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| Labour |
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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
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ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:Jeremy Corbyn's first major infrastructure project is going to be building a jail purely to house all those responsible for this Misspelled gulag
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Jun 17, 2017 13:21
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JFairfax posted:The manufacturer of the panels used to clad the London tower block where at least 30 people died in a fire this week advised customers against using its polyethylene-cored tiles — the ones reportedly used at Grenfell Tower — in high-rise buildings. This could be very significant. I'm not sure if pointing to the building regs would save you if you've installed something specifically against the manufacturer's recommendations.
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Jun 17, 2017 13:21
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ronya posted:hot take time: when Prime Minister Corbyn tries to pass a budget, he's going to have a very narrow majority He's going to beat Blair.
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Jun 17, 2017 13:23
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"Who doesn't care about Julian" cry me a loving river.
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Jun 17, 2017 13:23
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Spangly A posted:He's going to beat Blair. he's going to be dependent on SNP MPs e: wouldn't it be funny if this is what allows a sitting government to pass proportional representation?
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Jun 17, 2017 13:24
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ronya posted:he's going to be dependent on SNP MPs The tories held on with an over 65 turnout of 80%. The level of voter suppression they are committing right now is incredible. He's going to beat Blair.
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Jun 17, 2017 13:25
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An election next week would see a labour majority. In 9-12 weeks who the gently caress knows, because no one saw the last election results coming a couple of months beforehand. If I was a tory with a really solid majority, i'd be pushing for a new election, counting on surviving and (from my perspective) picking up the pieces of Brexit in 2022. More likely we'll see some kneejerk reaction from the crazy wing of the party leading to a vote of no confidence next year and conservative chaos as they''re both fighting internally and fighting an election at the same time. Possibly also flying monkeys, rollerskates and yo-yos making a come back because everything old is new again
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Jun 17, 2017 13:28
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jabby posted:This could be very significant. I'm not sure if pointing to the building regs would save you if you've installed something specifically against the manufacturer's recommendations. I think people saying "the building regs say this is OK" have missed the point - they don't explicitly say that cladding has to be fire proof, but the document everybody uses (https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/485420/BR_PDF_AD_B1_2013.pdf) says: "The external walls of the building shall adequately resist the spread of fire over the walls and from one building to another, having regard to the height, use and position of the building."
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Jun 17, 2017 13:28
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Spangly A posted:The tories held on with an over 65 turnout of 80%. The level of voter suppression they are committing right now is incredible. do you mean in like, percentage of Labour seats, or in some alternative measurement which does not actually translate to Labour seats
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Jun 17, 2017 13:33
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i posted this because i thought it was funny wikileaks would quote pamela anderson but holy poo poo you retards actually think the uk is right on this
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Jun 17, 2017 13:33
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Maya Fey posted:i posted this because i thought it was funny wikileaks would quote pamela anderson but holy poo poo you retards actually think the uk is right on this We just think Assange is wrong
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Jun 17, 2017 13:34
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Namtab posted:No, we should absolutely make it political. That's kind of what I was getting at.
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Jun 17, 2017 13:34
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ronya posted:do you mean in like, percentage of Labour seats, or in some alternative measurement which does not actually translate to Labour seats He means physically with a sock full of old-style one pound coins.
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Jun 17, 2017 13:35
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Blinks77 posted:Let's not go overboard here. He parlayed a lovely minority government into a coalition which gave next to nothing up in exchange for five years of government. The one thing he did concede, an AV referendum, he proceeded to utterly obliterate and that in addition to deviously clever dealmaking forced his junior partner to commit loving seppiku. He then gambled again on a Scottish referendum, which he won, and in doing so completely replaced 50 odd safe Labour seats with a party that by definition can never challenge the Conservative domination over Parliament. He pushed through more austerity then May would ever dream of during this period, letting Gideon cut so severely that it amounted to a de-facto reduction of council power as they were forced to make incredibly unpopular cuts to services that they took the blame for. He's an absolute shithead, but as a PM up to his second election he was pretty loving good at accomplishing his goals. It's just that his goals were monstrous. And then, well, there's no Judas half as traitorous nor venom half as deadly as hubris . And so we're here.
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Jun 17, 2017 13:35
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Thanks Ants posted:We just think Assange is wrong about what
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Jun 17, 2017 13:35
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Maya Fey posted:i posted this because i thought it was funny wikileaks would quote pamela anderson but holy poo poo you retards actually think the uk is right on this On not caring about Assange? Absolutely. He's a toad, he broke the law, let him get his 12-18 month suspended sentence for it.
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Jun 17, 2017 13:35
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PST posted:On not caring about Assange? Absolutely. He's a toad, he broke the law, let him get his 12-18 month suspended sentence for it. spending millions to make sure he doesn't leave = not caring. sure
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Jun 17, 2017 13:37
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https://mobile.twitter.com/TazerBla...fell-tower-fire Thiscwas last night. People from all parts of the community, all faiths, being together in solidarity and breaking the ramadan fast together.
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Jun 17, 2017 13:37
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Maya Fey posted:about what e: Also, the reason Sweden dropped the case (he didn't "win") is that he loving hid so they couldn't interview him.
