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bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

I've been here the whole time, and you're not my real Dad! :emo:

ConfusedUs posted:

I'm pretty sure I saw one in there that lets them take two EPTs. So combine the Palp-like one with the one that lets you spend focus tokens as Evades.

Poe is now invincible.

Sadly mini-palp is Imp only

But here's the double EPT one
Give wedge the title, r3, juke, and uh, crack shot? gently caress YOUR GREEN DICE


EDIT:
Oooooh, casual misogyny the card!

bunnyofdoom fucked around with this message at 20:12 on Jun 19, 2017

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AndyElusive
Jan 7, 2007


This dude must really not like playing X-Wing.

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you


Using a crew slot to add an EPT would be pretty busted on any of the Ghost pilots. How 'bout Expertise on Kanan with Recon Specialist while Biggs has got Kanan locked with M9-G8? :stonk:


Use this on every single 3 agility TIE ship plus LWF to get a crew slot for 2 points.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





canyoneer posted:


Using a crew slot to add an EPT would be pretty busted on any of the Ghost pilots. How 'bout Expertise on Kanan with Recon Specialist while Biggs has got Kanan locked with M9-G8? :stonk:


Hera/Navigator with VI at PS 10. Yeah. Or use the multi-EPT one, plus take VI and Adaptabilty for up to PS11.

Admiral Joeslop
Jul 8, 2010




canyoneer posted:



Use this on every single 3 agility TIE ship plus LWF to get a crew slot for 2 points.

Jake with VI, PtL and Kyle crew. PS10 and free focus every turn, making what Jake does even better.

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

I've been here the whole time, and you're not my real Dad! :emo:

Admiral Joeslop posted:

Jake with VI, PtL and Kyle crew. PS10 and free focus every turn, making what Jake does even better.

With no autothrusters, and one less green. Probably makes him a bit squishier, especially against any turrets.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

canyoneer posted:


Using a crew slot to add an EPT would be pretty busted on any of the Ghost pilots. How 'bout Expertise on Kanan with Recon Specialist while Biggs has got Kanan locked with M9-G8? :stonk:


Use this on every single 3 agility TIE ship plus LWF to get a crew slot for 2 points.

LWF is also a mod.

The +2 PS crew is just broken as gently caress. Why yes, I would like PS13. Why do you ask?

Iceclaw
Nov 4, 2009

Fa la lanky down dilly, motherfuckers.

bunnyofdoom posted:

With no autothrusters, and one less green. Probably makes him a bit squishier, especially against any turrets.

Are A Wing even relevant though? I mean, I wish they would be, but they seem so weak nowaday.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





Iceclaw posted:

Are A Wing even relevant though? I mean, I wish they would be, but they seem so weak nowaday.

Yeah they're pretty bad nowadays.

I think there's a case to be made that the design space of the game has evolved to the point that some old ships are no longer viable, which is hardly a point of contention. The contentious point is that I feel the game is better for it from a purely mechanical standpoint.

It sucks that some old ships are no longer cost effective. It sucks even more that some of them aren't viable at all.

But if the alternative is mechanical stagnation, the game withers and dies. I'd rather people bitch that A-Wings are no longer competitive than have no one to play with at all.

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you

thespaceinvader posted:

LWF is also a mod.


Yeah, you're right.
Seems pretty swell with the Vaksai title though, Gonk AND Pulsed Ray Shields

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats
Well, wave 11 is sitting at distro in Australia just waiting for an offical release date.

Want my bomber for flippy regenerating bomb shenanigans so bad.

Raged fucked around with this message at 23:09 on Jun 19, 2017

enigmahfc
Oct 10, 2003

EFF TEE DUB!!
EFF TEE DUB!!
I'd actually be just fine if FFG too a wave or 2, didn't release any new ships, and just released some packs to bring older ships up to speed. Make it Most Wanted style with a few small ships in the pack but the cards and boards for a variety of ships, even across multiple factions. Hell, even release a single ship expansion of older ships, where they have the same stats but a new paint job and some buffing cards and new pilots. Basically, I don't want the game to just plow through and leave old ships to die entirely just to release new models of increasingly obscure ships....like wave 11 will be.

banned from Starbucks
Jul 18, 2004




It sucks that Imp Aces was released so early in the games timeline because other than the title and Carnor its really not even worth getting. 3 of the 4 named pilots were DoA. We're at a point were even the packs that "fix" ships aren't worthwhile because they're so old. #MakeInterceptorsGreatAgain

Slandible
Apr 30, 2008

Whats the resale usually go for on this? Lack of real FAQs and new stuff has me ready to purge it all.

