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The most iconic scene in the movie ruined it, because in the comic the moment actually sucked and wasn't exciting.
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Push El Burrito posted:I only know like 2 things about Martian Manhunter: he likes Oreos and he hates genocide. You can add a 3rd to that list: Bonds with Batman over their mutual interest in Sailor Moon.  The name being a giveaway because it belongs to Sailor Mars. Apparently, the writer said "Give me a Japanese woman's name with a reference to Mars in it" and didn't care what that reference actually was.
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Jun 20, 2017 21:32
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I choose to believe that Batman just loving loves Sailor Moon. Alfred had to spend hours convincing 13 year old Bruce Wayne that he needed to be something scarier than a magical girl if he wanted to fight crime.
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Jun 20, 2017 21:39
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Well Batman does spend his time fighting evil by moonlight, while Bruce Wayne is busy winning love by daylight. And I don't recall him ever running from a real fight.
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Jun 20, 2017 21:43
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But doesn't he live for love, and fight for family?
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Jun 20, 2017 21:50
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Cuchulain posted:And I don't recall him ever running from a real fight. 
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Jun 20, 2017 21:54
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Batman would call that strategic repositioning of assets
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Jun 20, 2017 21:57
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Bongo Bill posted:Differing from source material is not ruining. It is when it completely changes the characterization. Skwirl posted:Fitting since that's where we get the word "laconic" from. Exactly. The point is, the Spartans were literally a country full of snarky bastards. In the comic, Leonidas didn't give a poo poo; some fools got up in his grill, and he disposed of them like tossing out the trash. In the movie, he goes into the whole vein-popping roid rage routine. It's exactly the same problem as the 'you know what happens to a toad that gets hit by lightning' line; a different delivery of the exact same thing changes the entire tone, the entire motivation, everything. You know, let alone the fact that one of the entire points of the comic is that team work, disciplined formations and proper military behavior were able to hold out against the larger numbers of the Persians, but in the movie, they're just running around like superheroes. Yes, I get that the framing device is Dilios hyping up the newbs, but again, it gives the kids the wrong lesson. Oh, and the 'boy lovers' line, given that Sparta had institutionalized the practice of pedagogy. 
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Work Friend Keven posted:The most iconic scene in the movie ruined it, because in the comic the moment actually sucked and wasn't exciting. We should judge all works of art by how many unfunny memes they create.
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Jun 20, 2017 23:04
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Cuchulain posted:Well Batman does spend his time fighting evil by moonlight, while Bruce Wayne is busy winning love by daylight. Does this make Catwoman Tuxedo Mask?
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TheCenturion posted:It is when it completely changes the characterization. No, changes still only make things different.
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Lurdiak posted:We should judge all works of art by how many unfunny memes they create. I've heard worse ideas.
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ImpAtom posted:I choose to believe that Batman just loving loves Sailor Moon. Alfred had to spend hours convincing 13 year old Bruce Wayne that he needed to be something scarier than a magical girl if he wanted to fight crime. I choose to believe that Batman hates all anime but spends a lot of time watching 12 episodes of a series at the same time in both dubbed and subtitled form at 1.5 speed so that he can immediately recognize if the riddler makes a reference to an anime when alluding to a potential crime.
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Jun 21, 2017 05:58
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Batman watched the Big O and realized he needs bigger Batmechs. Now I want the return of the composite Batman/Superman mech. EDIT: And now I'm kind of sad remembering that Sam Loeb was supposed to work with his dad and Pat Lee on a follow up to that issue of Superman/Batman with Superboy and Robin in the mech suits. Open Marriage Night fucked around with this message at 06:34 on Jun 21, 2017 |
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Jun 21, 2017 06:28
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The only time Batman tried anime was when Commissioner Gordon insisted that they watch Patlabor together.
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Jun 21, 2017 06:42
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And then Gordons was the Batsman.
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Batman vs. Lord Death Man.
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Thomas Wayne had a collection of Ogon Bat story cards he brought back from Japan after the War.
