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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is: This poll is closed. |
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| Labour |
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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
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Sorry comrades but any beemers and teslas will be reappropriated come the jezolution.
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Water from a bucket onto a grease fire sounds way more dangerous than onto an electrical fire. Wouldn't that spread the fire a fuckload? Spreads it, but also tends to make it less hot. If water is all you got, water is what you use, since just letting it burn is more dangerous.
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Jun 18, 2017 12:04
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Kemper Boyd posted:Spreads it, but also tends to make it less hot. If water is all you got, water is what you use, since just letting it burn is more dangerous. I would have thought putting it somewhere non flammable and letting it burn out would be less dangerous. Like put a pan lid over it or something, if you spread it around your whole kitchen it doesn't matter if the grease fire is out because now everything else is on fire.
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Jun 18, 2017 12:05
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OwlFancier posted:I would have thought putting it somewhere non flammable and letting it burn out would be less dangerous. I ain't touching that poo poo, you can go right ahead though.
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Jun 18, 2017 12:06
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Kemper Boyd posted:Spreads it, but also tends to make it less hot. If water is all you got, water is what you use, since just letting it burn is more dangerous. This is pretty terrible advice. Throwing water on a grease fire is likely to produce a massive fireball that may well blind or seriously burn the person that threw the water. Protecting life is the overriding concern when fighting fire, so if you can't smother the fire or move the pan to a safer location you should leave and call the fire brigade.
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Jun 18, 2017 12:08
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Raeg posted:I can't imagine how smug this guy was at the Exit Poll. About a three quarters as smug as Andrew Neill is at his least smug.
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Jun 18, 2017 12:08
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If you must use water on a home scale chip pan fire, do it by soaking a towel, not by throwing water at it. Also when it looks like it's gone out, it's still hot enough to reignite so leave the towel on for at least half an hour. Also it should be obvious but turn off the heat source as soon as it's safe to approach. Too many people forget that bit in the panic. Soda is still the best way, instant from "I'm a grease fire" to "now I'm soap".
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Jun 18, 2017 12:09
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Guavanaut posted:If you must use water on a home scale chip pan fire, do it by soaking a towel, not by throwing water at it. Will straight up carbonated drinks work as well or is that just stupid? Like, can I throw sprite on the drat thing.
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Jun 18, 2017 12:12
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This is what water on a grease fire looks like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3F4c5o4J7M&t=63s Yes, you can see at the end that the fire nearly goes out. Just after releasing a fireball that sets your curtains, walls, ceiling, hair and eyeballs on fire.
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Jun 18, 2017 12:13
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Kemper Boyd posted:Spreads it, but also tends to make it less hot. If water is all you got, water is what you use, since just letting it burn is more dangerous. If water is all you've got, just loving run. In any given kitchen there are twenty things much safer and more effective at putting out a liquid fire than water, and none of them carry the risk of turning your kitchen into Heartbreak Ridge.
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Jun 18, 2017 12:18
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Miftan posted:Will straight up carbonated drinks work as well or is that just stupid? Like, can I throw sprite on the drat thing. Baking/washing/drain soda is solid powder, and dry powder fire extinguishers are just a way of dispersing a fine cloud of baking/washing soda and salt conveniently, but in an kitchen emergency stabbing a tub of baking soda with a roasting fork and upending it in the pan is better than nothing. That or soaking wet towel, but that does have a danger of reignition (in your face if not careful) if removed too soon, because there's still flammables in the gas phase under it. The ideal ideal solution is a chemical foam fire extinguisher, which also converts the fat to soap but is more controllable, you have a wand at the end of it.
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Jun 18, 2017 12:18
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hand-fed baby bird posted:Didn't Belgium go without a functioning government for quite a while recently? Not sure it's a model we can follow with Brexit like Actually we had kept the old one in the meantime, just couldn't pass new law. Allowed us to avoid the first wave of frantic austerity decisions (not all of them unfortunately). 11/10 would be without government again
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Jun 18, 2017 12:21
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Just punch fires out you wimps.
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Jun 18, 2017 12:23
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You can also do what my mam does and refuse to deep fry anything because she's set the pan on fire about 3 times.
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Jun 18, 2017 12:24
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forkboy84 posted:About a three quarters as smug as Andrew Neill is at his least smug. 
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Jun 18, 2017 12:25
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I deal with fires like I deal with my posting foes, a rapid barrage of ice burns.
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Jun 18, 2017 12:29
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I'm glad this thread has so much advice on how to deal with future hot takes.
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Jun 18, 2017 12:33
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Turbolurker decloaking to say that for the paltry sum of £15 you can be the owner of your very own powder extinguisher and not have to dig through a cupboard for that bicarb soda you think you might have bought 6 years ago: Updated as per comments below, For chip pan/grease fires (wet chemical): https://www.amazon.co.uk/FireShield...=f+extinguisher For car or general home fires (dry powder): https://www.amazon.co.uk/AA-Fire-Extinguisher-950g-Bsi/dp/B002Q9O3GK/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1497785233&sr=8-10&keywords=bc+extinguisher It will last for about ten years before you need to replace it. NB. I am in no way a fire expert so if someone with more knowledge can suggest a better extinguisher I will happily edit this post. (Thanks all) Edit: do not attempt to put out a fire with a sofa kyojin fucked around with this message at 13:02 on Jun 18, 2017 |
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Jun 18, 2017 12:42
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Do none of you people own fire extinguishers? Catering fire extinguishers are £20 if that, go nuts, treat yourselves to a fire blanket for £10 as well.
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Jun 18, 2017 12:43
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dispatch_async posted:Labour's post-Election unity crumbles as prominent MP mocks idea that Jeremy Corbyn 'won' the election and warn the party's position could be a 'false dawn' Eh, you were always going to get a few die-hards, like Chris Leslie, who'd rather carry on hiding in the jungle like the war's still going on rather than actually doing their jobs. The majority of the PLP is united and I'll only start getting worried about that if some of the big names start mouthing off.
