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Labour | 907 | 49.92% | |
Theresa May Team (Conservative) | 48 | 2.64% | |
Liberal Democrats | 31 | 1.71% | |
UKIP | 13 | 0.72% | |
Plaid Cymru | 25 | 1.38% | |
Green | 22 | 1.21% | |
Scottish Socialist Party | 12 | 0.66% | |
Scottish Conservative Party | 1 | 0.06% | |
Scottish National Party | 59 | 3.25% | |
Some Kind of Irish Unionist | 4 | 0.22% | |
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian | 3 | 0.17% | |
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist | 36 | 1.98% | |
Misc. Far Left Trots | 35 | 1.93% | |
Misc. Far Right Fash | 8 | 0.44% | |
Monster Raving Loony | 49 | 2.70% | |
Space Navies Party | 39 | 2.15% | |
Independent / Single Issue | 2 | 0.11% | |
Can't Vote | 188 | 10.35% | |
Won't Vote | 8 | 0.44% | |
Spoiled Ballot | 15 | 0.83% | |
Pissflaps | 312 | 17.17% | |
Total: | 1817 votes |
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Windsor Castle had its own dedicated fire brigade & a working fire alarm. loving bootlicker.
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# ? Jun 17, 2017 15:16 |
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In more upbeat news...quote:Hello and welcome to Stannington Ward Labour Party which is one of the 5 wards which go to make up Hallam Constituency Labour Party.
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# ? Jun 17, 2017 15:19 |
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Obliterati posted:Guys They think Incorrect thoughts comrade.
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# ? Jun 17, 2017 15:21 |
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feedmegin posted:They think Incorrect thoughts comrade. I smell some reeducation coming
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# ? Jun 17, 2017 15:32 |
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https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/876086380861898752 Confirming what we all sadly knew.
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# ? Jun 17, 2017 15:40 |
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dex_sda posted:I smell some reeducation coming In the case of The Express it's just education.
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# ? Jun 17, 2017 15:41 |
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Gonzo McFee posted:Have all the Tories just forgotten how to hide their true faces? Didn't she join the Lib Dems because of Brexit?
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# ? Jun 17, 2017 15:43 |
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Graun posted:Kensington and Chelsea council and tenants management organisation did not respond to more than 130 offers to put up displaced residents of Grenfell Tower and its neighbouring blocks, a volunteer who came to assist in the relief efforts has said. How are they so bad at this
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# ? Jun 17, 2017 15:43 |
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Cerv posted:Didn't she join the Lib Dems because of Brexit? So the Tories with dumber slogans.
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# ? Jun 17, 2017 15:44 |
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Tesseraction posted:How are they so bad at this
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# ? Jun 17, 2017 15:45 |
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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/16/sun-journalist-grenfell-tower-victim-hospital What cunts. King’s College hospital is to lodge a complaint with the press watchdog over a journalist who allegedly impersonated a friend of a victim of the Grenfell Tower fire in order to get an interview with him. The hospital is to file a complaint with the Independent Press Standards Organisation (Ipso) about the behaviour of the Sun reporter.
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# ? Jun 17, 2017 15:48 |
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Tesseraction posted:How are they so bad at this liability liability liability
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# ? Jun 17, 2017 15:54 |
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ronya posted:liability liability liability Somehow if something went wrong at this point it would still be a net gain in optics compared to their current tactic.
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# ? Jun 17, 2017 15:57 |
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ronya posted:liability liability liability Then that's why you release a statement on the subject (ideally with an explanation of what you're going to do for these people instead), rather than further contributing to the 'hiding from the public' narrative.
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# ? Jun 17, 2017 16:01 |
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Guavanaut posted:There is an argument that the combination of EU environmental targets and bans on certain halogen containing fire retardants promoted use of less safe materials in some areas, but we've largely got around that now with better fire retardants, and the existence of fire resistant cladding shoots down the idea that it has anything to do with Grenfell. AIUI (from chatter on my local FB group from understandably concerned people living in both new-build and renovated high rises) rock wool gives better performance than PU or PET insulation and is completely fireproof - and, notably, was being used on all the insulation/beautification upgrades to tower blocks in London from the mid-90s until about 2009, and nobody's quite sure if there was an actual change to the regs or not then, but everyone moved to plastic insulation. I have the weirdest suspicion it wasn't actually a change to regs, just that the plummeting oil price made the price difference between the two much more distinct.
