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Owns. Also very owns. Echoing the "Mordian as a fleet ranking is really awesome" thing. Do you have any more models with this theme or is it just the one squad?
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So this is what I'm thinking of leaning towards for my basic 1K list. It's similar to what folks have seen before but I'm curious as to what Ork players and others think based on how the game has played thus far.pre:998 Points - Orks - 6 CP HQ Big Mek 55 Kustom Force Field 20 HQ Weirdboy 62 T 19 Slugga Boyz 114 Nob w/ Power Klaw 25 T 19 Slugga Boyz 114 Nob w/ Power Klaw 25 T 30 Shoota Boyz 180 2 Big Shootas 12 Nob w/ Power Klaw 25 HS Battlewagon 161 Deff Rolla 19 HS Battlewagon 161 Deff Rolla 19
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BaconCopter posted:Also very owns. Echoing the "Mordian as a fleet ranking is really awesome" thing. Do you have any more models with this theme or is it just the one squad? I just have the one squad, and only the ones shown here are actually finished. I have enough metal Catachans to round out the squad and do one more, I think (as well as a couple more Mordians for leaders). Unfortunately, GW axed Convict Squads in 7th Edition (part of the "we don't make minis for it" unit purge) so I lost the impetus to finish the entire unit. I have another naval-trooper Mordian (with grenade launcher!) finished, but he's in a different color scheme; he's in the "house colors" of the crew from our now-long-defunct Rogue Trader RPG campaign. I'll post photos of him tonight. I also have a conversion for a Tallarn standard bearer with a Plasma Gun that I did back in ... 4th Edition maybe? I was really happy with the way he turned out. Then they changed the Codex so standard bearers can't also take special weapons.  I love doing conversions, but 40K's ever-changing army list permutations have sort of soured me on actually putting in the effort. Did they actually bring back IG Convicts for 8th? Can you still give Veterans shotguns instead of lasguns?
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Jun 15, 2017 21:39
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Do models that are embarked on a transport count for the Weirdboy Waaagh! Energy rule? quote:Add 1 to any Psychic test rolls made for this model for every 10 friendly Ork models within 10". The transport rules specify how many models they can carry. If the transport is within 10" of the model, and it's carrying additional models, then by definition wouldn't those carried models also count for being within 10"? If I have 9 models surrounding the Weirdboy (including the Weirdboy) does he get the bonus?
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Jun 15, 2017 21:42
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Do models that are embarked on a transport count for the Weirdboy Waaagh! Energy rule? Models in transports generally don't count as being on the table. Like auras don't work in rides. I'd check the transport section to make sure.
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Jun 15, 2017 21:44
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TheChirurgeon posted:Any update on these? Trying to wrap things up so srm can create the OP I forgot how long it was since I painted them, so I am touching up enough to show off a squad + Tank first. Should have them by tomorrow
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Jun 15, 2017 21:55
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So I am about to strip the paint off my old scratch built skitari and repaint them as inquisition troops. What mixture of simple green should I use. Strait simple green or dilute with water.
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The transport rules don't explicitly say they can't, but I doubt anyone would let you have it. It's pretty clear that models in transports are not on the board for most purposes.
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Jun 15, 2017 21:56
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Naramyth posted:Models in transports generally don't count as being on the table. Like auras don't work in rides. I'd check the transport section to make sure. I did. It doesn't cover this particular aspect of it. It says that the unit cannot do anything or be affected in any way while embarked, and abilities that affect other units have no affect while the unit with that ability is embarked. The question is whether or not a unit that is embarked within the transport means that the models are carried within the transport and therefore count as being within 10". On the other hand the rules also say that a unit that is embarked is physically removed from the battlefield. Given the precedent of how things work in the other direction, and the instruction that the unit is removed from the battlefield while embarked, I would assume it means a model has to be physically present to be counted. That still leaves the question of whether or not "for every X" models means that if I have one model it counts or not. Does a unit of 11 boyz have the option to have 2 big shootas? Will a weirdboy always get a +1 to Psychic rolls since he's within 10" of himself? Corrode posted:The transport rules don't explicitly say they can't, but I doubt anyone would let you have it. It's pretty clear that models in transports are not on the board for most purposes. Yeah I think the bit about physically removing the unit from the battlefield is sufficient to say that the models gone. Shame, it would be fun to see my Weirdboyz auto-pass psychic rolls (and generally have their heads explode) by being surrounded by a bunch of battlewagons.
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I think the transport rules are pretty clear: They are not there. They can't affect anything or be affected by anything. They do make an exception for shooting out and that's about it.
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Naramyth posted:Models in transports generally don't count as being on the table. Like auras don't work in rides. I'd check the transport section to make sure. So... if you use Deathleaper's special rule to target a character and that model hides in a transport until turn 4, does that mean Deathleaper can't ever come on the table and will be automatically destroyed?
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TheChirurgeon posted:
What about this? 
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xtothez posted:So... if you use Deathleaper's special rule to target a character and that model hides in a transport until turn 4, does that mean Deathleaper can't ever come on the table and will be automatically destroyed? Similar to this, I've been wondering if you roll for Orikan's Empowerment while he's in a transport or waiting on the tomb world. It doesn't really say you don't? It just says at the start of your turn, roll.
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Jun 15, 2017 22:30
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OhDearGodNo posted:What about this? I don't know what this is, but it's rad as gently caress.
