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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


I have one of those 30 quid dehumidifiers from Argos and it has been pulling its god drat weight this week.

Tonight is worse than last night and I'd like to seriously reiterate my previous suggestion of freezer packs lightly wrapped in kitchen towel pressed against the torso. Got me through some bad summers that has.

e: Ugh, okay. Uhhh.... The Commodore 1581 was a 3½-inch double-sided double-density floppy disk drive for the Commodore 64, and it came with a big-rear end power brick because everything back then was shite.

Doctor_Fruitbat fucked around with this message at 22:44 on Jun 20, 2017

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ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends
https://twitter.com/PeteApps/status/875768296888520704

Jesus Christ, selling a fire assessment contract to the cheapest bidder?

quote:

The organisation managing Grenfell Tower appointed a company to carry out its fire risk assessments at the “most competitive price” in 2010, board papers reveal.

The papers, which detail board meetings of the Kensington and Chelsea Tenant Management Organisation (KCTMO), show the organisation settled on a consultancy which “was willing to challenge the fire brigade on our behalf if he considered their requirements to be excessive”.

Grenfell Tower was destroyed in the worst tower block fire in the sector’s history on Wednesday, with the building’s fire risk assessment thrown sharply into the spotlight as a result.

There are no legal requirements on who should carry out fire risk assessments or what qualifications they should hold.

The papers show KCTMO decided in a meeting of the board in May 2010 “to see if a more competitive price could be obtained” for fire risk assessments of their medium-risk buildings.

According to the BBC, Grenfell Tower had a medium risk rating in 2016.

A report to the board by Janice Wray, health and safety advisor at KCTMO, on fire risk assessments, noted that Salvus Consulting had carried out assessments on 100 potentially high-risk properties.

It continued: “It has been agreed that we should seek to appoint a consultancy partner to carry out the medium-risk programme following competitive tendering.”

In a subsequent meeting in July 2010, another report by Ms Wray announced that a new consultant had been found, who “offered the best quality and also the most competitive price”.

It is unknown who the new partner was, or whether they carried out the last recorded full fire risk assessment on Grenfell Tower in 2015.

Ms Wray’s report refers to them only as “he”. The minutes from a December 2010 meeting note that the consultant “was willing to challenge” the fire brigade over “excessive requirements”.

According to the minutes of the May meeting, the London Fire Brigade indicated “that it was comfortable with this approach, provided that standards were maintained”.

Information obtained by Inside Housing under the Freedom of Information Act indicates that Grenfell Tower last received a full fire risk assessment in December 2015, before a full refurbishment of the building was completed.

No one from KCTMO, the Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea or the London Fire Brigade was available to comment.

Thirty deaths have been confirmed from the blaze, with dozens of people still missing.

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

Firos posted:

Ever since the GE I've been following this thread like a thrilling TV show. So suspenseful!!

all we need is a few Tories to have a reason to break ranks that outweighs their unending desire for power. And I mean a reason that would appeal to a Tory, so anything selfless or idealistic is right out.

someone offer them a lucrative book deal maybe?

Rumda
Nov 4, 2009

Moth Lesbian Comrade

Angepain posted:

all we need is a few Tories to have a reason to break ranks that outweighs their unending desire for power. And I mean a reason that would appeal to a Tory, so anything selfless or idealistic is right out.

someone offer them a lucrative book deal maybe?

Young Boys?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Prince John posted:

loving hell. I need some mind bleach after reading that.
It turned into a comedy for me right about "Had the Labour party had its wits about it, and elected Yvette Cooper as its leader"

ookiimarukochan
Apr 4, 2011

NotJustANumber99 posted:

But so rarely as to be unbelievable as an excuse without proof. Whereas here no one's going to question a late train.

It's more that here, unlike Japan, no one's going to fine you at least half a day's salary for being 5 minutes late to the office.

Party Boat
Nov 1, 2007

where did that other dog come from

who is he


Thrifting Day! posted:

Only takes a couple of Tories to abstain or 1 to vote it down to potentially guarantee the end of May.

That's a big choice

Queen's Speech votes tend to be pretty much for show and as such you get a substantial number but not all MPs voting in them. This one looks like it'll be different and will be interesting just for that.

I'd be very surprised if any tories abstained never mind rebelled, especially if the DUP stay away. It'd be a career ending move.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

ookiimarukochan posted:

It's more that here, unlike Japan, no one's going to fine you at least half a day's salary for being 5 minutes late to the office.
Give the shits that manage temps a few years to go further down the rabbithole.