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Jun 18, 2017 12:46
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Vitamin P posted:Just punch fires out you wimps.
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Jun 18, 2017 12:46
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My flat came with a fire extinguisher how do i find out how old it is and how do i get rid of it assuming i never use it?
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Jun 18, 2017 12:47
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Kyojin, for a kitchen you want a class F one. http://www.eurofireprotection.com/blog/2013/11/
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Jun 18, 2017 12:47
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So after Hammond said today that sprinklers weren't always 'the best way' to ensure fire safety, how much pressure do you think the government will exert on the inquiry not to say retrofitting sprinklers should be required? Maybe tone it down to a strong recommendation, which can be communicated to local councils via a form letter. There has apparently never been a multi-casualty fire in a fully sprinklered building.
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Jun 18, 2017 12:49
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Jose posted:My flat came with a fire extinguisher how do i find out how old it is and how do i get rid of it assuming i never use it? They generally have a date on them somewhere afaik. For getting rid of I find the best way is generally to find something to spray it all over because it's fun.
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Jun 18, 2017 12:50
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kyojin posted:NB. I am in no way a fire expert so if someone with more knowledge can suggest a better extinguisher I will happily edit this post. Other fires depends entirely on your needs. Car? That one you linked should be fine. Coal/wood fireplace in your house? Water or sand bucket. Appliance fire? CO2 or powder if you're there, not much you can do for when you're not that doesn't cost a ton, other than those ones you hang from the ceiling. Being  ?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIs5nuOpaAY
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Jun 18, 2017 12:52
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Guavanaut posted:Depends on the type of fire. As we're talking chip pans at the moment, an automotive type extinguisher still has the risk of blasting burning grease out of the pan with the pressure. Blanket is good, but only as good as soaked towel with less prep time. Wet chemical is the absolute best for oil fires, you gently turn it into soap with a Why do I now want to see an Mi-17 with the rocket racks filled with those things used as a firefighting appliance? It can have a fight with the T34 with jet engines strapped to it for coolest fire engine. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 13:00 on Jun 18, 2017 |
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Jun 18, 2017 12:57
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Soak a towel in water until it is sopping wet, hold it in front of you, lay it over the pan away from you, then get another sopping wet towel on the off chance that it still burns through. Or put the lid on it. Out of interest, would regular flour work? There's usually plenty of that around, although I guess nowadays the average paup might not have enough space or money for baking in their flammable hovel.
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Jun 18, 2017 12:59
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:Soak a towel in water until it is sopping wet, hold it in front of you, lay it over the pan away from you, then get another sopping wet towel on the off chance that it still burns through. No that'll make it explode
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Jun 18, 2017 13:02
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:Soak a towel in water until it is sopping wet, hold it in front of you, lay it over the pan away from you, then get another sopping wet towel on the off chance that it still burns through. Powdered carbohydrate is basically a thermobaric bomb. There's a long and storied history of dust explosions in food factories.
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Jun 18, 2017 13:09
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coffeetable posted:Powdered carbohydrate is basically a thermobaric bomb. There's a long and storied history of dust explosions in food factories. Also I think in Sleepy Hollow the movie, Johnny Depp causes a flour filled windmill to explode. So, y'know, that too.
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Jun 18, 2017 13:12
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this is why i dont cook, too dangerous. dominos 27/7
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Jun 18, 2017 13:13
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Throwing almost any sort of powder (except an actual fire retardant like baking soda) onto a fire is a terrible idea. Everything gets much more flammable when it has higher surface area, and an airborne powder has basically the highest possible surface area. So even if it's something that you wouldn't normally think of as viable fuel, it's not just going to burn, it's going to explode. Back in secondary school I got to see a ceiling-scorching fireball made of custard powder.
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Jun 18, 2017 13:13
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:Soak a towel in water until it is sopping wet, hold it in front of you, lay it over the pan away from you, then get another sopping wet towel on the off chance that it still burns through. Haha yes just flail flammable dust at the fire.
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Jun 18, 2017 13:21
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This is sickening. Residents of Grenfell tower being moved as far away as Preston and one man who lost his wife dumped in a care home. https://twitter.com/SocialistVoice/status/876407083314409472
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Jun 18, 2017 13:22
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I like how all those mandatory health and saftey courses/lessons in school were a monumental waste of time for most goons.
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Jun 18, 2017 13:24
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learnincurve posted:I like how all those mandatory health and saftey courses/lessons in school were a monumental waste of time for most goons. I'm pretty sure we never got that. We briefly had some basic oven/hob safety stuff in cooking I guess.
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Jun 18, 2017 13:27
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The only thing I learned from the health and safety courses at school was that when I'm trespassing on the railway line I shouldn't wear my headphones because I'll get splatted by a train that I never heard coming.
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Jun 18, 2017 13:28
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Whimsicalfuckery posted:This is sickening. Residents of Grenfell tower being moved as far away as Preston and one man who lost his wife dumped in a care home. standard practice for councils. When I was working for Barnet it was normal to offer unsuitable places and tell anyone who didn't accept that they would be made "intentionally homeless". anyone approaching Kensington & Chelsea is going to get this. They are not set up to help and even if individual housing officers would want to they don't have the operating procedures that would allow them to offer any actual assistance.
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On the firechat topic, I found myself having to explain to someone on Twitter why it would have been a Bad Idea if the guy whose fridge caught fire had thrown a bucket of water on and then to someone else who waded in that its not "better than doing nothing" and that not adding water to electrical fires isn't just me being "health and safety" and then I realised I was engaging in Twitter arguments and stopped.
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