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Jerusalem posted:Look all I'm saying is that if there is going to be a new Star Trek, it should be a followup to DS9 and about Sisko returning from Sisko returns in O'Brien's body. SiskoBrien enters Quark's and proceeds to win jackpots while shouting DaaaaaaBBBoooOOOOOoooo
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Sisko returns in O'Brien's body. SiskoBrien enters Quark's and proceeds to win jackpots while shouting DaaaaaaBBBoooOOOOOoooo Sisko spends an entire end credit sequence standing staring in fascination at a statue until Odo comes back around and gently escorts him home, slapping his hand every time he tries to touch his Comms badge 
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Which Voyager episode out of curiosity, because there is a couple I can think of off the top of my head that are far worse than Threshold. It's Retrospect, which is divisive, but the ending makes it the worst, because it's actually reprehensible. The metaphors in Star Trek don't tend to be subtle, and when you're doing one about sexual assault, the message at the end shouldn't be "Maybe she accidentally just made the whole thing up because of her traumatic childhood."
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Bicyclops posted:It's Retrospect, which is divisive, but the ending makes it the worst, because it's actually reprehensible. The metaphors in Star Trek don't tend to be subtle, and when you're doing one about sexual assault, the message at the end shouldn't be "Maybe she accidentally just made the whole thing up because of her traumatic childhood." Oh THAT one. That one is definitely one of the worst, alongside the one with the obscenely rascist prisoner subplot and the one where B'Elanna throws a teenage spat over her unborn daughter hsving klingon forhead ridges and tries to re-engineer her genetics so she'll grow into a blonde-haired pure human  .
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VR-9ndolk4 Moffat does that thing where he talks about an episode and shows nothing new or enticing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YSwRYP8p7I Peter and Pearl do the same Vinylshadow fucked around with this message at 20:02 on Jun 15, 2017 |
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Jun 14, 2017 19:14
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 BIG FINISH NEWS Sir Derek Jacobi is coming back in.. The War Master! 
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Derek Jacobi returning as the War Master, Time War Gallifrey, and the further adventures of the cat nurses and tree people of New Earth???? efb
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Looks really good, but I have to say that: "With his plans approaching fruition, the Master travels to Stamford Bridge in the 1970s" is not a sentence that gets me all a-quiver.
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Plavski posted:Looks really good, but I have to say that: "With his plans approaching fruition, the Master travels to Stamford Bridge in the 1970s" is not a sentence that gets me all a-quiver. It turns out the Master's just a big Chelsea fan and not missing a match is the one thing more important to him than conquering the universe.
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Absolutely not the news I was expecting to wake up to!
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*taps fingers* Interesting...
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I did wonder if they'd planned to have The War Doctor and Master ever meet in the audios, but I realised that wouldn't have worked (without a memory wipe of the Doctor). 
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The_Doctor posted:I did wonder if they'd planned to have The War Doctor and Master ever meet in the audios, but I realised that wouldn't have worked (without a memory wipe of the Doctor). But memory wipes are what Big Finish does best! 
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Bicyclops posted:But memory wipes are what Big Finish does best! If it were an 8th Doctor story, maybe!
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I mean, honestly, this doesn't work as is. The Master arrived at the end of time as a child fresh from regeneration, and naturally grew up into a kindly old man due to being biologically human. He wasn't ever active in the Time War as Jacobi Master. But whatever, hopefully they can tell some good stories with it.
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Burkion posted:I mean, honestly, this doesn't work as is. Did he? I was under the impression all of the footage of him as a child was a flashback to the Time Lords changing his history.
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Yeah, his whole life could just be a chameleon arch memory implant like the Doctor's was in Family of Blood.
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Bicyclops posted:Did he? I was under the impression all of the footage of him as a child was a flashback to the Time Lords changing his history. Nah, he straight up says that he has no memories of where he came from, but he was found as a naked child by people, with the only thing in his possession being his watch. So I guess you could write around it, but the intent was pretty clear. But again, if you can tell a good story by retconning it, go for it.
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Burkion posted:Nah, he straight up says that he has no memories of where he came from, but he was found as a naked child by people, with the only thing in his possession being his watch. I figured that was a false memory, like the Doctor's John Smith persona.