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# ? Jun 17, 2017 16:03 |
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taking on liability for people you already had liability for before you got their house burnt down, is not really a defence for deciding that they can just be homeless. They aren't being cautious, they're hacking away at the moral mandate for their own system of governance. Give it a week and the process wil self-organise out of sheer frustration; the government are still going to be accountable for anything that happens then, because they're the loving government, and it is both their fault and their job. All they're doing is making it clear they are not a legitimate council, or party of government, because the loving anarchists are about to just upstage them. If they try to interfere with, or delay, or fail to cooperate with the immediate rehoming of these people, they should be removed from authority with violent contempt.
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# ? Jun 17, 2017 16:05 |
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When I was a postgrad in Manchester I lived in a refurbed tower block that had cladding on the outside. It didn't remotely look like the same thing as Grenfell but now I wonder what the gently caress it was made out of.
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# ? Jun 17, 2017 16:06 |
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Ewan posted:https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/16/sun-journalist-grenfell-tower-victim-hospital Milly Dowler? Nah, never heard of her.
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# ? Jun 17, 2017 16:10 |
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header taken from this
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# ? Jun 17, 2017 16:11 |
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Gorn Myson posted:£5 says that the Mail's outrage is mostly driven by the fire causing a decline in house prices in the area. that'd be silly given that it'll only last until the tower is knocked down and the social housing is inevitably replaced with more luxury housing for absentee billionaires
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# ? Jun 17, 2017 16:17 |
ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:
drat, that's brutalist.
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# ? Jun 17, 2017 16:22 |
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goddamnedtwisto posted:AIUI (from chatter on my local FB group from understandably concerned people living in both new-build and renovated high rises) rock wool gives better performance than PU or PET insulation and is completely fireproof - and, notably, was being used on all the insulation/beautification upgrades to tower blocks in London from the mid-90s until about 2009, and nobody's quite sure if there was an actual change to the regs or not then, but everyone moved to plastic insulation. possibly related to this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CLP_Regulation quote:The European directive 97/69/EC replaced by the regulation (EC) n° 1272/2008 concerning the classification, labelling and packaging of the substance and the mixtures does not classify glass fibres as hazardous, if they are in compliance with the note Q of
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# ? Jun 17, 2017 16:22 |
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how times change
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# ? Jun 17, 2017 16:26 |
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https://twitter.com/metoffice/status/876083131572510720
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# ? Jun 17, 2017 16:27 |
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happyhippy posted:Milly Dowler? Nah, never heard of her. We are appalled, simply appalled, at the actions of our now ex-employee. So appalled, in fact, that we are making him delete all of his emails and strip searching him for flashdrives and SD cards before he leaves the building. It's an extreme step, but we believe it is the only moral course of action.
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# ? Jun 17, 2017 16:28 |
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and it can get to gently caress
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# ? Jun 17, 2017 16:29 |
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gently caress the sun.
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# ? Jun 17, 2017 16:30 |
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It's been a bit mild and cloudy in London.
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# ? Jun 17, 2017 16:31 |
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:drat, that's brutalist. If Corbyn was an attack-ad type this would probably sink the Tories once and for all, especially as their biggest blowhards whining about it about it would be pricks like Fat Saville (Twitter recommends calling Boris Johnson this) who could instantly be put in an attack ad where they told people worried about fire safety being told to get stuffed.
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# ? Jun 17, 2017 16:31 |
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ronya posted:possibly related to this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CLP_Regulation Maybe, could have led to the plastics dropping into a different hazard criteria - I#m not sure if the section you mention applies because it seems to be saying that rock wool is now considered safe(r) than under the old regs. (Actually I'm a little worried generally now because I know they used shitloads of the stuff in the renovation of my office's HVAC and chatting to the guys doing it they mentioned it was a lot safer if it gets damaged than the older glass fibre insulation they were replacing)
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# ? Jun 17, 2017 16:33 |
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Steve2911 posted:It's been a bit mild and cloudy in London. Maybe in your bit of London but over here in the bizarre microclimate of E14 it's 32 degrees and bright sunshine in my garden, so I've been using the opportunity to do manual labour because I am a complete loving idiot.
