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| Labour |
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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Oh look, a bunch of SWP banners. gently caress me those fuckers would make the end of the world about them, wouldn't they? They've also set up shop outside Brixton tube station
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goddamnedtwisto posted:This May interview on Sky is a loving car crash. Missed it so hopefully they'll just keep repeating it if it's that bad.
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XMNN posted:i understand not going out in front of the actual victims because she's scared of them (even if i don't condone it) but when was the last time she actually appeared on camera or talked to a journalist She appeared on the news at six, the journalist got a single question which was 'did you badly misjudge the mood by refusing to meet with residents?' May dodged the question and just kept repeating that this was a tragedy. It's pretty clear she's hosed hugely, I just hope her incompetence and malice clings to the Tory party and sinks their chances of being in power for as long as possible. If there's a silver lining its that whenever the next election is it's looking increasingly likely we will see a Corbyn government.
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Jun 16, 2017 18:42
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Gort posted:What are the issues with the SWP? Anyone got a good run-down? They're poo poo and covered up rape allegations against senior party figures. But lets face it 99% of people have no clue who the SWP are and all of this moaning just gives them the attention they crave. I'm pretty sure your average CLP has more members than the SWP nationally now.
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Gort posted:What are the issues with the SWP? Anyone got a good run-down? They closed ranks to protect a possible rapist in the senior party membership, and bullied and harassed people who spoke out into leaving the party. They have a track record of attempting to control and take over grass-roots activist groups, and their other big thing is turning up at any public movement with bin-bags full of their placards to hand out, so people think they're more than a tiny ridiculous grouplet. That's a beief summary but there's more.
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Jun 16, 2017 18:44
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This won't be going away. Protester calls on people to march on Downing Street. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEJBwCTk67U
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I am reminded of this, principally because Corbyn may actually be close to running our https://www.buzzfeed.com/lukebailey/labour-theory-of-ale (Yeah, I know, Buzzfeed, but a bit of brevity never hurt anyone...)
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Jun 16, 2017 18:45
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Gort posted:What are the issues with the SWP? Anyone got a good run-down? Rape apologists who are swift to coopt anything on the left to become about them.
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Jun 16, 2017 18:46
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Lord of the Llamas posted:They're poo poo and covered up rape allegations against senior party figures. My previous local CLP covered up rape allegations against relatives of senior party figures.... :s
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Jun 16, 2017 18:47
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Beefeater1980 posted:No it's not. Malice is malice. If incompetence is held out as the same thing, it makes malice seem less bad. You punish malice, you correct incompetence. Malice is not incompetence, but incompetence is also something that can be deserving of punishment. See for example criminal negligence. There are various levels on mens rea that are criminal and punishable.
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Jun 16, 2017 18:48
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Nuclearmonkee posted:They do not. The olds who lived through the era of the red scare still have that poo poo ingrained while the young just go "wtf are you on about you old gently caress" They definitely do not. When I tell people I'm a communist (have been since I was about 12) they don't believe me. "But Hexyflexy, you own a business? You can't be?", Err yeah I set that up to do research for the public good after the government shut down most of the ways to do that through academia, or getting a job with the GPO (I'm such a GPO nerd). "But you'd lose everything!", err, not really, I'd be leading a design bureau somewhere, I'd be perfectly happy and the most important bit, most of my friends and everyone else would be okay too.
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Jun 16, 2017 18:49
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I hope they march on 10 downing street
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Jun 16, 2017 18:50
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DeadButDelicious posted:Steve Bell with a pretty damning cartoon on the Grauniad's website: I know this is from ages ago but can someone explain to me, a Canadian, what this cartoon means? I assume the Union Jack at the top is something?
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Jun 16, 2017 18:50
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HookShot posted:I know this is from ages ago but can someone explain to me, a Canadian, what this cartoon means? I assume the Union Jack at the top is something?
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Jun 16, 2017 18:51
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Getting reports on Twitter that the EDL have turned up at the town hall, imagine it's only a matter of time till that oval office Tommy Robinson starts sticking his beak in too.
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she morally equates driving a car to the actions of the people who failed to protect the lives of the people living in the tower in this article btw.
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Jun 16, 2017 18:52
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Gort posted:What are the issues with the SWP? Anyone got a good run-down? Google SWP rape and the first result should be an article from the New Statesman that's worth a read. But it comes down to Comrade Delta. SWP lost a lot of supporters and poisoned relations with potential allies.
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Apparently the Queen showed up and talked to the residents while May moaned about security...
