Jippa posted:

Exclusive: Labour leader to introduce political US rap duo Run the Jewels on the main stage as Michael Eavis hails him ‘the hero of the hour’

Junior G-man posted:

loving hell: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jun/16/worked-kctmo-nightmares-burning-tower-blocks

Tesseraction posted:

Thing is how could the Tories recover their image from this? Everyone on the ground hates them, May's fled the scene like a coward. It'd require a leadership change to get them out of this rut, and their BOZZA LEJJURND is apparently unpopular over the Brexit campaign.

learnincurve posted:

I would say May is at a huge risk of being murdered to death. It's not the Muslims or people posting on the internet that the G men need to be scared of. It's the homeless man with nothing to lose or the sweet old man who just got diagnosed with cancer and has simply had enough. Or you know, the fire survivors who just lost their families. These quiet people can't be traced or tracked, they are simply going to walk up to her and stab her. She's made herself the figurehead with all of this "my party" guff, it will make her the target.

Don't do this btw, watching her as her cronies get wiped out in the next election will be sweet enough and tbh we don't really need to watch the Tory papers pretend they care while covering a televised state funeral.

vegetables posted:

I am very bad at political predictions, but I expect that footage of Boris rudely dismissing fire safety concerns while Mayor of London will have a catastrophic impact on his leadership aspirations.

Boris Johnson posted:

There has sadly been some political game playing about the terrible fire in London. I find it unbelievable that Labour are suggesting that this tragedy was somehow caused by fire service cuts.
The fire brigade was there astonishingly quickly and performed with great bravery.
As for the record, fires in London went down 50 per cent in my mayoralty.
Fire deaths down year after year.
London has fastest appliance response times in the country.
Sadiq Khan conducted his own review of the london fire safety plan. If he felt that the provision in Kensington was deficient he had ample budget to change it.
Any attack on emergency services performance is outrageous politicking by labour.

happyhippy posted:

Was thinking of this last night actually, its probably a more risk that potential terrorists will now just burn down other tower blocks.
Instead of ramming a car into a crowd and waving knives about, you find a tower block, take over the first floor of it, fill it with flammable stuff, and then burn it down at 3am.

Do tower blocks in London have much security?

Firos posted:

Halisnacks posted:

Has there been much politicking around the inadequacy of the emergency service response?

To me, most of the narrative seems to be the profit > people one and Tory complicity in that.

communism bitch posted:

None whatsoever that I've seen, he's trying to deflect the narrative line away from regulations and onto emergency services, which could work in another, muddier, situation. But the focus here is laser sharp on housing cuts and regulations, and nobody will fall for that sort of clumsy deflection today.

Regarde Aduck posted:

Better than A tier. Possibly means special?

It's a japanese game thing. Games like Devil May Cry. If you're fighting is fancy enough you get a S-Tier award.

Bloody non-weebs.

edit: beaten with a better explanation

Halisnacks posted:

Has there been much politicking around the inadequacy of the emergency service response?

To me, most of the narrative seems to be the profit > people one and Tory complicity in that.

Regarde Aduck posted:

Better than A tier. Possibly means special?

It's a japanese game thing. Games like Devil May Cry. If you're fighting is fancy enough you get a S-Tier award.

Bloody non-weebs.

edit: beaten with a better explanation

Are Gary in the Graun posted:

The night the Labour manifesto was released, I went to a hotel in Wembley, close to Harrow, where a focus group of undecided voters, brought together by research company Britain Thinks, intimated that they were warming to Corbyn, in part because they preferred him, as a person, to the prime minister. Some had serious reservations – calling him “unfocused”, “untidy” and “lacking personality” – but most described him as “a man of principles”, an “idealist”, “honest” and “underestimated”.

They saw Theresa May as “strong” and “clever”, but also “uncaring”, “untrustworthy” and “unpredictable”. One voter said: “He’d buy a round, Theresa wouldn’t.” The group were asked if they would trust May to look after their house while they were on holiday. The consensus: “The house, yes. But not the pets.”

waffle posted:

In extremely George Takei voice: Ohhhhh myyyyy
https://twitter.com/Survation/status/875662347880288257

communism bitch posted:

IFM is our pet moron apparently.
I still maintain hope that a relentless process of negative reinforcement can turn him into a tolerably acceptable poster.

happyhippy posted:

They have been saying that the fire crew arrived within 6 minutes.
And to be fair, there is no fire equipment on earth that they use that could have stopped a fire past a certain floor from the outside..

