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| Labour |
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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
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I'm glad that even in the midst of a terrible tradgedy this thread can keep on as usual and find a way to argue about semantics.
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SteelMentor posted:We need to seal the borders from these whites until we know what the hell is going on. Brexit to the rescue! Brescue?
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Jun 19, 2017 10:22
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Angepain posted:I'm glad that even in the midst of a terrible tradgedy this thread can keep on as usual and find a way to argue about semantics. and without pissflaps, too! His spirit lives on, even though his posting may not.
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Miftan posted:and without pissflaps, too! His spirit lives on, even though his posting may not. Pissflaps posted in support of the "it was terrorism" side of the debate. Pissflaps posted:Not sure how we can decide that this attack wasnt politically motivated it seems more likely than not to me.
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Jun 19, 2017 10:24
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Angepain posted:I'm glad that even in the midst of a terrible tradgedy this thread can keep on as usual and find a way to argue about semantics. I'd say we're actually discussing denotation and furthermore;
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Jun 19, 2017 10:24
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What religion of peace did this attacker follow?
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I've got my fingers crossed for Scientology.
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Jun 19, 2017 10:27
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Piece of pie and mash I'd imagine.
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Jun 19, 2017 10:28
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https://twitter.com/laurafleur/status/876730656549744640 Disgusting of Mr Corbyn to politicise this tragedy.
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Jun 19, 2017 10:29
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In modern contexts I think "terrorism" has taken on a new meaning than just "acts that are intended to cause terror". Nowadays terrorism is violent acts by a group that is not in power in an attempt to obtain more power. There will have to be a lot more majority-on-minority attacks before the definition of "terrorism" changes in the public's eye.
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Jun 19, 2017 10:29
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Tesseraction posted:https://twitter.com/laurafleur/status/876730656549744640 Just stepping around the joke here, going to mention for anyone unaware that this is in fact Corbyn's constituency, so it's not surprising that he'd show up this fast.
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Jun 19, 2017 10:32
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He was actually at the scene in the early hours of last night since he heard the aftermath and went to see what was going on. He lives down the road.
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Jun 19, 2017 10:33
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Darth Walrus posted:Just stepping around the joke here, going to mention for anyone unaware that this is in fact Corbyn's constituency, so it's not surprising that he'd show up this fast. He was out on the pull and hasn't been to bed yet.
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Jun 19, 2017 10:34
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sassassin posted:He was out on the pull and hasn't been to bed yet. What a lad.
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Jun 19, 2017 10:36
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He does look like there's an empty 2L of white lightning tucked away nearby.
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Jun 19, 2017 10:38
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qkkl posted:In modern contexts I think "terrorism" has taken on a new meaning than just "acts that are intended to cause terror". Nowadays terrorism is violent acts by a group that is not in power in an attempt to obtain more power. There will have to be a lot more majority-on-minority attacks before the definition of "terrorism" changes in the public's eye. In these cases, you just need to slip "white-nationalist" before "terrorist" to describe the issue
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Jun 19, 2017 10:38
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Muslims will just have to get used to living with terrorism, its part of living in a major city. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Jun 19, 2017 10:43
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croc suit posted:Muslims will just have to get used to living with terrorism, its part of living in a major city. That's not what Sadiq Khan said, dickhead.
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Jun 19, 2017 10:44
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Osama Dozen-Dongs posted:So was it at the terror mosque or not? News said yes, some goon said no. "the terror mosque" get the gently caress out of here.
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Jun 19, 2017 10:44
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croc suit posted:Muslims will just have to get used to living with terrorism, its part of living in a major city. Get out, oval office
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Jun 19, 2017 10:44
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Party Boat posted:Different mosque according to the Guardian's reporter on the scene I think it is that mosque or there's some serious wires crossed. My best guess is the reporter got confused because the attack targeted people after they had exited the Finnsbury Mosque, made a left turn and were down the street in front of the Muslim Welfare Center of Islington which is pretty close to another mosque in the opposite direction.
