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| Labour |
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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
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jBrereton posted:I doubt it very much. Theresa May's Government has no democratic legitimacy and it will be an outrage if she attempts anything as significant as Brexit negotiations without the confidence of the lower House. I will genuinely lose respect for the institutions of the EU if they don't just tell her to gently caress off on Monday.
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we know this is true because he's afraid of leaving the house
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Jun 17, 2017 11:35
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OwlFancier posted:Yes, I would vote for a tory minority government and then let it collapse on its own, personally. The bigger a majority that labour can secure the better, and the more the tories gently caress up brexit the better any Labour deal will look. It would be a right shitter if Labour got in and then burned all its goodwill trying to make brexit work. This is silly. The brexit deal will have such a lasting impact, if Labour can mitigate some of the damage by keeping workers protection and safety standards that you know the tories would take the chance to dump that's more important than the election game.
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Jun 17, 2017 11:36
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dispatch_async posted:Apparently one of the Kensington & Chelsea Councillors in charge of housing is Rock Hugo Basil Feilding-Mellen https://twitter.com/rhbfm His mother is a countess who is big into psychedelic drug research and drilled a hole in her head in the 70s. His dad is also into drilling holes into his head. Moms ran for parliament twice on the platform 'Trepanation for the National Health.' You can't make this poo poo up.
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Jun 17, 2017 11:36
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I like that May has either the option of letting Corbyn dictate what she does by polite letter writing campaign or refusing to pay for the funerals of dead children
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Jun 17, 2017 11:37
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Vitamin P posted:This is silly. The brexit deal will have such a lasting impact, if Labour can mitigate some of the damage by keeping workers protection and safety standards that you know the tories would take the chance to dump that's more important than the election game. I don't think that a Labour minority government could secure those either. A strong majority perhaps but even that, I think, would stand a reasonable chance of causing losses at the next GE, once Labour take government all the scrutiny is going to be on them, not the tories, they need to be in the strongest position they can be if they're going to enact any of the manifesto.
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Jun 17, 2017 11:38
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hakimashou posted:His mother is a countess who is big into psychedelic drug research and drilled a hole in her head in the 70s. His dad is also into drilling holes into his head. I can respect working for the trepanation of the posh.
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Jun 17, 2017 11:39
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Jose posted:it took may 8 weeks to go from the most popular PM ever to despised by the entire country lol
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Cerebral Bore posted:I can respect working for the trepanation of the posh. Username/post combo holy poo poo
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Jun 17, 2017 11:45
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ordinarily this would be a point where the Labour leader would carefully try to tack a line independent of sudden new with-friends-like-these - not open attacks, given the public mood, but not something which would open the party to criticism for endorsing largely-unvetted organisations should they turn out to have tons of skeletons in the closet, or should they suddenly do something foolish the Corbyn statement is well-finagled, in calling for full participation without committing to particular form or substance. likewise carefully dancing around the commitment to local-rehousing, thanks to Sharma's amazingly careless remark, without committing Labour to the same itself he may come to regret attacking the £5 million number if he is suddenly Prime Minister in a fortnight and turns out to be similarly unable to find more couch change, though
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Jun 17, 2017 11:46
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The queen, the poshest woman on earth, somehow managing to show more empathy than the government. Birthday message read “Today is traditionally a day of celebration. This year, however, it is difficult to escape a very sombre national mood. In recent months, the country has witnessed a succession of terrible tragedies. “As a nation, we continue to reflect and pray for all those who have been directly affected by these events.” https://mobile.twitter.com/SkyNews/...nger-grows-live
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Jun 17, 2017 11:47
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If May fails and there's another election, what would the election length be this time? Is the exact length mandated by that fancy new law you guys have? Also please have another election, us Yanks are rooting hard for Corbyn and you're making us feel something close to hope 
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Jun 17, 2017 11:48
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TACD posted:Wasn't the entire "May is most popular PM ever" thing based entirely off of a single poll result from a Tory-friendly pollster? It's always seemed incredibly iffy to me.