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# ? Jun 17, 2017 16:35 |
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:When I was a postgrad in Manchester I lived in a refurbed tower block that had cladding on the outside. It didn't remotely look like the same thing as Grenfell but now I wonder what the gently caress it was made out of. A friend of the family lives about 50 yards away from a massive high-rise that had its whole exterior redone recently, only finished a few months ago. Looks almost identical to Grenfell and apparently it's had firemen and inspectors looking around almost every day since.
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# ? Jun 17, 2017 16:35 |
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I'm so worried for this country I've been playing democracy 3 instead of going outside to see what a socialist government would look like. In 5 attempts I have been assassinated 2 years in by the battenburg group .
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# ? Jun 17, 2017 16:35 |
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communism bitch posted:gently caress the sun. Sounds hot.
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# ? Jun 17, 2017 16:36 |
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Mugsbaloney posted:I'm so worried for this country I've been playing democracy 3 instead of going outside to see what a socialist government would look like. In 5 attempts I have been assassinated 2 years in by the battenburg group . I turned Britain into a socialist democracy with ease. I tried to raise corporation tax in Australia and got paramilitaried. Seems accurate.
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# ? Jun 17, 2017 16:37 |
The Sun is going to continue on with the whole "none of our reporters were involved" argument, mostly because after the whole phone hacking thing they on the quiet moved a lot of reporters that previously would have been staff reporters onto freelance contracts so they could have deniability that anything illegal they did was at the orders of the editorial or the Sun in general. Despite you know them still having desks at the offices and Sun email addresses.
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# ? Jun 17, 2017 16:37 |
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Mugsbaloney posted:I'm so worried for this country I've been playing democracy 3 instead of going outside to see what a socialist government would look like. In 5 attempts I have been assassinated 2 years in by the battenburg group . you need to go full 1984 straight away and hold off on really pissing off the capitalists until your security services are able to black bag them the moment they even begin to think about a coup
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# ? Jun 17, 2017 16:40 |
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Skinty McEdger posted:The Sun is going to continue on with the whole "none of our reporters were involved" argument, mostly because after the whole phone hacking thing they on the quiet moved a lot of reporters that previously would have been staff reporters onto freelance contracts so they could have deniability that anything illegal they did was at the orders of the editorial or the Sun in general. Despite you know them still having desks at the offices and Sun email addresses. gently caress the sun, and gently caress the Sun.
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# ? Jun 17, 2017 16:42 |
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Spangly A posted:taking on liability for people you already had liability for before you got their house burnt down, is not really a defence for deciding that they can just be homeless. They aren't being cautious, they're hacking away at the moral mandate for their own system of governance. Give it a week and the process wil self-organise out of sheer frustration; the government are still going to be accountable for anything that happens then, because they're the loving government, and it is both their fault and their job. All they're doing is making it clear they are not a legitimate council, or party of government, because the loving anarchists are about to just upstage them. If they try to interfere with, or delay, or fail to cooperate with the immediate rehoming of these people, they should be removed from authority with violent contempt. aha, but observe the wonder of devolved and separated powers: nobody turns out to be liable for both council-level general welfare, tenant electoral interests and legal interests of the management organisation at the same time instead the tenant management organisation has multiple tenant elected representatives on the board, who in sum theoretically embody the interests of the tenants, but in actuality are unlikely to have the inclination to hold a permanent staff accountable for anything, or the competency to do so. "so let's go through twenty pages of already-PwC-audited financial figures for the past year.... *twenty eyeballs glaze over* ok, can I have two signatures? Okay, sign here and here. Next item..." conversely some tenants in some blocks themselves complain and complain, but oddly enough are unable to elect tenants who share their concerns to said board, or convince any of the incumbent tenant representatives. and so what if they take their complaints to the council? in the bold new british age of Local Democracy, a local authority must let tenants who vote to self-manage embark on a such a glorious adventure anyway. whatchu gonna do? and last, the permanent staff find themselves under the perpetual eye of suspicion from council, tenant, and directors alike, and a culture of mutual contempt and empathy fatigue takes root
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Saddiq Khan aint coming off too well in this either
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# ? Jun 17, 2017 16:43 |