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Raylen posted:You really need to get verified somehow. They won't verify without a "real" name and profile picture. So I'll be trying stuff like this until I get that drat tick. 
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Smol posted:They'd have to release the text first, no? negative. they already sent the sentate bill to the CBO to be scored. the text won't be seen by the public until the moment it is voted on. I believe they plan to put a dummy bill on the floor, debate it for the required time, and then replace the entire text of the dummy bill with the AHCA, and then it will be voted on right at that time. members voting on it will not know the contents of the bill most likely.
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enraged_camel posted:He will be 74 in 2020, so he can very credibly claim he has "worked really hard and done a lot in only 4 years" and announce he is going to "retire". Trump will get primaried. Which is his best case scenario because that way he won't lose the General Election. Without an incumbent and the party fractured, the GOP will lose to Democrats. That way Trump can claim he was stabbed in the back and totally would have won. Which is what he wanted to happen in 2016, but Pennsylvania decided to all of a sudden vote Republican.
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No Butt Stuff posted:Since they're probably getting it scored and then will file an amendment to replace the entire text of the scored bill, they'll probably pass that without an actual score. I believe that if they do what people are suspecting they will do the actual plan is to give the text to the CBO to score but not publicly release the score because it is just proposed language and not actually introduced yet. They then get the placeholder bill to the final stages of passage and amend it to replace the entire text with their AHCA bill, immediately release the CBO report, and pass the bill before anyone can even finish printing a copy of it and the CBO analysis.
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No Butt Stuff posted:Are they not aware that he has... no brain function? Fits right in in Trumps America
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:negative. they already sent the sentate bill to the CBO to be scored. the text won't be seen by the public until the moment it is voted on. I believe they plan to put a dummy bill on the floor, debate it for the required time, and then replace the entire text of the dummy bill with the AHCA, and then it will be voted on right at that time. members voting on it will not know the contents of the bill most likely. I love that this is literally the most extreme possible version of exactly the thing they were accusing democrats of doing with the ACA, which the democrats didn't do at all, actually. Shifty Pony posted:I believe that if they do what people are suspecting they will do the actual plan is to give the text to the CBO to score but not publicly release the score because it is just proposed language and not actually introduced yet. They then get the placeholder bill to the final stages of passage and amend it to replace the entire text with their AHCA bill, immediately release the CBO report, and pass the bill before anyone can even finish printing a copy of it and the CBO analysis. And most likely none of it will go into effect until the day after 2020 elections I assume lol
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We should all refer to the process in which they are using to pass the AHCA as Turtling.empty whippet box posted:I love that this is literally the most extreme possible version of exactly the thing they were accusing democrats of doing with the ACA, which the democrats didn't do at all, actually. Projection is basically the heart of the GOP. They internalized their own bullshit rhetoric, so they feel justified in what they are doing. Even though anyone with two brain cells see's what they are doing.
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empty whippet box posted:I love that this is literally the most extreme possible version of exactly the thing they were accusing democrats of doing with the ACA, which the democrats didn't do at all, actually. Republicans are literally incapable of not projecting 100% of the time
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:negative. they already sent the sentate bill to the CBO to be scored. the text won't be seen by the public until the moment it is voted on. I believe they plan to put a dummy bill on the floor, debate it for the required time, and then replace the entire text of the dummy bill with the AHCA, and then it will be voted on right at that time. members voting on it will not know the contents of the bill most likely.
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Phoix posted:Timothy Murphy really doesn't want people to know he voted to repeal the ACA. It has been edited out 3 times in the past 20 minutes. This useless motherfucker represents my district and his district is one of many that the state level GOP gerrymandered to ensure GOP dominance since he'd have no loving prayer at holding his office otherwise. If he's trying to hide his vote it must be because the wealthy (Republican) part of the district is angry with him because he sure as poo poo won't worry about what the poor rural areas think since they'll consistently vote R.
