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prom candy posted:Maybe Dems want to vote for honest to goodness left-wing candidates? dont start with this dumb poo poo, a lot of the dems in dekalb county's piece of ga-6 are first or second gen immigrants and dont care about your idiot party purity nonsense
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Teriyaki Koinku posted:*furiously jams square peg into round hole for Nth time* Their voters know how to get the policy outcomes they want and ours don't.
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haveblue posted:Negative posting ITT I heard Joe Manchin waited outside a polling station with a gun and told them not to vote for Ossoff.
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The gently caress is wrong with you people.
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Hollismason posted:The gently caress is wrong with you people.
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You know the GOP was using this election to decide to double down or not, right? Enjoy the double-down! Enjoy the AHCA!
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I want Ossoff to win because I want a Trump meltdown tomorrow morning on Twitter. I don't really care about "building momentum" towards 2018.
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Honestly, South Carolina is way more interesting to me than Georgia. It had a +20 R lean and is at a virtual tie with 70% reporting.
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Willo567 posted:This is why the nothing matters crowd pisses me off. They bitch that everything is poo poo, but when given an opportunity to change that, they make no initiative That's bullshit, the nothing matters crowd is just acknowledging that people suck and they won't change. Blaming them is like blaming astronomers for asteroids.
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You can blame Republicans for being lovely, but the Democrats are the ones that don't vote. The overarching problem the Democratic Party has is that its voters don't bother to come out. The last two big Democratic elections were due to reduced Republican turnout. Liberal candidates, moderate candidates, and conservative Democratic candidates all get the same results. Democrats turn out at proportionally lower rates and usually win due to have more voters in the aggregate that offsets the lower turnout.
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Covok posted:You know the GOP was using this election to decide to double down or not, right? Enjoy the double-down! Enjoy the AHCA! Why yes, they are going to see a result where someone wins by 1% as the referendum they need to TEAR IT ALL DOWN
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Fulchrum posted:Honestly, South Carolina is way more interesting to me than Georgia. It had a +20 R lean and is at a virtual tie with 70% reporting. But I've been informed that there isn't a wave or a backlash, so I don't understand how to view this outside of 1-win, 0-lose
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Madkal posted:Why yes, they are going to see a result where someone wins by 1% as the referendum they need to TEAR IT ALL DOWN To Rs, a win is a win! To Ds, losing is a win because "no doomsaying!"
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:You can blame Republicans for being lovely, but the Democrats are the ones that don't vote. From this we learn that Democrats are lazy and nothing else at all because there is no other reason.
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Fulchrum posted:Honestly, South Carolina is way more interesting to me than Georgia. It had a +20 R lean and is at a virtual tie with 70% reporting.
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So far, the only two ways the Democrats have found to override their turnout problem are: 1) Republicans decide not to vote 2) Obama Neither of those are reliable ways to win.
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Ague Proof posted:I heard Joe Manchin waited outside a polling station with a gun and told them not to vote for Ossoff. mumble mumble.. "coastal elites.. putting beans in their chili.." he was heard to say
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Madkal posted:Why yes, they are going to see a result where someone wins by 1% as the referendum they need to TEAR IT ALL DOWN Holy poo poo you think the right wing operates in terms of degrees of victory? Are you blind?
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Madkal posted:Why yes, they are going to see a result where someone wins by 1% as the referendum they need to TEAR IT ALL DOWN As a reminder the current president lost the popular vote and has a picture of his election map in a place of honor in the White House, and the previous Republican president had to cut off recounts and get declared president by SCOTUS and called it a mandate.
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enraged_camel posted:If those Ossoff campaign emails are real, and Ossoff loses, he should line up his fundraising committee against the wall and shoot all of them in the loving head. the, uh, problem with this race wasn't lack of funds
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:So far, the only two ways the Democrats have found to override their turnout problem are: Give in to your hatred and face to another 8 years of black, eloquent milquetoast centrist democratic rule while letting the state party suffer I present to you, Corey Booker 
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:The overarching problem the Democratic Party has is that its voters either don't bother to come out or are targeted by various voter suppression campaigns. FTFY
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Well you can look at Republican strongholds and see dems making inroads, or you can say doesn't matter if the race was close because the Republican won so they have nothing to fear.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:You can blame Republicans for being lovely, but the Democrats are the ones that don't vote. Bernie got people out in record numbers for primaries that normally see a roomful of people. Democrats and Independents will come out if you give them a compelling message and vision more than "Look at the bad man!"