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Jun 16, 2017 18:53
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Gort posted:What are the issues with the SWP? Anyone got a good run-down? https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/athousandflowers.net/2013/03/31/this-is-a-tax-demo-why-dont-you-go-back-to-your-rape-demo/amp/
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inkjet_lakes posted:Getting reports on Twitter that the EDL have turned up at the town hall, imagine it's only a matter of time till that oval office Tommy Robinson starts sticking his beak in too. whose side are they on though? I don't think showing up to defend Theresa May would be high up on the average thumbhead's list of priorities?
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Jun 16, 2017 18:54
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I don't know how the SWP manage to have signs for every possible eventuality on hand but that's the main reason that protests always have a ton of them. Free publicity for them which is unfortunate, but I wouldn't assume a random person holding a SWP sign knows anything about them or actively supports them.
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CommieGIR posted:Apparently the Queen showed up and talked to the residents while May moaned about security... Yeah, she drove up in her land rover and walked around about an hour after May said she couldn't meet the residents because of security fears. It was lol af
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goddamnedtwisto posted:This May interview on Sky is a loving car crash. link I up
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waffle posted:I don't know how the SWP manage to have signs for every possible eventuality on hand but that's the main reason that protests always have a ton of them. Free publicity for them which is unfortunate, but I wouldn't assume a random person holding a SWP sign knows anything about them or actively supports them. I'm pretty sure the SWP are a front for the sign making industry.
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Jun 16, 2017 18:57
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Weirdly enough, I was just listening to the episode of Chapo where they break down her book, and shes even dumber than this headline suggests. Shes the sort of person that thinks that she got to where she is through hard work and perseverance when you just know that had she not been born into an affluent family she wouldn't even be fit to stack shelves.
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Jun 16, 2017 18:58
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For all you non-Americans, this is a pretty good example of Megan McArdle's strange mix of idiot opinions and 'golly gee'/amazed by existence thinking. She iss the stupidest motherfucker writing a major opinion column in the U.S. (not that you couldn't tell). Yes, I know about David Brooks 
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The trick with the SWP whenever you're at a demo is to accept a sign and ask for a couple for your mates, and then smash them up and throw 'em in the bin. Every little helps.
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jabby posted:This won't be going away. Protester calls on people to march on Downing Street. I worry that too much focus on her is going to let the rest of the Tories hide behind her at this point inevitable and imminent resignation. Look, the PM has quit! Something Has Been Done!
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HookShot posted:I know this is from ages ago but can someone explain to me, a Canadian, what this cartoon means? I assume the Union Jack at the top is something? When Call Me "Pigfucker" Davey "Pie" Hameron took over the conservatives they changed their logo to a tree to show that they were caring and environmental. I forget when but shortly afterwards they transitioned into a union jack over the tree to express their dropping of environmentalism and embrace of nationalist racism. I assume if May stays in very long it'll do its full transformation into a union jack swastika
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Jun 16, 2017 19:00
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peanut- posted:I worry that too much focus on her is going to let the rest of the Tories hide behind her at this point inevitable and imminent resignation. Again don't fret, the rest of them are also an unelectable shower of shites. We know this because May was the best they could offer after pig fucker flounced in a huff.
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Jun 16, 2017 19:01
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nopantsjack posted:union jack swastika Presumably this already exists in Hearts of Iron or something, and heck I'd like to see how the logo for full-fash britain will look.
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Jun 16, 2017 19:02
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The rate things are going if Corbyn used his first PMQs to call on Theresa May to resign there's a good chance it would actually happen.
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Jun 16, 2017 19:02
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The tree is significant because there was a big outcry that it cost something like 30k to make and the job was given to somone's son. It was literally made in MS paint and a small child could have done better.
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communism bitch posted:Presumably this already exists in Hearts of Iron or something, and heck I'd like to see how the logo for full-fash britain will look. if you turn the UK fash in HoI4 it turns into the British Empire, extremely appropriate imo N-not that I would ever have dreamed of fighting on the side of the virtual nazis, c-comrade!
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nopantsjack posted:if you turn the UK fash in HoI4 it turns into the British Empire, extremely appropriate imo
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Jun 16, 2017 19:06
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I played Arsenal of Democracy once and tried to win the Spanish Civil War as Republican Spain but I couldn't figure out how to do anything and lost immediately.
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peanut- posted:I worry that too much focus on her is going to let the rest of the Tories hide behind her at this point inevitable and imminent resignation. Yeah but what fucker can replace her and do better? Everyone else is as widely hated. Fash UK in Hearts of Iron gets the Union Flag with the BUF symbol over the middle if I'm remembering right.
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