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mcmagic posted:No there weren't. At least no good cards that you wanted to be playing that answered them. They are bad deigns for different reasons but they are all in the design error category. White has Stasis Snare (Both), Dec in Stone(Emrakul), Black has Oblivion Strike(Emmy), Murder(Copter), Blue has Imprisoned in the Moon(Emmy) and tons of bounce spells for Copter. Red with Fiery Temper/Harnessed(Copter) and those are just off the top of my head which I"m sure there is more Just because you deem a card "not good" doesn't mean it's not an answer. If you don't want to run them that's on you but to say there are no answers is just false.
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80s James Hetfield posted:White has Stasis Snare (Both), Dec in Stone(Emrakul), Black has Oblivion Strike(Emmy), Murder(Copter), Blue has Imprisoned in the Moon(Emmy) and tons of bounce spells for Copter. Red with Fiery Temper/Harnessed(Copter) and those are just off the top of my head which I"m sure there is more If you are listing four-mana draft fodder as answers to be played in real constructed decks I don't think we can trust your analysis for much.
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Jun 16, 2017 19:16
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Alaan posted:Is the GP Fri/sat instead of Sat/Sun? Legacy is Thurs/Fri, Limited is Fri/Sat, Modern is Sat/Sun.
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Jun 16, 2017 19:18
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80s James Hetfield posted:White has Stasis Snare (Both), Dec in Stone(Emrakul), Black has Oblivion Strike(Emmy), Murder(Copter), Blue has Imprisoned in the Moon(Emmy) and tons of bounce spells for Copter. Red with Fiery Temper/Harnessed(Copter) and those are just off the top of my head which I"m sure there is more If you have Imprisoned in the Moon when Emrakul gets cast, you're going to lose that game. If you have Oblivion Strike in your hand when Emrakul gets cast and control a creature, you're going to lose that game. If you have no creatures in play when Emrakul gets cast, you've already lost that game! If you're holding up 3+ mana in the hopes of answering an opponent's two drop or finisher, you're going to lose that match.
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Voyager I posted:If you are listing four-mana draft fodder as answers to be played in real constructed decks I don't think we can trust your analysis for much. None of those are 4 mana and all of them were all at one time spells in constructed decks except for Imprisoned in the Moon.
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80s James Hetfield posted:White has Stasis Snare (Both), Dec in Stone(Emrakul), Black has Oblivion Strike(Emmy), Murder(Copter), Blue has Imprisoned in the Moon(Emmy) and tons of bounce spells for Copter. Red with Fiery Temper/Harnessed(Copter) and those are just off the top of my head which I"m sure there is more None of those are a reasonable answer to Emrakul. Even if you get lucky and topdeck them after they strip every good spell out of your hand. You're profiting on mana with basically every single way you listed that they can kill your copter. NTM the fact of how ubiquitous it was.
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Jun 16, 2017 19:22
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Jun 16, 2017 19:24
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80s James Hetfield posted:None of those are 4 mana and all of them were all at one time spells in constructed decks except for Imprisoned in the Moon. No one ever played Oblivion Strike, and also Murder is a bad answer to Copter because it costs more than the creature it's killing.
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Jun 16, 2017 19:27
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Elyv posted:No one ever played Oblivion Strike, and also Murder is a bad answer to Copter because it costs more than the creature it's killing. I saw Oblivion Strike played last week at the GP to get rid of Ulamog
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Jun 16, 2017 19:28
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YggdrasilTM posted:
I don't know Italian but I'm guessing that the flavor text is Bolas making fun of Chandra for only knowing how to work with fire, which owns.
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Jun 16, 2017 19:29
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80s James Hetfield posted:I saw Oblivion Strike played last week at the GP to get rid of Ulamog There are no good decks playing that card.
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Jun 16, 2017 19:30
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C-Euro posted:I don't know Italian but I'm guessing that the flavor text is Bolas making fun of Chandra for only knowing how to work with fire, which owns. He really does maybe kick their rear end and somehow banish them to a bunch of different planes at the end of HOD doesn't he.
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Jun 16, 2017 19:30
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YggdrasilTM posted:
Well drat. That's same serious removal right there. One mana five damage, instant speed? Edit: red only, never mind.
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The Lord of Hats posted:Well drat. That's same serious removal right there. One mana five damage, instant speed? edit: efb
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Jun 16, 2017 19:31
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Instant R: Destroy Target Glorybringer
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Jun 16, 2017 19:31
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YggdrasilTM posted:
This one's upside should be for when you target a Glorybringer, and then it would be good Edit; goddamnit mcmagic
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Jun 16, 2017 19:32
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mcmagic posted:I'm not advocating for jail time for the leakier but it's not out of the realm of possibility.
