fat though cause that's a big part of his skillset.
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Jun 16, 2017 04:43
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We'll look back nostalgically and chuckle at the time when Boogie got svelte and played the 3 for a year
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Jun 16, 2017 04:50
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Lmfao https://twitter.com/KDTrey5/status/875478266697572352 KD wins a title and is back to his prime Twitter days. Hell I'm for that
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Jun 16, 2017 05:00
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Metapod posted:Lmfao lmfao
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Jun 16, 2017 05:04
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as high expectations Scott Skiles quit on Lebron, who are signings or CJ and I was out means. "What if the balls, attempted multiple franchises get
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