Darth Walrus posted:

'literally ran corporate rape camps on U.K. soil' May look bad.

JFairfax posted:

gently caress off with that frog shite

happyhippy posted:

Was thinking of this last night actually, its probably a more risk that potential terrorists will now just burn down other tower blocks.
Instead of ramming a car into a crowd and waving knives about, you find a tower block, take over the first floor of it, fill it with flammable stuff, and then burn it down at 3am.

Do tower blocks in London have much security?

ronya posted:

the Sun is attempting to blame Khan so BoJo's move is perhaps being synchronised

we'll see how well it sticks - probably not very well, but Labour itself is likely to hesitate before signing on to specific regulatory measures, in the absence of independent inquiry recommendations, I think

the Express is suggesting that EU energy requirements are to blame, which is another possible Tory line of atttack in the upcoming weeks (remember that these attacks don't have to make sense to work)

the more populist papers are attacking the stay-put directive more than the cladding, which makes sense. sprinklers seem to have dropped out of the conversation for now. I doubt we will overturn the movement toward limiting fire spread, so this is yet another way in which public fury might get lost in the bushes of implementation

Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:

What

Guardian posted:

King’s College hospital is to lodge a complaint with the press watchdog over a journalist who allegedly impersonated a relative of a victim of the Grenfell Tower fire in order to get an interview with him.

The hospital is to file a complaint with the Independent Press Standards Organisation (Ipso) about the behaviour of the Sun reporter. It has also written to News UK, the publisher of the Sun, Times and Sunday Times, about the incident.

“Following an incident at King’s College hospital, we have formally written to the Sun and will be informing the Independent Press Standards Organisation,” said a spokeswoman for King’s College hospital NHS foundation trust. “We are unable to comment on the specifics until our complaint has been investigated.”

It is understood that the Sun was trying to get an interview with Mario Gomes, a resident on the 21st floor who has been hailed as a hero after racing back into the building to find his 12-year-old daughter.

Sources say a Sun journalist has been accused of attempting to impersonate a relative of Gomes to hospital staff in order to interview him.

Graun Live posted:

Almost exactly 24 hours after Downing Street said the Prime Minister couldn’t possibly meet victims of the Grenfell disaster because of security concerns, the Queen and Prince William’s visit to Latimer Road came with minimal security.

They drove up in a green Range Rover - dog gates up at the back, although the corgis stayed at home - with so little fanfare several locals walked right past them, unaware of the identities of the latest well-wishers to Westway Sports Centre, applauding instead the firefighters who walked behind her.

The Centre, in the shadow of the now burnt out shell of the Grenfell, has, in the past 48 hours, become a shelter for residents left homeless by the tragedy: the usually popular basketball courts are filled with boxes of donations while volunteers estimate about 30 people are still sleeping in the Centre, many of whom almost certainly used to use the facilities for very different purposes.

The Queen, in matching royal blue coat and hat, accompanied by her grandson, spoke first to volunteers and policemen before meeting some of the victims outside. “She looked like she had so much compassion, like she understood what we’ve been through,” said Rihanna Levi, 17, who spoke to her and lived next to the tower.

“She spoke about how awful it must have been in the stairways when the lights went out and there was so much smoke,” Levi added.

“I can’t say I’m surprised because I always knew she was someone who cared,” added Vassilli Stavropol-Loren, who has lived in a neighbouring tower block for 34 years.

“She understood the gravity.” How did they feel about the other politicians who have visited? “You could see Corbyn stands by his word,” said Rihanna Levi’s mother, Marcia.

And the Prime Minister? Naomi, Rihanna’s 28-year-old sister, shrugged: “I have no words about that woman.”

ronya posted:

the Sun is attempting to blame Khan so BoJo's move is perhaps being synchronised

happyhippy posted:

They have been saying that the fire crew arrived within 6 minutes.
And to be fair, there is no fire equipment on earth that they use that could have stopped a fire past a certain floor from the outside..

Rakosi posted:

I never really understood the "stay in your flat" advice for high rise buildings. Of course, it's better than going out into the corridor and falling unconscious from smoke inhalation, but even on the 4th story of my block, if the whole corridor outside is on fire then sure the fire brigade might arrive within a few minutes but they're not going to be standing outside my door in an extinguished corridor within the time that my 30-minute rated front door keeps the fire outside my flat.

Would rather jump and break my legs, at least from the 4th story. Anyone higher up would be screwed.

Rakosi posted:

I never really understood the "stay in your flat" advice for high rise buildings.

VideoGames posted:

Why would it be Sadiq Khan's fault?