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| Labour |
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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
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Guy Goodbody posted:The perpetrator's identity hasn't been confirmed yet I fail to see how that's relevant to how important it is that white community leaders make certain they've condemned these sort of attacks even if *barely contained snicker* it wasn't a white perpetrator this time
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Police confirmed that one person was pronounced dead on the scene. Also regarding the suspect quote:At this stage there are no reports of any persons having suffered any knife injuries. The driver of the van - a man aged 48 - was found detained by members of public at the scene and then arrested by police in connection with the incident. He has been taken to hospital as a precaution, and will be taken into custody once discharged. He will also be subject of a mental health assessment in due course.
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Jun 19, 2017 04:57
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As the whitest man in Britain, I feel it falls to me to categorically condemn this atrocity.
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Jun 19, 2017 05:01
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UberJew posted:I fail to see how that's relevant to how important it is that white community leaders make certain they've condemned these sort of attacks even if *barely contained snicker* it wasn't a white perpetrator this time I mean, they've confirmed it couldn't have been a water main, because water mains can't dress up as white people and drive cars. It's not been ruled out it was a NOAA drone in a thumbsuit.
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Jun 19, 2017 05:15
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TomViolence posted:As the whitest man in Britain, I feel it falls to me to categorically condemn this atrocity. That's quite the claim. Can your rear end be used to signal aircraft and do cameras have trouble with auto focusing on you?
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Jun 19, 2017 05:17
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I can't go out in direct sunlight or the reflected glare becomes a hazard for passing motorists.
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Jun 19, 2017 05:23
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How quickly did it take to go for the crazy lone wolf approach?
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Jun 19, 2017 05:39
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Agnosticnixie posted:How quickly did it take to go for the crazy lone wolf approach? Skinty McEdger posted:Police confirmed that one person was pronounced dead on the scene. Last line of this post
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Jun 19, 2017 05:42
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Oh, fun. The NYT went straight for blood libel it seems. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/18/world/europe/london-britain-vehicle-collision-.html quote:The Finsbury Park Mosque opened in 1994 and became a hotbed of Islamist militants, including Zacarias Moussaoui, a Frenchman convicted of conspiring to kill Americans as part of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, and Richard C. Reid, who tried to down an American jetliner in late 2001 with explosives packed in his shoes. In 2015, the mosque’s former imam, Mostafa Kamel Mostafa, was sentenced to life in prison in Federal District Court in Manhattan on 11 terrorism-related charges. As though there hadn't been major changes in the place in the last decade.
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Jun 19, 2017 05:53
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It's really awesome how the second it was muslims being run over the cunts at the Daily Mail and the NYT are looking at any nook and cranny to make it more OK for this terror attack to have happened.
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Jun 19, 2017 06:09
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Al-Saqr posted:It's really awesome how the second it was muslims being run over the cunts at the Daily Mail and the NYT are looking at any nook and cranny to make it more OK for this terror attack to have happened. I think you'll find this is entirely deserved because at some point an imam was arrested. Why no this isn't the same as christian pastors calling for murdering muslims, tyvm.
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Jun 19, 2017 06:43
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Aww man woke up to the sounds of a helicopter overhead as this is just up the road from me.
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Jun 19, 2017 06:44
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CNN is also now going for a round of "Well they were no angels" Also good news, the terrorist was clean-shaven! 
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Jun 19, 2017 07:05
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Did somone mention Enoch Powell? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleanor_Smith_(politician)
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Jun 19, 2017 07:07
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Have gardeners world issued a statement yet?
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Jun 19, 2017 07:13
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https://twitter.com/Known_As_H/status/876584605276676097
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Jun 19, 2017 07:14
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It would be really loving nice if we could go a week without a national incident 
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Jun 19, 2017 07:24
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Rarity posted:It would be really loving nice if we could go a week without a national incident It's getting really crazy isn't it.
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Jun 19, 2017 07:29
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Accidentally caught 2 seconds of Piers Morgan. Kill all white people.
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Jun 19, 2017 07:29
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https://twitter.com/hrtbps/status/876199817617317888
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Jun 19, 2017 07:30
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Praseodymi posted:Accidentally caught 2 seconds of Piers Morgan. Induce vomiting and dial 999 immediately.
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Jun 19, 2017 07:32
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Guavanaut posted:I'm sure you (or someone else) did years back. I remember it being very much a thing that low rises with common parks and brownstone style tenements work well in a number of social and community ways that high rises fail at, and crime and cohesion was one of them. Yeah, there's a book series from the 70's, from Oxford Press, by a team of authors led by Christopher Alexander. I think the relevant installment is A Pattern Language: Towns, Buildings, Construction. Can't be too sure as I pulled it out of the library over a decade ago on a whim and I only remember a few things from it, but this was one of them: if you live more than about four stories up from ground you might as well be on a remote island for all the capacity of society to reach up to you and you down to it.