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empty whippet box posted:I love that this is literally the most extreme possible version of exactly the thing they were accusing democrats of doing with the ACA, which the democrats didn't do at all, actually. I'm every Republican on social media and I think you'll find that that's exactly what the democrats did on ACA and also they actually did it way harder and worse and I will literally never be convinced otherwise
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JazzFlight posted:This scummy trick is the most insane thing I've ever heard and makes my blood absolutely boil. Like every loving day, Republicans one-up themselves into becoming the most diabolically evil super-villains. Our trash tier government set up full of easily exploitable holes doesn't help much.
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theflyingorc posted:why are 18 to 49 year olds watching America's Funniest Home videos marijuana exists
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Shifty Pony posted:I believe that if they do what people are suspecting they will do the actual plan is to give the text to the CBO to score but not publicly release the score because it is just proposed language and not actually introduced yet. They then get the placeholder bill to the final stages of passage and amend it to replace the entire text with their AHCA bill, immediately release the CBO report, and pass the bill before anyone can even finish printing a copy of it and the CBO analysis. How long after this can the house pass it? Assuming Paul Ryan already has the votes lined up (which is a pretty big assumption) can it go immediately to the house and pass? I have to guess this is their plan, if there is any lag in passing the thing after it goes public all the rage from March is going to fire back up once the terms are public. I'd assume if they think there is a shot of passing it it has to get through the house fast.
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Raylen posted:Chris Cuomo grilling Jay Sekulow is amazing. I've never liked Cuomo more. Every single Sekulow interview I've seen has been buck rear end wild. Are yelling and circular arguments really all you need to become a ~*world class lawyer*~?
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theflyingorc posted:why are 18 to 49 year olds watching America's Funniest Home videos The digital divide?
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theflyingorc posted:why are 18 to 49 year olds watching America's Funniest Home videos They cancelled Most Extreme Elimination Challenge and Jackass and people just want to see other people hit in the balls.
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:negative. they already sent the sentate bill to the CBO to be scored. the text won't be seen by the public until the moment it is voted on. I believe they plan to put a dummy bill on the floor, debate it for the required time, and then replace the entire text of the dummy bill with the AHCA, and then it will be voted on right at that time. members voting on it will not know the contents of the bill most likely.  I hope they at least get a good pay check for the tax cuts, because the whole process sounds completely insane. And I thought the R senators were supposed to be the "adults" in this mess. 
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:We should all refer to the process in which they are using to pass the AHCA as Turtling. Yes but this bill is anything but toothless.
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vaginite posted:How long after this can the house pass it? Assuming already has the votes lined up (which is a pretty big assumption) can it go immediately to the house and pass? I have to guess this is their plan, if there is any lag in passing the thing after it goes public all the rage from March is going to fire back up once the terms are public. I'd assume if they think there is a shot of passing it it has to get through the house fast. The house will pass the revised bill without issue likely 24-48 hours after the senate bill passes. Literally the only hope is that you can peel off 3 senators with an R next to their name to prevent the bill from passing at all. Smol posted:
They will for sure get a good paycheck. And yes, they are the adults of the GOP. Thats why they are so competent at their evil as compared to the house, who is both evil and stupid.
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theflyingorc posted:why are 18 to 49 year olds watching America's Funniest Home videos They probably live in an areas with bad Internet connections, or maybe they just want background noise while they're doing chores. Anyway, I really hope Ossoff wins. I (and everyone else) could use a little hope right now.
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FizFashizzle posted:Yes but this bill is anything but toothless. Snapping Turtling, then. Quiet and invisible until it lashes out and then you find out your health insurance doesn't cover finger loss any more.
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haveblue posted:Snapping Turtling, then. Quiet and invisible until it lashes out and then you find out your health insurance doesn't cover finger loss any more. McConnell biting wouldn't cause much damage.
