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I'm laughing real hard right now, but I'm also kinda apprehensive. Who is he going to poach for Justice? Eva Joly? Elisabeth Guigou? Jacques Toubon? Valérie Pécresse? Everything is possible with that guy.
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Kassad posted:Manuel Valls! gross
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Man I wished every terrorist attack began with the guy loudly announcing he wants to blow up an empty train platform after rush hour and then getting loving shot dead by a squad of soldiers.
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Jun 21, 2017 08:27
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Kurtofan posted:gross Just stating the worst, but unlikely, possibility to get it out of the way. Still hoping that Valls loses the appeal about the election in Evry.
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Deltasquid posted:Man I wished every terrorist attack began with the guy loudly announcing he wants to blow up an empty train platform after rush hour and then getting loving shot dead by a squad of soldiers. quote:he cried: ‘Allahu Akbar’ and he blew up a trolley. rip infidel trolley
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That trolley was haram
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Denying logistic infrastructure to the kuffar infidels bro. https://youtu.be/VCpVh8Wox1U
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the little poo poo is trying to form a pro-macron parliamentary group http://lelab.europe1.fr/manuel-valls-essaye-de-creer-son-propre-a-lassemblee-nationale-3367508 Republicans will make two groups in the assembly, a pro-macron and an anti-macron https://www.lesechos.fr/politique-societe/politique/030396977508-il-y-aura-bien-deux-groupes-les-republicains-a-lassemblee-2096008.php
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 - Jus Soli law is still being discussed, and it's the current political hot potato; Lega Nord doesn't want it (of course), Five Star Movement wants it but has called the current iteration "an unvotable mess". Well, Grillo did. To gain political points, of course. Populism!  - Another sticking point is earthquake reconstruction: nearly ten months after the first quake in central Italy (late August 2016), almost all of the debris is still where it fell, and reconstruction hasn't started yet. Now the central government and the local governments are playing the blame game. - Rome mayor Virginia Raggi is about to be indicted for abuse of office and false declarations. She's from the FSM, who have made honesty the top point of their campaign  Polls! Getting wrecked at local elections cost the Five Star Movement a lot, but they're still the top party: Five Star Movement: 28,4%, down from 29,8% (-1,6%) Democratic Party: 26,8%, down from 27,4% (-0,6%) Forza Italia (Dear Silvio): 14,1%, up from 13,1% (+1,0%) Lega Nord (anti-EU, anti-immigration): 13,8%, up from 13,4% (+0,4) Fratelli D'Italia - AN (thinly disguised fascists): 4,8%, up from 4,7% (+0,1%) Articolo 1 - MDP (socialdemocrats, former-DPs): 3,6%, up from 3,2% (+0,4%) Alternativa Popolare (Alfano, former Forza Italia): 2,6%, no change Sinistra Italiana (former DPs plus former FSMs): 2,2%, no change Others: 3,7%, up from 3,6% (+0,1%) Notably, should the right wing parties (Forza Italia, Lega Nord, Fratelli D'Italia) decide to run together, at 32,7% they would absolutely obliterate both the FSM and the DP. Too bad Dear Silvio and Salvini can't agree on anything. And I just jinxed the next elections didn't I.
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Mikl posted:- Rome mayor Virginia Raggi is about to be indicted for abuse of office and false declarations. She's from the FSM, who have made honesty the top point of their campaign Toplowtech fucked around with this message at 11:03 on Jun 21, 2017 |
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Jun 21, 2017 10:57
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Mikl posted:Notably, should the right wing parties (Forza Italia, Lega Nord, Fratelli D'Italia) decide to run together, at 32,7% they would absolutely obliterate both the FSM and the DP. Too bad Dear Silvio and Salvini can't agree on anything. And I just jinxed the next elections didn't I. Interesting as always, thanks. But how in the everloving gently caress is anyone at all still prepared to vote for Berlusconi et al??
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Pluskut Tukker posted:Interesting as always, thanks. But how in the everloving gently caress is anyone at all still prepared to vote for Berlusconi et al?? How is anyone prepared to vote for Sarkozy or Fillon? How is anyone prepared to vote for Trump? Etc.
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Berlusconi's track record is a little longer than any of those people.
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GaussianCopula posted:It seems like soldiers on the streets do actually provide some protection against (incompetent) terrorists
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Pluskut Tukker posted:Berlusconi's track record is a little longer than any of those people.
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They prevented a possible days-long manhunt and terror alert and 48 hour media scandal and reduced it to a news ticker. It's taking the "terror" out of terrorism. How is this hard to grasp.
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Deltasquid posted:They prevented a possible days-long manhunt and terror alert and 48 hour media scandal and reduced it to a news ticker. It's taking the "terror" out of terrorism. How is this hard to grasp.
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R. Mute posted:A cop could've done the same thing. I don't think anyone ever advocated for soldiers replacing police. The point is to get more people with guns on the street in a very short time. Double people with guns on the street = double chance to shoot an Allah snack bar in progress
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Lol Bayrou
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Raspberry Jam It In Me posted:I don't think anyone ever advocated for soldiers replacing police. The point is to get more people with guns on the street in a very short time.