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Jun 19, 2017 10:44
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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/19/grenfell-tower-fire-death-toll-rises-to-79-police-sayquote:The number of people missing and presumed dead after the Grenfell Tower disaster has risen to 79, Metropolitan police commander Stuart Cundy has said.
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Jun 19, 2017 10:45
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dispatch_async posted:https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/19/grenfell-tower-fire-death-toll-rises-to-79-police-say Imagine being burned to death by the government and having no one miss you afterwards. Surely it's got to be more that 79 by now.
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Jun 19, 2017 10:54
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Redgrendel2001 posted:I think it is that mosque or there's some serious wires crossed. Thanks for clarifying, I'm not familiar with the area.
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Jun 19, 2017 10:56
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sassassin posted:Imagine being burned to death by the government and having no one miss you afterwards. Be at peace knowing most of the people probably died by smoke inhalation rather than being immolated alive
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Jun 19, 2017 11:03
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learnincurve posted:I'll hold my hands up and say I'm often really bad getting what I want to say out of my head on paper in a coherent way. I don't like reading the word terrorism in the papers either. The solution is stop reading the papers, nothing good comes from it.
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Jun 19, 2017 11:14
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That is still grim but at least it does sound slightly less horrific. 
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Jun 19, 2017 11:14
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sassassin posted:Imagine being burned to death by the government and having no one miss you afterwards. If your entire family burns to death together it would be easy to be missed. I try not to think too hard about this because I feel alternate very sad and very angry.
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Jun 19, 2017 11:20
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croc suit posted:Muslims will just have to get used to living with terrorism, its part of living in a major city. great gbs hot take you got there
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Jun 19, 2017 11:21
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croc suit posted:Muslims will just have to get used to living with terrorism, its part of living in a major city. begone thumb man.
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Jun 19, 2017 11:22
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does that 74 missing and presumed dead include the original 30 or so?
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Jun 19, 2017 11:22
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XMNN posted:does that 74 missing and presumed dead include the original 30 or so? I can't imagine why it wouldn't. It's a tally of those confirmed dead.
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Jun 19, 2017 11:24
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Seems the reason Corbs seems a little ragged this morning is indeed as suggested that he's been up all night - he was in Muslim Welfare House, the building near the attack, at 4 O'Clock speaking to Khan about the situation.
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Jun 19, 2017 11:26
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Its funny that Corbyn has become sorta De Facto prime minister while May hides. e: also going to chip in with the "it was terrorism" lot. terrorism is just political violence commited by non-state actors (when the state does it its counter-terrorism)
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Jun 19, 2017 11:37
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sassassin posted:What religion of peace did this attacker follow? The word of Our Nige.
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Jun 19, 2017 11:39
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We need to ban Carling and those stupid loving England flags with the word England on the front. Only then will we know peace.
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Jun 19, 2017 11:43
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The BBC are polarising as ever. Half are attacking them for not calling a terrorist attack what it is (though in fairness Norman Smith has been drilling it home as an attack angle on May), while half are, um https://twitter.com/PFencesMusic/status/876750958772047873 E: May immediately calls it another terror attack.
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Jun 19, 2017 11:46
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HJB posted:The BBC are polarising as ever. Half are attacking them for not calling a terrorist attack what it is (though in fairness Norman Smith has been drilling it home as an attack angle on May), while half are, um Well that's absolute bollocks. The BBC literally didn't cover it on their news channels for hours after other channels had, their website coverage was poo poo and they were one of the last to use the word "terrorism." In fact none of the channels or coverage used the word terrorist (to the point where the people there on the site who were watching the streams of the coverage were getting upset about this) until May used the words "the police are treating this as a potential terror attack" at about 4am, and then continued to only use the words incident/potential terror attack until the met confirmed it.
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Jun 19, 2017 11:53
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https://twitter.com/dailymirror/status/876483350155980800 RIP David Cameron
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There's no particular reason for May or the BBC to not call it a terrorist attack. The meme is just that typically, through inattention and structural racism, they don't. Feels like it happened with such consistency for so long that both leftists and raving fascists have ascribed a conspiracy to it.
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