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

Party Boat posted:

Queen's Speech votes tend to be pretty much for show and as such you get a substantial number but not all MPs voting in them. This one looks like it'll be different and will be interesting just for that.

I'd be very surprised if any tories abstained never mind rebelled, especially if the DUP stay away. It'd be a career ending move.

Maybe some of the more europhilic Tories could consider it a decent gamble given how much of a pig's ear May's going to make of Brexit. That would of course rely on a Tory having actual principle. Also, I'm wondering if some might not be tempted by the opportunity of leaving Labour with the mess and potentially poisoning their name. If Brexit is going to be a cock up either way there will surely be Tories who see the writing on the wall and are willing to sacrifice 5 years now to put themselves in a far stronger long term position.

Skinty McEdger
Mar 9, 2008

I have NEVER received the respect I deserve as the leader and founder of The Masterflock, the internet's largest and oldest Christopher Masterpiece fan group in all of history, and I DEMAND that changes. From now on, you will respect Skinty McEdger!

Party Boat posted:

Queen's Speech votes tend to be pretty much for show and as such you get a substantial number but not all MPs voting in them. This one looks like it'll be different and will be interesting just for that.

I'd be very surprised if any tories abstained never mind rebelled, especially if the DUP stay away. It'd be a career ending move.

On the other hand there is the Ken Clarke factor. What if someone at the end of their career sees an opportunity to make a principled stand and put their name in the history books.

It's exactly as you say though, what are normally symbolic votes like the Queens speech and the majority of budgets suddenly because of the make up of parliament have become much more serious and perilous for the government. It was the situation they foresaw for the Lib Dem coalition that never came to pass when they introduced the 2011 act. Of course the obvious thing to do is to find ways to avoid having them as much as possible.

Clyde Radcliffe
Oct 19, 2014

Midnight- posted:

What the hell do the DUP actually want for Brexit?

They don't want a hard border, but don't want NI to have a 'special' status that's different from rest of UK. Now apparently don't want to be in the custom union.

How the hell do you achieve all of that?

I asked this of the quadrennial door-knocker that came round pre-election looking for my vote, and the non-answer I got basically boiled down to "the Shinners are pro-EU, so we're against it".

It's a position of utter madness. NI has benefited from EU membership more that any other part of the UK. Post-Good Friday Agreement, Belfast has been transformed from a shithole post-industrial city with a history of violence to a fairly nice place to work/live. There have been massive urban regeneration schemes and millions of pounds thrown at high-tech industries to set up shop here. And all that money came from the EU's Peace & Reconciliation programme. Even in Farage's wettest amphibian-mind dreams there's no upside whatsoever for NI if Brexit goes ahead.

All these news reports about the DUP being tough, experienced negotiators are BS. The NI Assembly has staggered from one crisis to the next for over a decade because the DUP's negotiation stance is "NEVER NEVER NEVER" on loving anything that has the support of Sinn Fein or the more moderate parties here.

I'm never going to feel bad for the Tories, but I feel a certain sympathy for them trying to negotiate a coalition with a bunch of intransigent tub-thumpers with all the flexibility and political acumen of a concrete breezeblock.

Clyde Radcliffe fucked around with this message at 23:06 on Jun 20, 2017

Party Boat
Nov 1, 2007

where did that other dog come from

who is he


I'd be amazed if a tory did rebel. It would be their career with any party down the drain and the right wing press would paint them as public enemy number one.

e: Ken Clarke was the name that came to my mind too. But I still think it's really outlandish, for all that he's a Europhile in his last stint as an MP I'd say his loyalty to party runs deeper

Party Boat fucked around with this message at 23:07 on Jun 20, 2017

staberind
Feb 20, 2008

but i dont wanna be a spaceship
Fun Shoe

ThomasPaine posted:

Maybe some of the more europhilic Tories could consider it a decent gamble given how much of a pig's ear May's going to make of Brexit. That would of course rely on a Tory having actual principle. Also, I'm wondering if some might not be tempted by the opportunity of leaving Labour with the mess and potentially poisoning their name. If Brexit is going to be a cock up either way there will surely be Tories who see the writing on the wall and are willing to sacrifice 5 years now to put themselves in a far stronger long term position.

from what I have seen of tories, patience & sacrifice are not exactly strong points.