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AstheWorldWorlds posted:Holy poo poo you think the right wing operates in terms of degrees of victory? Are you blind? But we won the POPULAR VOTE by 3 million. Clearly, the Rs will go more left due to a clear unpopularity and lack of mandate. (Sarcasm)
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enraged_camel posted:If those Ossoff campaign emails are real, and Ossoff loses, he should line up his fundraising committee against the wall and shoot all of them in the loving head. He raised almost 50% more than Handel and the vast majority of it came from out of state. His fundraising was not the problem and was actually incredibly good.
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Man I needed some hope, I need to disconnect from this poo poo again. This thread though, it just keeps calling me back. I'm glad I had enough foresight to not talk about this at work so I don't have to explain my disappointment tomorrow. I'm probably the only one there that knew people were voting in Georgia today.
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Hollismason posted:The gently caress is wrong with you people. So many things
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Glazier posted:Bernie got people out in record numbers for primaries that normally see a roomful of people. Democrats and Independents will come out if you give them a compelling message and vision more than "Look at the bad man!" Bernie got fewer votes than Hillary.
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Madkal posted:Well you can look at Republican strongholds and see dems making inroads, or you can say doesn't matter if the race was close because the Republican won so they have nothing to fear. Power in America is binary. You lose, you lose! Deal with it!
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The Republicans will be so goddamn emboldened they're going to quadruple down on the AHCA. It'll pass the Senate 600-0 and then Trump will sign it so hard the White House bursts into flames.
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AstheWorldWorlds posted:Holy poo poo you think the right wing operates in terms of degrees of victory? Are you blind? Believe it or not, there's much more at play here than GA-06 when it comes to the AHCA.
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boner confessor posted:dont start with this dumb poo poo, a lot of the dems in dekalb county's piece of ga-6 are first or second gen immigrants and dont care about your idiot party purity nonsense *vast majority of Americans desperate for left-wing economic policies in multiple polls* *Dems begrudgingly offer up weak centrist candidate* *Meager Dem voter turn-out, GOP wins* "loving party purists trying to tear us apart! Leftists and stupid voters are to blame! They don't understand their basic civic duty!  "
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Glazier posted:Bernie got people out in record numbers for primaries that normally see a roomful of people. Democrats and Independents will come out if you give them a compelling message and vision more than "Look at the bad man!" Yeah he lost that primary challenge, though. By quite a bit. And it wasn't "the DNC rigging it or he would have won"
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"If they can't get out of their house to vote-" That's great for all the people who have free time on Tuesdays and aren't forced to work that day or they get a break that's too short to deal with the intentionally-long wait times at their location. Old rich white people, the GOP bread-and-butter, have structural advantages in these kinds of off-season elections.
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haveblue posted:The Republicans will be so goddamn emboldened they're going to quadruple down on the AHCA. It'll pass the Senate 600-0 and then Trump will sign it so hard the White House bursts into flames. This but unironically.
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Hollismason posted:The gently caress is wrong with you people.
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I think at this points if Dems don't get out to vote they get what they deserve, even if that means losing abortion access or death due to the AHCA. This is democracy. You can't stay home and cry about losing a election. You get the government you deserve and if you aren't wiling to stand up for your very livelihood than you are going to get hosed over from here to eternity and it will be that way until you die. There is no white savior. We save ourselves or we die. Simple as that. We can't get saved by other people. And if you're a Democrat. I warn you now. Do what is necessary and what you can get away with to survive. If you have no health insurance - lie, cheat, steal, rob, do anything to get the money you have to. That will be you're only hope.
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Teriyaki Koinku posted:*vast majority of Americans desperate for left-wing economic policies in multiple polls* please cite any poll local to ga06 that indicates support for left wing economic polices
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:So far, the only two ways the Democrats have found to override their turnout problem are: What about '98? Glazier posted:Bernie got people out in record numbers for primaries that normally see a roomful of people. Democrats and Independents will come out if you give them a compelling message and vision more than "Look at the bad man!" With a message of "Look at the bad woman!"
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