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ronya posted:ordinarily this would be a point where the Labour leader would carefully try to tack a line independent of sudden new with-friends-like-these - not open attacks, given the public mood, but not something which would open the party to criticism for endorsing largely-unvetted organisations should they turn out to have tons of skeletons in the closet, or should they suddenly do something foolish I think if it did turn out the tories had spent the national piggybank on champane parties and bullshit again, everyone would happily chip in a tenner to a gov run charity fund for the survivors if JC asked nice.
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Jun 17, 2017 11:52
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JosefStalinator posted:If May fails and there's another election, what would the election length be this time? Is the exact length mandated by that fancy new law you guys have? Got to have at least 25 working days between the call and the ballot, so 5 weeks at least.
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Jun 17, 2017 11:56
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Borrovan posted:Theresa May's Government has no democratic legitimacy and it will be an outrage if she attempts anything as significant as Brexit negotiations without the confidence of the lower House. I will genuinely lose respect for the institutions of the EU if they don't just tell her to gently caress off on Monday. Barnier told them to gently caress off and was openly discussing confidential matters last monday, I've honestly no idea why they announced they'd go back this early. One of the concerns he mentioned was the government wasn't able to provide a date for negotiations, but I think that was more a concern of competency than an attempt to troll britain into being told to gently caress off again which is definitely what will happen
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Jun 17, 2017 11:58
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JosefStalinator posted:If May fails and there's another election, what would the election length be this time? Is the exact length mandated by that fancy new law you guys have? You need at least 22 working days between the publication of notice of election and the poll itself but before that you have to dissolve parliament I think, and it's good practice to leave enough time that any business currently going through parliament can be wound up. It's pretty flexible but the governing party generally has an interest in keeping it as short as practicable. 6 weeks is the generated accepted minimum.
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ronya posted:ordinarily this would be a point where the Labour leader would carefully try to tack a line independent of sudden new with-friends-like-these - not open attacks, given the public mood, but not something which would open the party to criticism for endorsing largely-unvetted organisations should they turn out to have tons of skeletons in the closet, or should they suddenly do something foolish They're the loving government, they can borrow billions for next to nothing. The idea that they would be 'unable to find' a paltry few million is nonsensical. Do you believe in the national credit card too?
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Jun 17, 2017 11:59
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Dominic Raab wants an assistant but doesn't want to pay them Another great example of Tory class inequality. Lovely.
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Jun 17, 2017 12:00
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Realistically nothing substantive will be negotiated until after the German elections anyway, and what will be done will be the work of civil servants who won't change with the government. Another few weeks of election fever isn't the end of the world really
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Jun 17, 2017 12:01
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jabby posted:They're the loving government, they can borrow billions for next to nothing. The idea that they would be 'unable to find' a paltry few million is nonsensical. Do you believe in the national credit card too? the question is where do you put it? If you're ikeologically limited to market-based solutions there's not many places to spend millions of pounds in a useful way in a week. I feel that's already answered by being ideologically committed to nationalising Kensington though. It's a good answer, and those aren't bad assets. jBrereton posted:No, and it was not even long ago that she was more popular inside the Labour party than Corbyn. How times change! I feel I'm going to be able to use post-election rules Corbyn as a counterargument to "media propaganda isn't a major force" forever
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Jun 17, 2017 12:03
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I have to say, for all that we've been saying hope is not a lie any more, I don't think I truly believed it until I saw a sitting MP from the labour party tweet "burn neoliberalism" last night. I hope Clive Lewis succeeds Jeremy Corbyn as PM.
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Spangly A posted:I feel I'm going to be able to use post-election rules Corbyn as a counterargument to "media propaganda isn't a major force" forever
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Jun 17, 2017 12:06
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nothing to seehere posted:Got to have at least 25 working days between the call and the ballot, so 5 weeks at least. who chooses when the election is held if the government fails a no confidence vote though?