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats

banned from Starbucks posted:

It sucks that Imp Aces was released so early in the games timeline because other than the title and Carnor its really not even worth getting. 3 of the 4 named pilots were DoA. We're at a point were even the packs that "fix" ships aren't worthwhile because they're so old. #MakeInterceptorsGreatAgain

I'm thinking interceptors will see some love when Kylo's interceptor comes out with the new movie.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

Raged posted:

Well, wave 11 is sitting at distro in Australia just waiting for an offical release date.

Want my bomber for flippy regenerating bomb shenanigans so bad.



Jesus that's early. I suspect they'll get in deep poo poo for releasing that photo. You're talking about packs which aren't even officially on the boat yet.

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats

Slandible posted:

Whats the resale usually go for on this? Lack of real FAQs and new stuff has me ready to purge it all.

Seems to be half to 3/4 depending on condition and what you have. There is a real FAQ though that gets updated multiple times a year.

alg
Mar 14, 2007

A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

banned from Starbucks posted:

It sucks that Imp Aces was released so early in the games timeline because other than the title and Carnor its really not even worth getting. 3 of the 4 named pilots were DoA. We're at a point were even the packs that "fix" ships aren't worthwhile because they're so old. #MakeInterceptorsGreatAgain

All of the pilots in Rebel aces are not viable and one crew card sees play. Neither the A Wing or B Wing has a viable pilot at this point really

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you

Raged posted:

I'm thinking interceptors will see some love when Kylo's interceptor comes out with the new movie.

It's not a lack of love for interceptors, it's an abundance of hate for aces.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

Slandible posted:

Whats the resale usually go for on this? Lack of real FAQs and new stuff has me ready to purge it all.

If you're willing to make individual sales you can get shot of a lot of packs for well above market value, especially given that there's a lot of stuff awaiting reprint; Y Wings and K Wings in particular are like gold dust right now, and it's still the case that yopu can buy a K Wing and sell the TLT cards alone for more than you paid for it if you want to. But you'll also end up sitting on a whole mess of stuff no-one wants at all.

Alternatively, if you want to just list everything as a single lot and save time, you won't make anywhere near as much money, but you will get it off your hands.

I'm not sure what you mean by lack of FAQs and new stuff though I mean there was a wave like 4 months ago, and the C-ROC less than 1 month ago.

FAQs are an issue though, it's really bugging me that they're previewing stuff, immediately people are noticing rules issues, and they're not releasing day 1 FAQs to fix that poo poo. There's at least one linchpin card in the C-ROC that outright doesn't work as written, and several that need clarity as to how they work in certain edge cases.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

alg posted:

All of the pilots in Rebel aces are not viable and one crew card sees play. Neither the A Wing or B Wing has a viable pilot at this point really

Jake is plenty viable, he made it to the top 16 of Worlds last year.

He's not Fenn tier, but what is at the moment except loving Fenn?

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats

alg posted:

All of the pilots in Rebel aces are not viable and one crew card sees play. Neither the A Wing or B Wing has a viable pilot at this point really

Only time you will see either ships is a swarm with the generics. (Note: I'm gay for my rebel swarm)

canyoneer posted:

It's not a lack of love for interceptors, it's an abundance of hate for aces.
The hate just got piled on with more TLTs, Bombs and Reinforce. However, at top level play you will still see lots of aces.

Talas
Aug 27, 2005

canyoneer posted:

It's not a lack of love for interceptors, it's an abundance of hate for aces.
I see no hate for Fenn.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

Talas posted:

I see no hate for Fenn.

Fenn gets hated on just as much as everyone else, he just happens to be the cheapest and toughest ace on the market, so he's the only one who's managed to stay relevant. Bombs still murderfuck him just as hard as everyone else.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

Raged posted:

I'm thinking interceptors will see some love when Kylo's interceptor comes out with the new movie.