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Jun 19, 2017 07:32
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So like I figure the next step is Theresa May bombing the roots of terrorism? Like the offices of the Mail, 10 Downing street, Tory HQ, that sort of thing
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Jun 19, 2017 07:35
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Agnosticnixie posted:So like I figure the next step is Theresa May bombing the roots of terrorism? Like the offices of the Mail, 10 Downing street, Tory HQ, that sort of thing The IRA tried that and it didn't work though.
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Jun 19, 2017 07:39
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What??? May just called it a "potential terrorist attack" What??!
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Jun 19, 2017 07:59
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learnincurve posted:What??? i know this sounds crazy, but white people can be terrorists too i dunno what else you would call someone who deliberately attacked people of a certain religion on their way out of church during an important time in their religious year (which means more people) with no regard for human life
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Jun 19, 2017 08:02
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learnincurve posted:What??? Potential seems somewhat low when the guy was literally shouting his motives
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Jun 19, 2017 08:05
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Agnosticnixie posted:Potential seems somewhat low when the guy was literally shouting his motives In fairness London Bridge was still (officially) being called a "potential" terrorist attack at this point too, to the intense annoyance of the thumb people.
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Jun 19, 2017 08:08
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Oh gently caress off BBC - witness literally gets finished telling him the guy was shouting "I want to kill muslims" and the reporter asks "Did this feel like a deliberate attack?"
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Jun 19, 2017 08:10
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Oh gently caress off BBC - witness literally gets finished telling him the guy was shouting "I want to kill muslims" and the reporter asks "Did this feel like a deliberate attack?" Well he didn't clarify whether or not he wanted to kill normal people too you see
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Jun 19, 2017 08:13
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https://twitter.com/CNN/status/876696831815757824 Good statements here.
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Jun 19, 2017 08:13
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Oh gently caress off BBC - witness literally gets finished telling him the guy was shouting "I want to kill muslims" and the reporter asks "Did this feel like a deliberate attack?" Look, it's really really hard to say.
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Jun 19, 2017 08:13
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jabby posted:Sadiq Khan has thrown his hat into the ring for 'biggest missed point' and 'biggest oval office' with his piece in the Observer. "loving fine" probably not. The residents group seems to have been raising fire safety issues for years that were never addressed. i think the inquiry is going to have a lot to say
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Jun 19, 2017 08:20
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A bit of context a friend reminded me of for Grenfell that I thought was interesting: to this day there is no firm figure for exactly how many people were in the World Trade Centre on September 11th. The best estimate is 17,400. The last person to be counted as a casualty was only ruled to have died there in 2008. Casualty figures are not easy
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Jun 19, 2017 08:23
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Cerv posted:"loving fine" probably not. The residents group seems to have been raising fire safety issues for years that were never addressed. i think the inquiry is going to have a lot to say The concerns listed in that blog mostly relate to traffic control and access around the building, and the maintenance and upkeep of the building including emergency power supplies and clearing fire risks. The building itself wasn't especially dangerous prior to the renovations, or at least wasn't described as such.
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Jun 19, 2017 08:26
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adamantium|wang posted:https://twitter.com/CNN/status/876696831815757824 Yeah I thought that when I saw the video of the guy being arrested, there were quite a few civilians more or less holding the crowd back. Interesting bet-hedging by the senior Plod on the BBC suggesting the one death may not have been related to the attack - I remember the reports overnight were saying that the crowd the guy drove into were helping a man who had been taken ill in the mosque.
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Jun 19, 2017 08:27
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It's not a terrorist attack. Terrorist attacks are done for political aims. This is a copy cat murder and a hate crime. Tory party and press have used the word terrorist because your casual idiot will read that line in the paper and on lists of terrorist attacks this year and assume he's Muslim one lone hate filled person is not a terrorist unless they leave an actual manifesto behind, if you just get a rambling hate filled letter then they are just a murderer. Calling them terrorists can give a twisted justification to other murdercunts out there.
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Jun 19, 2017 08:31
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Glazius posted:Yeah, there's a book series from the 70's, from Oxford Press, by a team of authors led by Christopher Alexander. I think the relevant installment is A Pattern Language: Towns, Buildings, Construction. Can't be too sure as I pulled it out of the library over a decade ago on a whim and I only remember a few things from it, but this was one of them: if you live more than about four stories up from ground you might as well be on a remote island for all the capacity of society to reach up to you and you down to it.
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learnincurve posted:It's not a terrorist attack. Terrorist attacks are done for political aims. This is a copy cat murder and a hate crime. Tory party and press have used the word terrorist because your casual idiot will read that line in the paper and on lists of terrorist attacks this year and assume he's Muslim It's being reported as a terrorist attack.
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The met are now calling it a terrorist attack https://twitter.com/skynewsaust/status/876702348780777472
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