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Jun 17, 2017 12:09
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PST posted:He's also a property developer, bets on links between him and the companies involved? He wouldn't be in the council if he wasn't. Local Government is either run by property developer's or is made up of property developers.
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Jun 17, 2017 12:10
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PST posted:He's also a property developer, bets on links between him and the companies involved? I just want to add that I googled this a bit more, it seems there was a complaint made against him buying a house while taking 6 months out as a chancellor, in Grenfell, which then received a major value boost during the redevelopment of Greenfel. The complaint being, that since the councillor worked on the Grenfell redevelopment plans in 2009, he had access to priveleged information that concerned the future market value of the area. I wonder how hard the spin team would be working to stretch that just a little closer to "councillor put shiny flammable things on a building to flip a house for profit" if they hadn't just got fired. jBrereton posted:I would definitely agree with the pretty big caveat that I don't think I could name a worse current politician than May in terms of playing so awfully with the public as soon as there was any pressure on her. She's like Francois Hollande or something. maybe she should have an affair
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Jun 17, 2017 12:10
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Baron Corbyn posted:who chooses when the election is held if the government fails a no confidence vote though? Parliament didn't immediately get dissolved in 1979, they had a bit of wrap up and I assume the date of the election was set as part of that.
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Jun 17, 2017 12:13
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Spangly A posted:maybe she should have an affair
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jBrereton posted:Couldn't hurt at this point.
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Seaside Loafer posted:Leaked sex-tape maybe? Least it'd be showing she's more in touch with the common people than we thought.
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jabby posted:They're the loving government, they can borrow billions for next to nothing. The idea that they would be 'unable to find' a paltry few million is nonsensical. Do you believe in the national credit card too? no, I do believe that Prime Ministers and even whole Cabinets do not unilaterally pass budgets, though! May is probably raiding the DCLG budget for 5 million quid from some other fund, probably a sinking or maintenance fund; it is annoyingly difficult to identify exactly what statutory power she is basing this fund on. it is supposedly in addition to, rather than a political retitling of, existing Bellwin scheme funding if it turns out there's a money tree somewhere (cough cough), largely-Tory suburban councils will be lining up to ask why they cannot obtain anything more than Bellwin relief themselves from floods, whereas a London council can instantly get moolah from the PM herself
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Jun 17, 2017 12:24
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Wikipedia posted:There had been no serious injuries and no deaths.[2] Dean Lansdale, a decorator in the Private Chapel, burnt his hands while removing pictures, of which he rescued three or four. He was moved to the royal surgery and then to a hospital.[5] A royal spokesman denied reports in the media that Christopher Lloyd, the Surveyor of the Queen's Pictures, had suffered a heart attack.[7] Five firemen were taken to hospital with minor injuries.[2] a minute's silence please for Mr. Lansdale's hands
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Jun 17, 2017 12:25
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Oh hang on a second. I just worked out what's coming next. May is going to start claiming she's looking so stressed because of online/email abuse, with the death threats and the rape threats and the general horribleness because she's a woman.
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Jun 17, 2017 12:27
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In their majestic equality, the laws of physics permit rich and poor alike to be set on fire.
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Jun 17, 2017 12:27
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What absolute cunts. Unlike this guy: Reveilled posted:I have to say, for all that we've been saying hope is not a lie any more, I don't think I truly believed it until I saw a sitting MP from the labour party tweet "burn neoliberalism" last night. I hope Clive Lewis succeeds Jeremy Corbyn as PM. Clive Lewis was on the Last Leg last week, was given a bottle of wine and immediately started necking it. The man's got my vote.
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Jun 17, 2017 12:29
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Jun 17, 2017 12:31
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May is hosed in terms of public opinion but I'm worried they'll shamble on as a zombie government just to try and keep Corbyn out. That will really gently caress the Brexit negotiations too.
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