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R. Mute posted:We don't have a shortage of cops here in Belgium, certainly not when it comes to hotspots like the train stations. Putting soldiers on the streets is purely a PR move. In that case, disregard my comment
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its done, the republicans (right wing) are officially divided in the assembly, many mps have left the republicans group to create a center right group called "republicains constructifs-udi". the original republican group will oppose the macron government while this new republican group will only oppose him when necessary and will work with the government
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Can someone in tune with French politics explain the whole MoDem resignation thing to me?
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R. Mute posted:We don't have a shortage of cops here in Belgium This is false, we keep gutting our police force to the point that off-duty police officers were asked to do extra work on the weekends when guarding the French border back when we reintroduced border checks with the Bataclan. They're even talking about reducing the police's work to "the core of police work" and leaving silly things like guarding banks and regulating traffic at intersections to private security like G4S. EDIT: if your argument is "we need to invest more in police so we don't need the military to do police work" then we're in agreement, but that's factually not the case and I'd rather have soldiers be deployed than nobody at all.
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remember the story of the boy who cries wolf? the wolf was there the entire time.
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Junior G-man posted:Can someone in tune with French politics explain the whole MoDem resignation thing to me?
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Pluskut Tukker posted:Interesting as always, thanks. But how in the everloving gently caress is anyone at all still prepared to vote for Berlusconi et al?? In Italy until the nineties politics was basically right-wingers screaming "COMMIES!!!  " at left-wingers, and left-wingers screaming "FASCISTS!!! " back. Things have changed since then, but Silvio managed to set himself up as The Only One Standing Between You And Stalinism in that time period. His core voting base is made up of nostalgic people aged 40+ who buy completely into his narrative.
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Mikl posted:His core voting base is made up of nostalgic people aged 40+ who buy completely into his narrative. And self-employed people and shop owners who always evade the VAT. Silvio's electoral campaigns revolved around telling these kind of people in every possible way that evading taxes is cool and good.
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Deltasquid posted:This is false, we keep gutting our police force to the point that off-duty police officers were asked to do extra work on the weekends when guarding the French border back when we reintroduced border checks with the Bataclan. They're even talking about reducing the police's work to "the core of police work" and leaving silly things like guarding banks and regulating traffic at intersections to private security like G4S. And yeah, like you said, the privatisation of the police force is straight garbage. But we're not at the point yet where we're running that low on cops that we can't up the security at major hot spots without relying on soldiers. The issue is that while they can do it, thanks to budget cuts, it means taking that manpower from elsewhere. I guess you've got a point in saying rather soldiers than nobody, but ultimately it's just papering over the cracks. And not only are those cracks going to get bigger, it's also the principle of it - soldiers don't belong on our streets. It sends the wrong message on so many fronts, aside from being plain wrong on principle.
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I Love Annie May posted:And self-employed people and shop owners who always evade the VAT. Silvio's electoral campaigns revolved around telling these kind of people in every possible way that evading taxes is cool and good. True. My previous post was probably guilty of oversimplification. Thanks for adding to it 
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In German news, it seems even the government is coming around to the idea that all those uneducated immigrants might not be quite the economic miracle that was claimed:quote:Up to three quarters of Germany’s refugees will still be unemployed in five years’ time, according to a government minister, in a stark admission of the challenges the country faces in integrating its huge migrant population. https://www.ft.com/content/022de0a4-54f4-11e7-9fed-c19e2700005f?mhq5j=e1 (if you're paywalled out just google the headline and click into the article via the Google search results) I wonder how all those "refugees welcome!!" people will feel when their taxes are increased to support these 1million ish unemployed people for the next 5 years. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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We seem to be having this discussion every few pages itt, but the economic pretext for accepting refugees was always rubbish. The purpose of integrating these populations was always primarily a moral / humanitarian one, and hopefully people who supported it can see that.
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Does the top party in Italy still get bonus seats? An M5S government seems like it would be a shitshow.
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https://euobserver.com/institutional/138297quote:While the UK has traditionally been an ally to countries such as the Netherlands and Denmark, these numbers show that it cannot be easily replaced. More Brexit news. The smaller EU countries are trying to see how voting alliances will shift afterwards. I hope this does mean the EU can shift towards more social issues now one of the big neolibs drivers is out.
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Someone posted this in UKMT. Could the Queen stop Brexit?! https://twitter.com/DailyMailUK/status/877484817109192705
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Lord of the Llamas posted:Someone posted this in UKMT. Could the Queen stop Brexit?!
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Wow, this Melenchon really demonstrates why he's the left's posterboy: An ugly old man with ugly old men's attitude, bullying those more intelligent than him and showing off small-minded nationalism. The old reactionary left's answer to Trump. Everybody who voted for him should feel ashamed. Link of infamy http://www.lepoint.fr/politique/melenchon-ne-supporte-pas-de-voir-le-drapeau-europeen-a-l-assemblee-21-06-2017-2137037_20.php
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Einbauschrank posted:Wow, this Melenchon really demonstrates why he's the left's posterboy:
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R. Mute posted:I don't read this thread often, is this post satire? einbauschrank thinks refugees being allowed to go anywhere but the state next door is an abuse, rather than intended outcome, of the human rights convention Einbauschrank posted:An ugly old man with ugly old men's attitude, bullying those more intelligent than him and showing off small-minded nationalism.
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