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redneck nazgul posted:They cancelled Most Extreme Elimination Challenge and Jackass and people just want to see other people hit in the balls.
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I wish I had the money to make a Dees-style image of Dr. John Barrasso with a meat cleaver that has AHCA labeled on it and a patient looking worried and put it on every billboard in Wyoming. Oh well, I guess I can just go to his office in my hometown and graffiti "THIS DOCTOR KILLS PATIENTS". No I am not going to vandalize a US Senator's office
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theflyingorc posted:why are 18 to 49 year olds watching America's Funniest Home videos Well, I can think of how I like jokes on twitter, and news on twitter, but actually using or interacting with twitter directly continually fails to click with me for some reason, so I enjoy reading those articles that do little more than summarize "this is what happened with this Twitter joke today". Same thing except for videos on YouTube.
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deep web creep posted:Every single Sekulow interview I've seen has been buck rear end wild. Are yelling and circular arguments really all you need to become a ~*world class lawyer*~? To be hired by Trump, yes.
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theflyingorc posted:why are 18 to 49 year olds watching America's Funniest Home videos Daniel Tosh used to have a show that was just showing month old Youtube clips and it got millions of viewers per episode.
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Shifty Pony posted:I believe that if they do what people are suspecting they will do the actual plan is to give the text to the CBO to score but not publicly release the score because it is just proposed language and not actually introduced yet. They then get the placeholder bill to the final stages of passage and amend it to replace the entire text with their AHCA bill, immediately release the CBO report, and pass the bill before anyone can even finish printing a copy of it and the CBO analysis. This sounds like a walkthrough to do a trick to get infinite rings in diablo II
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empty whippet box posted:Ok, I misunderstood. So we're assuming those models are wrong, because of how huge the turnout is expected to be? My guess is the Handel +2.5 thing is coming from that 538 bit linked a few pages back (which reads like two columns smashed together, c'mon now Nate). I'm not really seeing any pundit-y types getting behind a prediction for a GOP win by that margin. Everyone seems to think that Ossoff has a slight edge but it's way too close to call. The specific issue behind that part of the article is that the district moved sharply (20 points) between 2012 and 2016, so it's hard to make use of relevant national info to see how things 'should' go. If a district is typically, say, +5R, then in an environment where dems are at +7 on a generic ballot you'd expect the dem to have an edge. Likewise, if it's typically a +15R area, you expect the dem to have problems. It's useful information, but not really a model of itself. Just a way of describing what you'd normally expect to see in such a race. eviltastic fucked around with this message at 18:10 on Jun 19, 2017 |
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Shifty Pony posted:I believe that if they do what people are suspecting they will do the actual plan is to give the text to the CBO to score but not publicly release the score because it is just proposed language and not actually introduced yet. They then get the placeholder bill to the final stages of passage and amend it to replace the entire text with their AHCA bill, immediately release the CBO report, and pass the bill before anyone can even finish printing a copy of it and the CBO analysis. No, the "blank bill" trick is to avoid the required time for debate and amendments after a bill is introduced. The CBO score has not been released yet because a full bill hasn't been submitted to the CBO yet. They have only submitted parts "how many people will lose coverage/how much money will be saved by changing x" and not an official bill. A CBO score has to be released before they can vote.
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No Butt Stuff posted:Are they not aware that he has... no brain function? Yeah, but we elected him president anyway 
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Raylen posted:To be hired by Trump, yes. More importantly, to accept him as a client.
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eviltastic posted:My guess is the Handel +2.5 thing is coming from that 538 bit linked a few pages back (which reads like two columns smashed together, c'mon now Nate). metro atlanta republicans went for rubio in the primary. nationally, the 6th is always dragged along by the rest of fulton county to vote blue which obscures how the 6th would vote independently. the question is if their distaste of trump translates into a willingness to support democrats, or if enough younger lefty voters have moved into the district recently (doubtful, most any young lefty who has a choice moves to the 4th or 5th)
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