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The Sexual Shiite posted:I choose to believe that Batman hates all anime but spends a lot of time watching 12 episodes of a series at the same time in both dubbed and subtitled form at 1.5 speed so that he can immediately recognize if the riddler makes a reference to an anime when alluding to a potential crime. Didn't he actually do that with foreign art films?
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TheCenturion posted:Oh, and the 'boy lovers' line, given that Sparta had institutionalized the practice of pedagogy. Well sure, nobody's born knowing how to jump in slow motion.
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TheCenturion posted:Oh, and the 'boy lovers' line, given that Sparta had institutionalized the practice of pedagogy. The study of teaching?
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Jun 21, 2017 09:38
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There's only one way to pedagogy these boys some manners and it's pederasty.
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Jun 21, 2017 09:46
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Ponsonby Britt posted:The only time Batman tried anime was when Commissioner Gordon insisted that they watch Patlabor together. (While watching the anim together.) Batman: That robot looks so dumb. I wouldn't be caught dead with ears that long. (Flash forward to the Super Heavy arc years later, just as Jim is about to get into the suit.) James Gordon: Just according to Keikaku*! * = Translator's note: Keikaku means plan.
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Top 10 Issue #11 Just reading this for the first time. It's really loving good!
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Johnny Aztec posted:Please to be telling me what trade that is in, so I can get my comic shop to order it. ISBN 9780785143673 has the whole arc. It's a decent story, not too different from The Prophecy in its general shape. You also get Knuckles O'Shaughnessy and the Undead G-Man:  This seems funnier in context.
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Jun 21, 2017 16:22
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Isn't that also the one that has Ghost Trucker?
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biracial bear for uncut posted:The study of teaching? Yes sorry, I had 'pedophila,' 'pederasty,' and the agoge all mixed up in my poor little brain. Also, Spartans were famed for giving up their seats to old people while watching the Olympics.
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Keeshhound posted:Isn't that also the one that has Ghost Trucker? It is. I was going to post the full sequence but it's pretty long and not funny at all. If you want to check it, it's at Aaron's Ghost Rider #33.
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Samuringa posted:It is. I was going to post the full sequence but it's pretty long and not funny at all. If you want to check it, it's at Aaron's Ghost Rider #33. I think it's pretty funny to see all the other ghost riders they came up with, but it is basically the whole issue. The other one-off villain I remember from that run, not at all related to Ghost Trucker, is The Highwayman: 
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I like that Wages of Fear/Sorcerer reference.
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Oh my god, that's from US 1, isn't it?
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LordSaturn posted:I think it's pretty funny to see all the other ghost riders they came up with, but it is basically the whole issue. The Highwayman is not a one-off villain. Evil Mastermind posted:Oh my god, that's from US 1, isn't it? Yes, yes it is. It's an amazing deep pull.
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Lurdiak posted:The Highwayman is not a one-off villain. Well, okay, one-off in the sense of "he's in this run for one issue, not part of the main arc, and not killed conclusively, which happens a few times in this run". You're going to have to buy the book if you want to see what his eight-track player looks like.
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How much luckier than a rabbits foot is a baby's foot
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LordSaturn posted:Well, okay, one-off in the sense of "he's in this run for one issue, not part of the main arc, and not killed conclusively, which happens a few times in this run". Highwayman not only survived, he later showed up in a team-up between US1 and Rocket Raccoon. It was amazing and I'm not sure I didn't dream it.
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Lurdiak posted:Highwayman not only survived, he later showed up in a team-up between US1 and Rocket Raccoon. It was amazing and I'm not sure I didn't dream it. It's not a dream? It's not an imaginary story?!
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zoux posted:How much luckier than a rabbits foot is a baby's foot Not very lucky for the baby
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Phy posted:Not very lucky for the baby Much luckier for the rabbit though.
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Lurdiak posted:Highwayman not only survived, he later showed up in a team-up between US1 and Rocket Raccoon. It was amazing and I'm not sure I didn't dream it. Close. The team-up was with Deadpool, but the Highwayman somehow had genetically modified raccoon minions causing the characters to mention Rocket for comparison.
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I think the real question is how he kept getting work as he and his cab mutated.
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