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Jun 17, 2017 13:37
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Blinks77 posted:Let's not go overboard here. All the really culpable deeds here - austerity, the scrapping of housing regs, the cutting of fire services, etc - happened under Cameron. No one is worse. They were all in it together.
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Jun 17, 2017 13:38
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Maya Fey posted:i posted this because i thought it was funny wikileaks would quote pamela anderson but holy poo poo you retards actually think the uk is right on this We have actually horrific poo poo to care about like hundreds of people being burned alive due to insane negligence, nobody cares about the Wikileaks rear end in a top hat who locked himself in a store cupboard for five years.
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Jun 17, 2017 13:38
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Maya Fey posted:spending millions to make sure he doesn't leave = not caring. sure We stopped doing that ages ago. He's a lickspittle for Putin and a self-aggrandizing dickhead. Absent the current government, those tend to get short shrift in the British consciousness.
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Jun 17, 2017 13:38
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ronya posted:do you mean in like, percentage of Labour seats, or in some alternative measurement which does not actually translate to Labour seats he's going to get 420 seats. e; I had actually forgotten that 97 was 418 and not 412, and I think 415 is doable. The tories are going to run with an entirely different electoral cancer and the press are going to dutifully do too little, too late propping up the campaign to matter. The damage is done.
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Jun 17, 2017 13:38
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Thanks Ants posted:I think people saying "the building regs say this is OK" have missed the point - they don't explicitly say that cladding has to be fire proof, but the document everybody uses (https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/485420/BR_PDF_AD_B1_2013.pdf) says: Yeah this strongly implies a lot of people might be hosed. Gonna be hard to argue these panels 'adequately resisted' the spread of fire when the manufacturer says you shouldn't use them.
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Jun 17, 2017 13:40
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Maya Fey posted:spending millions to make sure he doesn't leave = not caring. sure What? He's in there because he's a big baby who doesn't want to get arrested.
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Jun 17, 2017 13:46
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Maya Fey posted:about what And even if you support Wikileaks original aim of holding governments to account through transparency, it is clear now that they have a very close relationship with the Russian Government and are in effect doing their bidding. It's telling that a Wikileaks leak was once reported on Russia Today's website before it had even been released or announced on Wikileaks' website. He is also a hugely smug, self-important prick.
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Jun 17, 2017 13:47
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Jun 17, 2017 13:50
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jBrereton posted:No, and it was not even long ago that she was more popular inside the Labour party than Corbyn. How times change!
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Jun 17, 2017 13:50
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Radio 4s book of the week last week was Assanges ghost writer for his autobiography book about how hard it was working with him. It's quite possible that it is just a long winded hit piece from an ex co-worker with a grudge but it really doesn't paint Assange in a good light, generally or about the accusations.
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Jun 17, 2017 13:51
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jabby posted:Yeah this strongly implies a lot of people might be hosed. Gonna be hard to argue these panels 'adequately resisted' the spread of fire when the manufacturer says you shouldn't use them. Hopefully the result of this will be legislation that requires a demonstration that a combination of materials/products is suitably fireproof through building a mockup and testing it, rather than relying on the datasheets of each component and going "well it's not illegal". Yeah it will lead to "  but this is pushing costs up for developers" but they've proven that they can't be trusted so gently caress em.
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Jun 17, 2017 13:52
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Somehow I suspect trying to burn down scale models of buildings won't be a high a grade test as you seem to think. There's lots of variables that you just can't miniturise.
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Jun 17, 2017 13:55
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Rachel Johnson: 'Theresa May Is A Victim Of The Grenfell Fire As Well'
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Jun 17, 2017 13:58
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This is good for Theresa May.
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Jun 17, 2017 13:59
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I was more going for building a section of the fascia rather than a scale model but I take your point about the variables such as wind that can't always be reproduced in a test. What I was more getting at was the need to prove something is safe rather than assuming it's safe because there's no evidence otherwise. Though in this case it seems like the manufacturer knew the panels weren't suitable for tall buildings and that was ignored. Hopefully the investigation can determine where those details were ignored/missed/overridden. Edit: I expected that to be a Guardian piece based on the headline.
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Jun 17, 2017 13:59
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So May is meeting residents inside Downing Street, away from cameras. I don't think she realises the damage has been done. People needed to see her on the streets, not just read in the paper that she summoned some poors to Number 10 to show them her sympathy grimace.
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Jun 17, 2017 13:59
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I heard a couple of minutes of Ken Clarke on any questions just now and I don't think he's completely compos mentis anymore.
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Jun 17, 2017 14:01
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jabby posted:So May is meeting residents inside Downing Street, away from cameras. I'm imagining her in a conference room at the far end of the long table, the are walls flanked with rows of blank faced security and all the other chairs are down the opposite end. A single glass of water sits in front of May. None for the visitors. Most of the meeting will consist of her staring at them, sipping her water in silence as a grandfather clock loudly ticks and tocks.
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Jun 17, 2017 14:06
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She does know "sick burns" is a figurative term, right?
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Jun 17, 2017 14:08
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I'm imagining the victims coming out. Crying in front of the reporters "she... she say anything but strong and stable.... again and again"
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