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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.

forkboy84 posted:

Have you tried living somewhere that has proper seasons?

Seasons are kind of ace. Spring, summer, autumn, winter. Summer never gets too hot, winter rarely gets too cold, the Atlantic Ocean & the Gulf Stream basically keep it decent all year round. Just have to get used to the rain, & the long winter nights. And the rain is a bit less bad if you live on the east coast, I stayed in Sheffield for 6 months & actually started to miss the rain, it just didn't rain very much. Meanwhile I lived in Glasgow on the west coast for 5 years and I'm not sure it ever stopped raining really.

We used to have seasons, swinging from -30 to +30, but the weather the last years...

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Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Just watched the Panorama and I don't know whether I feel more sorrow or anger. The greedy fuckups that caused the situation is bad enough, but the fact not a single person in government at any level seems to be doing a single drat thing to support the survivors is mind-boggling. The only people on the ground are the coppers trying to stop the council getting crucified. Contrast with the ongoing effort by ordinary people and it's all the more striking, but there shouldn't be a loving need. Contrast also with the firefighters who responded that night, were aghast at the scope of the fire, baffled by its infeasibly rapid spread, and then broke their own safety rules to try and rescue more people despite the danger. Heroes everywhere and not a one of them has been getting the support they require from the council or Downing Street.

GEORGE W BUSHI
Jul 1, 2012

Announced transport stuff from the Queen's Speech actually seems fairly good.

1. More charging ports for electric cars
2. Invest in space programme, start launching satellites, maybe manned rockets (lol magic money tree)
3. Build next stage of HS2 from Midlands to the North West

Intrinsic Field Marshal
Sep 6, 2014

by SA Support Robot
its too hot i cant sleep

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
I was just in paris and there are loads of electric car charging things all of the place

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:

its too hot i cant sleep

ur dead.

welcome to hell

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:

its too hot i cant sleep

I'm a Californian who lived in the UK for years and the lack of air conditioning was astounding.

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Vincent Van Goatse posted:

I'm a Californian who lived in the UK for years and the lack of air conditioning was astounding.

I'm actually only after a green card so I can live in a country with air conditioning in homes, don't tell USCIS

GEORGE W BUSHI
Jul 1, 2012

Aircon makes me sneeze

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Mister Adequate posted:

I'm actually only after a green card so I can live in a country with air conditioning in homes, don't tell USCIS

If you explain that to the relevant immigration authorities they'll probably expedite your application.

Zephro
Nov 23, 2000

I suppose I could part with one and still be feared...

Regarde Aduck posted:

In the south by the coast.
It's commuters, innit

edit for content: this is also why Portsmouth is cheaper. The line from Brighton to Victoria takes an hour or so (assuming the trains are working, which recently they mostly haven't been). It's twice that to Portsmouth from Waterloo, partly because the line is poo poo, partly because it has more stops and partly because it's further.

My nearest town is Guildford which is the furthest thing from hip and buzzing that it is possible to imagine :(

Zephro fucked around with this message at 06:26 on Jun 20, 2017

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
I was always amazed that it took almost half as long to get from Portsmouth to Southampton by train as it did to get from Manchester to London.

And in case you smartasses are wondering, the answer is archival research.

Zephro
Nov 23, 2000

I suppose I could part with one and still be feared...

Baron Corbyn posted:

Announced transport stuff from the Queen's Speech actually seems fairly good.

1. More charging ports for electric cars
2. Invest in space programme, start launching satellites, maybe manned rockets (lol magic money tree)
3. Build next stage of HS2 from Midlands to the North West
Lol why on earth does Britain want/need a crewed space programme

I mean why does anyone really but still that's just bizarre and will never happen.

Edit: oh I get it, it must be part of this general 1950s nostalgia trip we've all been having since Brexit

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Zephro posted:

Lol why on earth does Britain want/need a crewed space programme

gently caress you I want The Quatermass Experiment IRL.

I mean of all the things a government could waste money on manned space exploration is like the best possible outcome. Exploring space is Good.

Zephro
Nov 23, 2000

I suppose I could part with one and still be feared...

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

gently caress you I want The Quatermass Experiment IRL.

I mean of all the things a government could waste money on manned space exploration is like the best possible outcome. Exploring space is Good.
Exploring space with robots is good, doing it with people sucks because you have to spend ££££ keeping the fleshy meatbags safe in an environment they really aren't designed for, and even if you manage that the public loses interest almost immediately (case in point: I bet hardly anyone can name the crew of Apollo 12 without googling, let alone the crew of, say, STS-62)

Qwertycoatl
Dec 31, 2008

Finsbury Park suspect Darren Osborne's family 'in shock'

For some reason there's no mention of the family of the guy he killed.