Can't wait for the TIE/IN/fo featuring "Stabby Squadron Ace" and "Stabby Leader"

banned from Starbucks
Jul 18, 2004




alg posted:

All of the pilots in Rebel aces are not viable and one crew card sees play. Neither the A Wing or B Wing has a viable pilot at this point really

exactly. when even your anti-powercreep sets get power creeped out of relevance you have a problem.

Chill la Chill
Jul 2, 2007

Don't lose your gay


Improbable Lobster posted:

Can't wait for the TIE/IN/fo featuring "Stabby Squadron Ace" and "Stabby Leader"
I wish they gave the /FO and other faceless aces the more generic in-universe names like OS-72-1 instead of Greek_ace.

Strobe
Jun 30, 2014
GW BRAINWORMS CREW
Power creeping entire ships out of points effectiveness probably means you have a really lovely points costing system, because points are supposed to be literally and explicitly designed to ensure balance between differently powered ships. Older ships no longer being points effective is, at this point, literally a defining contributor to the idea that newer ships are undercosted.

But this is nothing new.

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you

thespaceinvader posted:

Fenn gets hated on just as much as everyone else, he just happens to be the cheapest and toughest ace on the market, so he's the only one who's managed to stay relevant. Bombs still murderfuck him just as hard as everyone else.

It's exactly that, because he can be paired with two powerhouse, grossly undercosted torpedo jumpmasters to screen for him and cover nicely for all his weaknesses.

alg
Mar 14, 2007

A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

Strobe posted:

Power creeping entire ships out of points effectiveness probably means you have a really lovely points costing system, because points are supposed to be literally and explicitly designed to ensure balance between differently powered ships. Older ships no longer being points effective is, at this point, literally a defining contributor to the idea that newer ships are undercosted.

But this is nothing new.

It's actually just that bad designers took over the game starting with the Phantom

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
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Nah it's just because we've all been playing Xwing 2.0 since about wave 7, with limited backwards compatibility. :)

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

Chill la Chill posted:

I wish they gave the /FO and other faceless aces the more generic in-universe names like OS-72-1 instead of Greek_ace.

The original Empire took at the cool names like Night Beast

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats
Any opinions or critiques?

Inaldra (15)
Attanni Mindlink (1)
Ion Cannon (3)
Pulsed Ray Shield (2)
"Heavy Scyk" Interceptor (Cannon) (2)

Captain Nym (Scum) (30)
Attanni Mindlink (1)
Autoblaster Turret (2)
Bomblet Generator (3)
Accuracy Corrector (3)
"Genius" (0)
Havoc (0)

Contracted Scout (25)
Attanni Mindlink (1)
Extra Munitions (2)
Plasma Torpedoes (3)
Cad Bane (2)
R4 Agromech (2)
Proximity Mines (3)
Guidance Chips (0)

Total: 100

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





I'd probably go with FCS instead of accuracy corrector.

DogCop
Aug 6, 2008

Bake him away, toys.
Maybe swap Extra Munitions for Scavenger Crane? That way you'll be able to choose whether to bring back the torpedoes or the mines.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord
I think it would be very funny to have a cloaked Quadjumper with Cad Bane, Spacetug Tractor Areay and Bomblet Generator toss enemies into bombs all day.

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

I've been here the whole time, and you're not my real Dad! :emo:

Improbable Lobster posted:

I think it would be very funny to have a cloaked Quadjumper with Cad Bane, Spacetug Tractor Areay and Bomblet Generator toss enemies into bombs all day.

You amazing sick bastard, I love it.

Devlan Mud
Apr 10, 2006




I'll hear your stories when we come back, alright?

Improbable Lobster posted:

I think it would be very funny to have a cloaked Quadjumper with Cad Bane, Spacetug Tractor Areay and Bomblet Generator toss enemies into bombs all day.

Make it Zuvio with a pattern analyzer and then ya got something!!

DogCop
Aug 6, 2008

Bake him away, toys.
How fast do you need to fly to avoid your own bombs? Bomblets might be a double edged sword on the Quad.

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Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats

ConfusedUs posted:

I'd probably go with FCS instead of accuracy corrector.

That's a good idea. Just figuring out why I could spend the extra point on. Also I could just drop acc corrector and auto blaster and put an ion turret on to help with ship control.



Come on FFG give us a date. So want to try this stuff out.

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