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Jun 16, 2017 19:36
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lol at the fact and fiction: magic would be worse without the lore and storylines
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Jun 16, 2017 19:38
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80s James Hetfield posted:He really does maybe kick their rear end and somehow banish them to a bunch of different planes at the end of HOD doesn't he. It does seem like an elegant way to pull back on the amount of Gatewatch per set, and not having to stick to the same plane for multiple sets means they can have arcs focusing on individual characters without being locked in for a full six months.
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Jun 16, 2017 19:52
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Good lord this match. Grixis vs. Sneak and Show Game 1: Turn 2 Emrakul win Game 2: Turn 1 Island, Lotus Petal, SSGuide ---> Blood Moon
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Jun 16, 2017 19:55
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80s James Hetfield posted:Good lord this match. Grixis vs. Sneak and Show Grixis is actually a favorite in this matchup despite the way these games have gone.
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Jun 16, 2017 19:57
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C-Euro posted:I don't know Italian but I'm guessing that the flavor text is Bolas making fun of Chandra for only knowing how to work with fire, which owns. It's not Italian (it's Portuguese) but it basically says "Fire? Is that your only trick, Chandra?"
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Jun 16, 2017 19:57
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80s James Hetfield posted:Good lord this match. Grixis vs. Sneak and Show So...the Grixis player kept a hand with no 0-1 mana interaction in game 2? I've never played Grixis and only like 3 matches of S&S ever but I feel like that has to be a mistake.
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Jun 16, 2017 19:58
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Elyv posted:So...the Grixis player kept a hand with no 0-1 mana interaction in game 2? I've never played Grixis and only like 3 matches of S&S ever but I feel like that has to be a mistake. His T1 was Dual land --> DRS
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Jun 16, 2017 20:01
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80s James Hetfield posted:His T1 was Dual land --> DRS Okay sure but did he have any 2-3 mana spells that can stop a t2 show? I can't imagine why he'd keep otherwise. I guess he could have had Flusterstorms and/or spell pierces since S&S usually can't t1
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Jun 16, 2017 20:08
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DRS is kiiiind of an out, I guess? Assuming his opponent is on basically nothing after the T1 Blood Moon, he can discard lands to hand size for deathrite to filter and then try to stick a Delver and blind flip or something? It's...not great.
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Jun 16, 2017 20:15
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C-Euro posted:I don't know Italian but I'm guessing that the flavor text is Bolas making fun of Chandra for only knowing how to work with fire, which owns. It's Portuguese, rough Google translate is "Fire? Is this your only trick, Chandra?"
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Jun 16, 2017 20:21
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TheChirurgeon posted:It's not Italian (it's Portuguese) but it basically says "Fire? Is that your only trick, Chandra?" Nibble posted:It's Portuguese, rough Google translate is "Fire? Is this your only trick, Chandra?" And apparently I don't know Portuguese either  thanks
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Jun 16, 2017 20:41
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I just noticed that it looks like Chandra is on Bolas's hand
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Jun 16, 2017 20:50
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C-Euro posted:And apparently I don't know Portuguese either At a glance, Portuguese looks more like Spanish than Italian, but the "m"s give it away {"descartar um card")--in Italian the discard clause would have been "scarta una carta" and Spanish would have been "descarta una carta"
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suicidesteve posted:I've been told from a pretty reliable source that WotC employees aren't allowed to stream. Well then I hope he does well because it was hard enough to build the small mtg twitch community he has at this point and taking a year off for this job is going to wipe it out.
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Who will be the first to craft a "Defeat" deck using Distorting Lens (or other color changers)? Seems like an interesting (maybe not effective?) trick.
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Jun 16, 2017 21:40
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It's Sea-MAN!
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I'm legit disappointed that the entire Gatewatch ate poo poo and not just Jace
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Rigel posted:I just noticed that it looks like Chandra is on Bolas's hand There's no "looks like." Bolas is so large that he is holding Chandra in his hand.
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Star Man posted:There's no "looks like." Bolas is so large that he is holding Chandra in his hand. Also to be fair it looks like that.
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TheChirurgeon posted:It's not Italian (it's Portuguese) but it basically says "Fire? Is that your only trick, Chandra?" I mean...short answer? Yes. Long answer? Yes. That really is kind of her One Thing.
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JerryLee posted:I'm legit disappointed that the entire Gatewatch ate poo poo and not just Jace the only good member of the group is ajani, and he told them they were gonna get hosed so i'm glad of the events transpiring
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