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

Bite my furry metal ass
I'm going to start renting a flat in a couple of months, and I'm kinda rusty on the subject of my rights. I'll be heading down to the CAB today but I wanted to ask here as well if I could.

I'm moving in 5 days before the end of July, about a month after the last tenant clears out, and the landlady initially said that was fine and would give her the opportunity to do some maintenance. In a later email she said I'll only be liable for bills from the date I move in, but she wants rent for the whole of July. I'll be paying August just a week later, and with the deposit as well I'll be out over £1200 pretty much all at once. (I know that's not much to some of you, but it's a lot to me)

I haven't yet signed anything, and won't have done until a few days before I move in. What scope do I have for talking her down to accepting the equivalent of 1 week's rent for July? I assume that before I sign the answer is "none whatsoever" and after it would depend on the wording of the contract?

Skinty McEdger
Mar 9, 2008

I have NEVER received the respect I deserve as the leader and founder of The Masterflock, the internet's largest and oldest Christopher Masterpiece fan group in all of history, and I DEMAND that changes. From now on, you will respect Skinty McEdger!

Zephro posted:

Lol why on earth does Britain want/need a crewed space programme

I mean why does anyone really but still that's just bizarre and will never happen.

Edit: oh I get it, it must be part of this general 1950s nostalgia trip we've all been having since Brexit

The cynical take is that the big takeaway the Tories have about their campaign and manifesto was that there was nothing aspirational in it, that it lacked a big idea to get people behind. A new space program ticks the boxes - it seems like a big idea that no one really expects to go anywhere, where there's no need to show tangible progress or benefits in the short term and that can be used as something to give the country an identity without actually needing to do anything beyond the abstract.

Right wing governments love manned space programs, Trump for example has been pushing for NASA to do more going forward for example. They're bottled dreams that can make people look to the stars and not take notice of the conditions around them the now, to think of a tomorrow very different to that of today.

Normally though peoples interest drops off as soon as it actually becomes a reality that doesn't live up to their imaginations.

NLJP
Aug 26, 2004


On a lighter note

https://twitter.com/petercrouch/status/876846713163718656

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh

Baron Corbyn posted:

Announced transport stuff from the Queen's Speech actually seems fairly good.

1. More charging ports for electric cars
2. Invest in space programme, start launching satellites, maybe manned rockets (lol magic money tree)
3. Build next stage of HS2 from Midlands to the North West

1. Surely that's for the electric car manafacturers to arrange.

2. That sounds expensive

3. gently caress off gently caress off and gently caress off again. Don't gently caress up the countryside for trains that will get you and a few of your friends from Sheffield to London half an hour quicker, when people on average wages can't afford the regular fares let alone whatever the extortionate fares on this thing will be. Sort the problems caused by the beeching report first you absolute cunts.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

But Peter, what about your little brother?

Paul.Power
Feb 7, 2009

The three roles of APCs:
Transports.
Supply trucks.
Distractions.

Zephro posted:

Exploring space with robots is good, doing it with people sucks because you have to spend ££££ keeping the fleshy meatbags safe in an environment they really aren't designed for, and even if you manage that the public loses interest almost immediately (case in point: I bet hardly anyone can name the crew of Apollo 12 without googling, let alone the crew of, say, STS-62)
Can't remember the other two, but I remember the commander was Pete "Whoo-ee, that may have been a small step for Neil, but that's a long way for a guy like me!" Conrad.

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

learnincurve posted:

Sort the problems caused by the beeching report first you absolute cunts.

What would doing this involve?

Zephro
Nov 23, 2000

I suppose I could part with one and still be feared...
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/jun/20/buried-alive-the-old-men-stuck-in-britains-prisons

quote:

Prisons are now the UK’s largest provider of residential care for frail, elderly men
A long and pro read

Paul.Power
Feb 7, 2009

The three roles of APCs:
Transports.
Supply trucks.
Distractions.

Pissflaps posted:

What would doing this involve?

If nothing else, it'd probably involve drafting a bunch of preserved railways that use old trackbeds into providing full commercial services.

Maybe the government could pay for the extension of some of them to their original terminus?

Paul.Power fucked around with this message at 07:14 on Jun 20, 2017

atelier morgan
Mar 11, 2003

super-scientific, ultra-gay

Lipstick Apathy

california alone released about ten thousand elderly or disabled inmates a few years ago to try and combat rampant overcrowding it didn't work, but that's what happens when you're at over 200% capacity

it is real bad over here in 'murica

it was worse before the ACA b/c there were a lot of cases where inmates with chronic health problems would just reoffend b/c they couldn't possibly afford treatment outside, which we can look forward to starting up again once it gets gutted

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry
What a world we live in, where an old poor person would have to go to jail to get some measure of care.