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TKIY posted:I think the transport rules are pretty clear: They are not there. They can't affect anything or be affected by anything. So if they can shoot out, and the rule says they're "embarked on the model", doesn't that mean they would be within 10" of the Weirdboy? I love this rule. And does anyone know if "for every 10 models" means that if you have one model it's +1?
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Jun 15, 2017 22:49
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:And does anyone know if "for every 10 models" means that if you have one model it's +1? I'm pretty sure "for every 10" means divided by 10, rounded down. The question about if the weirdboy himself counts is interesting though, considering auras apply to the character giving them usually, the intent isn't really clear and the wording is vague. I don't have the rules in front of me for the transport but I can see how it's unclear. There is already a few things I feel they need to FAQ/errata in 8th. EDIT: VVVVVV Agreed. Tired of the thread talking about how bad the thread is/how bad certain posters are. Just post about the game and show cool mans. Salynne fucked around with this message at 23:12 on Jun 15, 2017 |
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Gotta say, peeps posting their cool mans over the last few weeks has been a highlight of the thread. You dudes should keep posting your cool stuff.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:So if they can shoot out, and the rule says they're "embarked on the model", doesn't that mean they would be within 10" of the Weirdboy? The shooting thing is the exception. The general rule is they are not there. So the general rule applies here.
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General Olloth posted:I'm pretty sure "for every 10" means divided by 10, rounded down. The question about if the weirdboy himself counts is interesting though, considering auras apply to the character giving them usually, the intent isn't really clear and the wording is vague. The Weirdboy definitely counts for himself. Where did you see that you have to round down?
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I don't think he meant it says round down but that ots the sensible assumption. 15 mans =1.5= 1.
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^ Yeah maybe my explanation was weird.Beer4TheBeerGod posted:The Weirdboy definitely counts for himself. Where did you see that you have to round down? Wording of "for every". 4 isn't 10, it's not a 10 for there to be one for every. 4 models should be +0. 14 models should be +1. 26 models should be +2. There are only 2 10's in 26.
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Hra Mormo posted:I don't know what this is, but it's rad as gently caress. Thanks- it's for my beastman army I'm putting together for the NOVA Narrative- I know I've posted it before however I decided to take some effort to have some sort of background. Also adding the Gors that'll make up the bulk of the army, I just need to decide on a base.  
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Is it a no-no to talk about 3rd party miniatures here? Such as the RagingHeroes range?
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a cock shaped fruit posted:Is it a no-no to talk about 3rd party miniatures here? Such as the RagingHeroes range? Go hog wild. I think people find Chinese recast discussion a little distasteful, but I don't think anyone cares about third party proxies, though you may get dragged a little for Chesty Commissars. Is Raging Heroes the one with the Great Unclean One-alike named Scro'tumm Bh'oss?
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 Some praetorians for the banner image from way back when.
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a cock shaped fruit posted:Is it a no-no to talk about 3rd party miniatures here? Such as the RagingHeroes range? Kromlech meganobz are better than GW meganobz.
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General Olloth posted:^ Yeah maybe my explanation was weird. Fair enough. I can live with that interpretation.
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Yeast posted:
gently caress yeah, owns
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mango sentinel posted:Scro'tumm Bh'oss? I.... was not aware. But now I want to search. Busty commissars aside, was actually looking mostly at their SoB range of figures, wish I had backed when I had the chance. Would love a small-ish army of them. Edit: Like their War Pulpit  Strapping naked ladies to it aside, it's a pretty badass walker design. a cock shaped fruit fucked around with this message at 01:04 on Jun 16, 2017 |
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Bigly marine snap fit looked at in depth. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyISnIBMweo
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Any recommendations for decent cheap basing sand?
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Thundercloud posted:Bigly marine snap fit looked at in depth. I've assembled one squad of Intercessors, the command section and one of the Inceptors so far and they're pretty drat sweet. It's a small but appreciated change but the lenses in the helmet aren't just flat like usual marines, it's a little sliver of plastic which makes it that much easier to paint. Gonna have to work like a madman as I've got until the 28th to assemble and paint all the marine stuff to face my mates necrons in our first 8th ed game and my first proper 40k game in about 10 years.
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a cock shaped fruit posted:I.... was not aware. But now I want to search. I'm quite fond of their Kurganovas and Iron Empire minis. I'm getting some of the former to make a Shadow War Kill-team, and, maybe, one day, an actual Guard army. The Jailbirds would make good Catachan/Conscript/I want a pin-up girl armies I guess. Or maybe even Necromunda gangs. I really want to like their SoB stuff, but I have this thing where I cannot accept SoBs that don't have the Fleur-de-Lys. It's probably my Joan of Arc complex.  I'm getting my hands on some of the Russian SoBs (hopefully tomorrow) and they look like they'll be pretty sweet.
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goose willis posted:Any recommendations for decent cheap basing sand? Go to the beach and boil it.
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goose willis posted:Any recommendations for decent cheap basing sand? I bought a giant bag of playground sand from a Rona store, cheap as hell
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I use sand I stole from a children's playground and I didn't boil it.
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playground sand + sieve.
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Can you just put units inside of units in this edition? For example, is there any reason you couldn't just put a commissar in the middle of a conscript squad?
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The Kingfish posted:I use sand I stole from a children's playground and I didn't boil it. Assume that means you're going Death Guard for 8th?
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