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

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Guavanaut posted:

It turned into a comedy for me right about "Had the Labour party had its wits about it, and elected Yvette Cooper as its leader"

The spectator is truly brilliant at being the idiot, who thinks their not, version of the Daily mail.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

EULER'VE TO SEE IT VENN SOMEONE CALLS IT THE WRONG THING AND PROVOKES MY WRATH

BobbyThompson posted:

I left prospect a couple of years ago after a decade of membership. They got "recruit new members" tourettes.

Prospect magazine has nothing to do with Prospect the union AFAIK.

EmptyVessel
Oct 30, 2012

staberind posted:

from what I have seen of tories, patience & sacrifice are not exactly strong points.

Good. I want their hubris to destroy them and anything that might distance them from taking full credit for the shitshow of Brexit reduces the likelihood of that.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Party Boat posted:

I'd be amazed if a tory did rebel. It would be their career with any party down the drain and the right wing press would paint them as public enemy number one.

e: Ken Clarke was the name that came to my mind too. But I still think it's really outlandish, for all that he's a Europhile in his last stint as an MP I'd say his loyalty to party runs deeper

Tbf he's been a europhile since the John Major 'bastard' days.

Molemitts
Jan 1, 2016
Can someone tell me why Jacob Rees-Mogg is a forced meme now? Seen a few pretty dire recommended Facebook posts and YouTube videos.

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall

Molemitts posted:

Can someone tell me why Jacob Rees-Mogg is a forced meme now? Seen a few pretty dire recommended Facebook posts and YouTube videos.

stuffy 19th century throwback wanker is actually a better brand than Modern Tory

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Molemitts posted:

Can someone tell me why Jacob Rees-Mogg is a forced meme now? Seen a few pretty dire recommended Facebook posts and YouTube videos.

He was doing the rounds on social media because he was recently given a £7.2mn grant from the government to do up his wife's mansion because "cultural heritage" but voted for the Bedroom Tax / lowering DLA/PIP. Basically as ToryHypocrisy.txt

Pocky In My Pocket
Jan 27, 2005

Giant robots shouldn't fight!






Could someone who wants to lead the tories convince some backbencher with a cushy job in exchance for tanking the queens speech? That seems kinda plausible to me.

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/video/2017/may/11/bbc-camera-operator-tended-to-after-being-run-over-by-corbyns-car-video


communist

BobbyThompson
Mar 23, 2001

Lord of the Llamas posted:

Prospect magazine has nothing to do with Prospect the union AFAIK.

Phew, it ended up so pissy for me. Made PCS look tame.

Party Boat
Nov 1, 2007

where did that other dog come from

who is he


Outside of 11 dimensional chess shenanigans, you don't set yourself up as leader of a team by causing that team to noisily poo poo its pants on the most public of stages. Anyone with an eye on the throne is going to keep a lid on it until we're back to business as usual.

Demiurge4
Aug 10, 2011

Party Boat posted:

Outside of 11 dimensional chess shenanigans, you don't set yourself up as leader of a team by causing that team to noisily poo poo its pants on the most public of stages. Anyone with an eye on the throne is going to keep a lid on it until we're back to business as usual.

Yeah but chaos is a ladder.

Molemitts
Jan 1, 2016

Tesseraction posted:

He was doing the rounds on social media because he was recently given a £7.2mn grant from the government to do up his wife's mansion because "cultural heritage" but voted for the Bedroom Tax / lowering DLA/PIP. Basically as ToryHypocrisy.txt

I've been seeing positive memes about him. Like a bunch of Tories are forcing him to be a meme, unless it's ironic and I'm missing something. I'd link to the Facebook page but I don't want "jacob rees-mog memes" in my Facebook search history.

Ardent Communist
Oct 17, 2010

ALLAH! MU'AMMAR! LIBYA WA BAS!
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/environment/uk-would-back-full-communism-if-it-provided-air-conditioning-20170620129904

Just something that came up on my feed and made me laugh. Seems pretty relevant to this thread.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


ThomasPaine posted:

Maybe some of the more europhilic Tories could consider it a decent gamble given how much of a pig's ear May's going to make of Brexit. That would of course rely on a Tory having actual principle. Also, I'm wondering if some might not be tempted by the opportunity of leaving Labour with the mess and potentially poisoning their name. If Brexit is going to be a cock up either way there will surely be Tories who see the writing on the wall and are willing to sacrifice 5 years now to put themselves in a far stronger long term position.

No Tory will bring down the government this quickly when Corbyn is on a wave of momentum and they've sincerely convinced themselves he is going to throw them all in Gulags if he becomes PM.