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

UberJew posted:

it was worse before the ACA b/c there were a lot of cases where inmates with chronic health problems would just reoffend b/c they couldn't possibly afford treatment outside

:unsmigghh: hahaha death to capitalism and its minion Amerikkka!

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


If Beeching had never happened we'd probably have high speed rail all over the drat place by now. It's an embarrassment that we hardly have any - we invented the loving train! And I fail to see the controversy in our first proper high speed rail line connecting our biggest city to our second biggest city (and now extending to our third).

Deptfordx
Dec 23, 2013

Itzena posted:

We're going to end up with a deal that's basically "You effectively stay in Europe but you don't get any rebate, you don't get any opt-outs, and you don't get any representation. Now pay us" and I will laugh and laugh and laugh.

This is exactly what I told my Brexit loving idiot friend would be the best case scenario, in contrast to the new land of free milk and honey lager and chips he was envisaging.

Well. It'd be utterly humiliating, but it'd be survivable. I'll take it.

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1dNtRJ0PXk

Fans
Jun 27, 2013

A reptile dysfunction
http://news.sky.com/story/lord-heseltine-tory-voters-dying-off-at-a-rate-of-2-a-year-10920843

quote:

Former Conservative deputy prime minister Lord Heseltine has warned his party that its electoral base is dying off at a rate of 2% a year.

Cerv
Sep 14, 2004

This is a silly post with little news value.

learnincurve posted:

3. gently caress off gently caress off and gently caress off again. Don't gently caress up the countryside for trains that will get you and a few of your friends from Sheffield to London half an hour quicker, when people on average wages can't afford the regular fares let alone whatever the extortionate fares on this thing will be. Sort the problems caused by the beeching report first you absolute cunts.
What problems do you mean? Like the miles of track being torn up? Cos building new track solves that.
HS2 is required to free up capacity on the WCML for exactly the sort of services you're asking for. Think before you parrot nonsensical NIMBY taking points.

suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!
It's well-known that building infrastructure is bad, you know :pseudo:

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh

Cerv posted:

What problems do you mean? Like the miles of track being torn up? Cos building new track solves that.
HS2 is required to free up capacity on the WCML for exactly the sort of services you're asking for. Think before you parrot nonsensical NIMBY taking points.

Oh now. You have literally no idea what beeching did to everywhere outside the Home Counties if you throw that argument back at me. What we need is all the little towns and villages connected to each other and to major cities, if not by train then the bus service must be improved to compensate. I would complain about Derbyshire being split into two and it taking 4 hours to travel 20 miles by train, but then I look at wales and think "poor bastards".

Building new tracks between major cities does not solve that problem. It does however solve a major problem for people who have expense accounts. Now they can get to London from Birmingham 20 mins quicker and all of the plebs will be on the other slow train so they won't have to worry about encountering them. Huzzah, three cheers for the Tory party.

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames
I think modernising and improving rail links between our major economic centres should be a greater priority than putting on trains between small rural towns.

Sanford
Jun 30, 2007

...and rarely post!


learnincurve posted:

I would complain about Derbyshire being split into two

HS2 will take this to a literal extreme by smashing right through the middle of our local country park in order to build an entirely unnecessary spur line to link the track to the massively inappropriate station in the middle of Sheffield, rather than the much more appropriate, more modern station at Sheffield Meadowhall. This will save a 12-minute journey from one station to the other.

Edit: apparently HS2 will have to slow down quite a lot in order to join the central Sheffield line, so it won't save any time at all. I'm reading that from a leaflet entitled "STOP HS2 NOW" so have some salt with it.

Sanford fucked around with this message at 08:37 on Jun 20, 2017

Zephro
Nov 23, 2000

I suppose I could part with one and still be feared...
I like this image, but what's the cartoon it's originally from?

Tesla was right
Apr 3, 2009

Whats with all the robot sex avatars?

Zephro posted:

I like this image, but what's the cartoon it's originally from?

"Kelly", political cartoons from The Onion. Dunno what that specific one was from.

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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Zephro posted:

Lol why on earth does Britain want/need a crewed space programme

I mean why does anyone really but still that's just bizarre and will never happen.

Edit: oh I get it, it must be part of this general 1950s nostalgia trip we've all been having since Brexit
I assume it's for the same reason as every other space program ever, we're looking for a replacement for Trident that doesn't require Donald Trump's ongoing permission to use it, but without screaming "new missiles over here!"

Blue Streak 2: General Electric Boondoggle :toot:

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