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The_Doctor posted:I figured that was a false memory, like the Doctor's John Smith persona. I always took it at face value- the false memory would be where he came from, but he was clearly around in this time line as Yana for a pretty drat long time. And it would make sense that the Master, attempting to flee from the Time War, would regress to an actual child and hide away. But it's not a big thing.
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That's great news, if only because Derek Jacobi rules and I loved the oh so brief glimpse we had of him as the Master. And yeah, I assumed that the "I was found as a child" bit was just a false memory implanted by the Chameleon Arch, in the same way that John Smith remembers his parents and being a child during the tail end of the Victorian era.
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So what I'm gathering from this thread is I should finally get around to watching I, Cladius in its entirety?
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CobiWann posted:So what I'm gathering from this thread is I should finally get around to watching I, Cladius in its entirety? Basically yes, it's got every British acting powerhouse from the 70s.
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CobiWann posted:So what I'm gathering from this thread is I should finally get around to watching I, Cladius in its entirety? It's historically spurious as you might imagine, but oh so enjoyable. Really wonderful performances across the board.
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Brian Blessed is terrible casting as Augustus. Brian Blessed is PERFECT as Augustus 
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I want to hear McQueen regenerate into Jacobi, so Big Finish had better do it.
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On this thread's... advice, I picked up Paradise Towers from HMV (yes they still exist shut up). It's the most horrendously 80s thing I've ever seen, and I'm barely ten minutes in taking periodic breaks to cringe.
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You take that back! It's the best! < >
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I assumed that "the most horrendously 80s thing I have ever seen" was a compliment.
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The_Doctor posted:You take that back! It's the best! < Red Kangs the best! e: just got to the resolution to the old lady lesbian cannibal cult.
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Paradise Towers was great and the Great Architect was an absolute delight at the end Pex lives!
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Literally more excited about this than I was about new 10 audios!!  Suppose that puts a fork in my hopes for a multi-Master on screen adventure with Jacobi but WHO CARES WE'RE GETTING WAR MASTER AUDIOS 
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I would legitimately be hugely excited if, years from now, they had a multi-master episode with as many people as they could get, on screen, and if talented, scenery-chewing actor, Derek Jacobi's only role was to say "Well, I just thought-" and then Missy says "Shut up, Yana!" and then it pans away, leaving him offscreen for the rest of the episode. That is how much I want more Derek Jacobi as the Master on screen (with all respect to Big Finish, I need him to act with his face).
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Bicyclops posted:I would legitimately be hugely excited if, years from now, they had a multi-master episode with as many people as they could get, on screen, and if talented, scenery-chewing actor, Derek Jacobi's only role was to say "Well, I just thought-" and then Missy says "Shut up, Yana!" and then it pans away, leaving him offscreen for the rest of the episode. That is how much I want more Derek Jacobi as the Master on screen (with all respect to Big Finish, I need him to act with his face). "God, Jerry, not everything is about you!"
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Burkion posted:I always took it at face value- the false memory would be where he came from, but he was clearly around in this time line as Yana for a pretty drat long time. And it would make sense that the Master, attempting to flee from the Time War, would regress to an actual child and hide away. Rule one: the Doctor lies. Rule two: the Master always loving lies.
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BSam posted:Rule one: the Doctor lies. I'm half-expecting the resolution of this season to be Missy simply biding her time and waiting for her prior incarnation to come rescue her. Just as she remembers doing when she was Simms Master.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:I'm half-expecting the resolution of this season to be Missy simply biding her time and waiting for her prior incarnation to come rescue her. Just as she remembers doing when she was Simms Master. And then he doesn't, just to troll himself! Edit: I can fully believe all crows in the present day are having a huff
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I feel like the news about Simms Master being released early and then the teaser clip of his appearance at the start of the season will only lead to massive amounts of fan disappointment. It has a high chance of ending up as Facebook hater fuel. Like either the reason for his presence isn't explained properly, or the story doesn't live up to mass expectations or something. There's literally no way this is going to end up pleasing everyone and it should have been kept just as secret as 8th Doctor regeneration or the actress for the 13th Doctor. 
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