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes
i know it'll be bad for their careers and the rest of their lives and all but any tory backbenchers reading please think about how much voting against the queen's speech would be Mad Bants. thankyou. you know what to do.

a neurotic ai
Mar 22, 2012
So, any UKMT regulars headed to Glastonbury for the weekend? I know it's terribly 'rah rah rah' of me but it's basically my holiday this year and I get to see the absolute boy.

As an aside, could you imagine Theresa May on the pyramid stage? I think she'd dissolve into a puddle.

TheHoodedClaw
Jul 26, 2008

Loving Africa Chaps posted:

If you're not watching hospital you should be.

Seconding this wholeheartedly. It was on BBC2 at 9pm, and it's an astonishing hour of TV. You know the drill, BBC has wide access to film in a hospital etc etc. This episode is the day of the Westminster Bridge attack, and you really should watch.

Skinty McEdger
Mar 9, 2008

I have NEVER received the respect I deserve as the leader and founder of The Masterflock, the internet's largest and oldest Christopher Masterpiece fan group in all of history, and I DEMAND that changes. From now on, you will respect Skinty McEdger!

The sun being out has caused anarchy to descend upon Ascot.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-40343086

TomViolence
Feb 19, 2013

PLEASE ASK ABOUT MY 80,000 WORD WALLACE AND GROMIT SLASH FICTION. PLEASE.

Skinty McEdger posted:

The sun being out has caused anarchy to descend upon Ascot.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-40343086

jfc i hate these people

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

lol
https://twitter.com/jonsnowC4/status/877175289960435713

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

Skinty McEdger posted:

The sun being out has caused anarchy to descend upon Ascot.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-40343086

Oh it's too hot is it? I'd like to propose a revised dress code for ascot

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Ocrassus posted:

So, any UKMT regulars headed to Glastonbury for the weekend? I know it's terribly 'rah rah rah' of me but it's basically my holiday this year and I get to see the absolute boy.

As an aside, could you imagine Theresa May on the pyramid stage? I think she'd dissolve into a puddle.

I have strong feelings about Glasto. Mostly the revolve around the absence of metal bands when you consider how big a promoter of groups like Napalm Death & Carcass that a guy like John Peel was. That said, there's always something worth catching on telly, like last year they had The Family Stone & Funkadelic bands jamming together (without Sly obviously because he's a broken mess) & that was great. This year I'll definitely catch Run the Jewels, Chic, Kate Tempest, Sleaford Mods & the Boy Better Know collective, and assuming it's streamed on the BBC I'd also like to watch Justin Townes Earle & Cabbage

I just looked at the full line up and have seen that Wormrot & Extreme Noise Terror on the bill. loving hell. That's ridiculously cool. Maybe they've finally gotten over their fear of evil heavy metal fans somehow ruining their hippie wankfest.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009


bwahahahahahaahahahahahahahahaahaha

*pulls out wallet full of moths*

boohoohoohoohoohoo

staberind
Feb 20, 2008

but i dont wanna be a spaceship
Fun Shoe

Madness' "house of fun" Kept out duran duran from the number one spot with a "home made" music vid, apparently millions were spent making Rio.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ2X9SANsME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3W6yf6c-FA

Madness>Duran Duran in 1982.

Essentially, good policies should dictate who gets to live at Number 10, Downing St, not how much people waste on calling the other lot cunts.

staberind fucked around with this message at 01:12 on Jun 21, 2017

jaete
Jun 21, 2009


Nap Ghost

WeAreTheRomans posted:

Glad to see the UK thread is just as susceptible to breakfast derail as the Irish thread

There's no such thing as Irish muffins, if they want muffins in Ireland they just go to England and get English muffins. If you accidentally order Irish muffins, it's just beef. Just a big piece of beef.

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Seaside Loafer
Feb 7, 2012

Waiting for a train, I needed a shit. You won't bee-lieve what happened next

staberind posted:

Madness' "house of fun" Kept out duran duran from the number one spot with a "home made" music vid, apparently millions were spent making Rio.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ2X9SANsME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3W6yf6c-FA

Madness>Duran Duran in 1982.

Essentially, good policies should dictate who gets to live at Number 10, Downing St, not how much people waste on calling the other lot cunts.
I never listened to music lyrics when I was a kid and suddenly house of fun makes sense! Thank you! And still very funky. Refuse to watch rio on general prinicple though.

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