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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

always thank the rock hider

big scary monsters posted:

Cool, glad it works for you and you've been able to adjust to it permanently rather than as a crash diet. I wasn't trying to attack you specifically, just I've seen plenty of friends try dieting to lose weight and fail long term, and a couple take up sports and succeed. I counted calories for a time to drop weight to climb a long term bouldering project and it worked great, but it came back once I stopped. A few years later, moving 12km from work and cycling every day was a much more fun way of incidentally achieving the same result.

I didn't see it as an attack, and "crash dieting is bad" is an important point that a lot of people need to hear. Good on you for trying to help folks out.

Finding exercise that you enjoy is very important to keep the motivation up. I have a friend with mental health issues who has trouble spending time outside and therefore has never really done much exercise. They recently got an exercise bike and found they can like/tolerate using it in front of the TV. An important step IMO :)

Me, I like cycling and walking along canals and rivers, and I find my bodyweight training fun. