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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013


wherethefuckisyourchin.jpg

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forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


OwlFancier posted:

wherethefuckisyourchin.jpg

Chins are for plebs.

R. Mute
Jul 27, 2011

coffeetable posted:

I've been meaning to do an ~effective altruism~ post for a while. Haven't got time for the full thing now, but here's a cliffnotes:
  • Donating anything to charity is a good thing, whatever the charity
  • But some charities are far more effective in using your money to improve the world than others
  • Like, hundreds or thousands of times better
  • If what you're trying to do with your charity is save lives/reduce suffering/etc, then GiveWell has done a giant pile of research on where to get the best bang for your buck.
  • Long story short, their recommendations are mosquito nets (~$3000/life saved equivalent) and deworming tablets (~$1000/life saved equivalent).
  • Their website has a lot of details, but if you're a numbers person then maybe jump right to the spreadsheet.
Personally I put 10% towards demorming and I hope it'll be more in future.
Good post, but I'd also like to ask everyone to spare a thought (and a pound) for the less "sexy" charities. I was manning an info booth for one of those at a hippy festival the other week. They're an organisation that focuses on improving healthcare in a couple of African countries - but they don't focus on a specific disease, they don't build hospitals, none of that. They're all about organising transport/access to healthcare, setting up healthcare funds, providing additional training for local medical staff, sharing knowledge - real broad structural stuff. Hard to measure, but incredibly vital. A big part of their goal is to not only keep people alive, but to also make sure staying alive doesn't cost them everything they own.

And apparently, they're having real problems selling it to people here. People like to see either the big problems or clear goals like mosquito nets and deworming tablets - and that's fine, but there are plenty of charities/NGOs out there that do vital work that don't fall under those categories and they need some attention as well. It's gotten to a point where their latest campaign was decided based on getting around that issue - it's about maternal mortality, moms and babies dying and all that - which apparently was the source of a lot of controversy among the staff. But that's where they're at, it seems.

So what I'm saying is definitely think about which charity you donate money to, like you said, but also consider giving to the bland ones from time to time.

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Personally I put 10% towards demorming and I hope it'll be more in future.
Hopefully this will make a difference in the fight against global mormonism.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


So, uh.

https://twitter.com/guardian/status/876193405243719681

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

feedmegin posted:

Afaik the only state in the Union without helmet laws is Ohio.

Nooope.



The green ones have mandatory helmet laws for all riders. Most of the blue ones are "Helmet optional for adults". And for many of the mandatory ones they don't actually have to be approved helmets so poo poo like this:



is perfectly legal.

Skinty McEdger
Mar 9, 2008

I have NEVER received the respect I deserve as the leader and founder of The Masterflock, the internet's largest and oldest Christopher Masterpiece fan group in all of history, and I DEMAND that changes. From now on, you will respect Skinty McEdger!


Thats loving shameless.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
i saw a bloke in texas doing 90 on a motorbike wearing shorts, tshirt, flip flops and sunglasses. i wonder if he's still alive

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes
Avoiding the next speech will give Liz much more time to stay at home and think about Brexit.

Vitamin P
Nov 19, 2013

Truth is game rigging is more difficult than it looks pls stay ded

Skinty McEdger posted:

Thats loving shameless.

I'm not understanding the implications, it just seems weird to me not sinister.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Jose posted:

i saw a bloke in texas doing 90 on a motorbike wearing shorts, tshirt, flip flops and sunglasses. i wonder if he's still alive

This is the one I've never understood. I've ridden without most safety equipment at various points and as loving stupid as it is I can understand why people would claim riding with no jacket or gloves is more comfortable (it's really not once you're doing any kind of speed but whatever).

However your feet on almost any motorbike are within centimetres of very hot bits of metal and changing gear involves kicking a bit of metal that requires a fair amount of force and can occasionally kick back. It's loving agony even in trainers or normal shoes, how people can even begin to believe it's more comfortable to go effectively barefoot on one stretches pretty deep into kink territory.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Vitamin P posted:

I'm not understanding the implications, it just seems weird to me not sinister.

Avoids another confidence vote next year.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Vitamin P posted:

I'm not understanding the implications, it just seems weird to me not sinister.

If I understand it correctly, normally parliament is dissolved and reopened once a year, they're not doing it next year, though I don't know that it has any substantial effect on the government's stability as I don't believe the government has to reaffirm its legitimacy each year.

Skinty McEdger
Mar 9, 2008

I have NEVER received the respect I deserve as the leader and founder of The Masterflock, the internet's largest and oldest Christopher Masterpiece fan group in all of history, and I DEMAND that changes. From now on, you will respect Skinty McEdger!

OwlFancier posted:

If I understand it correctly, normally parliament is dissolved and reopened once a year, they're not doing it next year, though I don't know that it has any substantial effect on the government's stability as I don't believe the government has to reaffirm its legitimacy each year.

There's still a vote that follows each Queens speech, not just the first one of a term of office, that counts as a confidence vote (or rather now under the fixed term act would lead to a confidence vote). They just managed to cut out having a confidence vote next year, which if say you're a weak minority government would probably be a good idea.

Edit: I mean they still have to past budgets, but they managed to get past what could be an awkward situation.

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
What happens if the monarch dies during a parliaments term? Do they need to have another speech with the new one?

Irony Be My Shield
Jul 29, 2012

That's assuming the DUP blink and vote for this speech even though their demands have been rejected.

Skinty McEdger
Mar 9, 2008

I have NEVER received the respect I deserve as the leader and founder of The Masterflock, the internet's largest and oldest Christopher Masterpiece fan group in all of history, and I DEMAND that changes. From now on, you will respect Skinty McEdger!

JFairfax posted:

What happens if the monarch dies during a parliaments term? Do they need to have another speech with the new one?

The existing speech would still be valid until the start of the new session, but you would have the new monarch come to the house to have the mp's swear allegiance to them. Though the tradition in this case is for the MP's to cross their fingers behind their backs while they do so (I have no idea why they do that).

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

https://twitter.com/ST_Newsroom/status/876187607268544514
https://twitter.com/BBCHelenaLee/status/876180034805014534

The Times posted:

A cabinet minister told friends he was "worried about her state of mind".

I don't think May is going to last much longer.

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



Skinty McEdger posted:

The existing speech would still be valid until the start of the new session, but you would have the new monarch come to the house to have the mp's swear allegiance to them. Though the tradition in this case is for the MP's to cross their fingers behind their backs while they do so (I have no idea why they do that).

Monarchy is a loving stupid concept.

Reveilled
Apr 19, 2007

Take up your rifles

Honestly I think a horse could do a better job. Glitterhoof for PM.

Raeg
Jul 7, 2008

The top 1% of ducks have control of 99.9% of the bread.

Reveilled posted:

Honestly I think a horse could do a better job. Glitterhoof for PM.

Shergar is back to create a strong and stable government in the national interest.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Findus lasagne for PM

Playstation 4
Apr 25, 2014
Unlockable Ben

Steve2911 posted:

Monarchy is a loving stupid concept.

Regicide is a moral good.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

jabby posted:

I don't think May is going to last much longer.

The Tories keep acting like nothing is wrong. I know that's spin but it makes me nervous.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Steve2911 posted:

Monarchy is a loving stupid concept.
I vote for duoarchy with whoever is the current President of Ireland and whoever is the current Bishop of Berwick being co-princes of the United Kingdom.

Saint Isaias Boner
Jan 17, 2007

hi how are you

Regarde Aduck posted:

The Tories keep acting like nothing is wrong. I know that's spin but it makes me nervous.

what else are they going to do? it's not like labour where they had leadership challengers readying their campaigns to launch immediately after the election.

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

Our Lovely Wang
Fair point, just a few weeks ago it looked like she had all her opponents completely out gunned. It would have been mad for them to consider trying anything.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer
Brexit happened, Trump happened, Corbyn happened, why not one more surprise and we have a zombie party limp on with 2% approval for 4 more years.

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

It seems like May has actually lost her mind. Like, she seems to be actually going nuts at her failure.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

I can understand this.
After all, don't want Brenda to have to stand up and say 'The very naughty men from France, Netherlands, Spain, Italy, won't let us fish in the areas we did before.'.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh

CoolCab posted:

Do you guys all have roommates or SOs you live with or something? I'm living in one of the cheapest "cities" in England and my (relatively spacious admittedly) one bedroom flat with council tax, water, electricity and internet comes to way more then £500 a month, and I'm extremely savvy with changing utilities, finding as many discounts as possible and (as I'm Canadian) literally never using a heater,

Average price in the Derbyshire town with great transport links I just moved from, has average rental prices of £420 a month for a three bed semi all of your own. If you want a lovely two bed flat with underground secure parking which is next to the station/centre of town, and is on a restored canal it's about £300 fully furnished because they converted too many warehouses for a office working demographic that does not exist.

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

Murderion posted:

One of the times I was out of work, I found one of those on the DWP's own jobsearch website. Or rather, about fifty ads, all for the same job, written in such a way as to show up on pretty much any keyword search (ie, looking for people with experience in customer service, retail, cleaning, bar work, security, you name it). I fired off an application (because hey, counts as an action for the weekly jobseeker's report), and got a reply by phone suspiciously quickly, from the head honcho herself. I agreed, because hey, an interview would probably get the advisor off my back for the week and it got me out of the house. Plus, there was a chance it could have been legit (no there wasn't).

So I show up to a very clearly temporary rented office in a nice building, asking the receptionist on the way in if it was a pyramid scheme (answer being "I dunno, they just rent the place by the hour"). It's near the back of the third floor with no windows, but they've got their own receptionist, which is a nice touch. Absolutely no signs of permanent habitation anywhere, not so much as a photo on the desks. I go in for the interview, and if I wasn't already paranoid alarm bells would have started ringing when she started acting like I already had the job. The few questions I answered brutally honestly (all my experience is straight up customer service, I couldn't sell water in the desert), and she started selling me on the wonders of cold selling... something in shopping centres and lovely retail parks as far away as glorious Cessnock. I pretty much had to interrupt to ask what the wage was. When she said (surprise, surprise) it was 100% commission based, I called her a soulless monster and gave her a ten minute long lecture on how despicable she was for preying on the hopes and dreams of the truly desperate said this wasn't the job for me, shook her hand, and left. I did see the one other person there for the interview (who I'd shared my doubts with before going in) asking the receptionist if this had anything to do with bar work at all, then leave after being told it wasn't. :laugh:

So that's my :words: experience of the commission only scam industry. The saddest thing is that particular pyramid scheme doesn't kick in proper until you reach management level. They're encouraged to set up their own branched off, and do a bunch of shady poo poo like front up ten grand of their own money to set up the company accounts. I'll try to find the sources I did when I looked into it (because again, I was unemployed, bored and genuinely had nothing better to do) if people are interested.

I think this is probably literally the same group, right down to the ~fantastic opportunity~ to become a business owner (by opening the next tier of pyramid scheme).

Trickjaw posted:

Agreed. Awful, awful cons that prey on the weak and still, both staff and marks.

Mr Phillby posted:

I had one of theses too. I applied for a listing for trainee insulation fitters and it was only after they bundled me into a car and had driven me to another town to shadow one of their workers for the day did the reveal the job was actually door-knocking to flog talk.talk broadband.

It was a weird as gently caress company, everyone I met elusively referred to me as 'buddy' and had an almost pathological hatred for British Telecom. they had me fill out a questionnaire that was full of loaded questions that were very obviously meant to lead me to the conclusion that face to face doorstop selling is cool and good and being paid exclusively on commission just really makes a lot of sense.

It was terrifyingly cultlike, too. Like, 90% of it was spooky indoctrinational repeating of mantras and talking about "positive attitude". Also they believe there's only six kinds of technology and one of them's mobile phones.

Deptfordx
Dec 23, 2013

Reveilled posted:

Honestly I think a horse could do a better job. Glitterhoof for PM.

Incitatus for PM!

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

Night10194 posted:

It seems like May has actually lost her mind. Like, she seems to be actually going nuts at her failure.

Corbyn was slandered every which way by his party, but I don't remember seeing a cabinet minister actually questioning his mental state on the front page of the Times before.

Regarde Aduck posted:

The Tories keep acting like nothing is wrong. I know that's spin but it makes me nervous.

Phillip Hammond is doing both Marr and Peston tomorrow. Hammond doesn't even like May, and was expected to lose his job in the reshuffle. The fact that he's doing both major political programs is probably a sign that it's chaos behind the scenes and they can't find two people who can go on and not cause a major gently caress-up.

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem

learnincurve posted:

Average price in the Derbyshire town with great transport links I just moved from, has average rental prices of £420 a month for a three bed semi all of your own. If you want a lovely two bed flat with underground secure parking which is next to the station/centre of town, and is on a restored canal it's about £300 fully furnished because they converted too many warehouses for a office working demographic that does not exist.

Man, is Carlisle somehow really highly priced? I couldn't find anything less then 325 except total dumps (a converted basement that was one medium sized room with a single window acting as the bedroom and living room +tiny bathroom and kitchenette with one window was 325) or missing expensive things like a fridge and washing machine and we looked for months. I can't drive and don't own a car and the public transport around here is both terrible and expensive, so I prioritized something within walking distance to my work- man, maybe I should move to a better city.

Or Corbyn could get in and I could go back and get my degree :unsmith:

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

Heck yeah!

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

spectralent posted:

It was terrifyingly cultlike, too. Like, 90% of it was spooky indoctrinational repeating of mantras and talking about "positive attitude". Also they believe there's only six kinds of technology and one of them's mobile phones.
If one of the other 5 technologies was '81s' then I'm certain that you've found a lost tribe of GPO employees of some type.

dex_sda
Oct 11, 2012


goddamnedtwisto posted:

Actually yeah if it's at all feasible you should all be blood donors too. An hour out of your day 3 or 4 times a year, and you get choccy biscuits. They even text you letting you know when and where your donation gets used, which is a genuinely amazing feeling.

in my country we get fully paid days off for donating blood. 6 extra days off a year!

Coohoolin
Aug 5, 2012

Oor Coohoolie.

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Yeah it actually bothers me quite a bit, this is the house I grew up in and I really don't want to move away - my neighbours are cool, the area's nice enough, and I might actually have the closest proper garden to Canary Wharf, but at the same time I feel like I'm sort of squatting here because it should be a family home - but no family I'd be happy with moving in could possibly afford it if I sold it on, it would just go to a BtR shitlord.

Open it as a squat to struggling musicians.

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WeAreTheRomans
Feb 23, 2010

by R. Guyovich

Guavanaut posted:

I vote for duoarchy with whoever is the current President of Ireland and whoever is the current Bishop of Berwick being co-princes of the United Kingdom.

Michael D Higgins would make a fantastic ruler

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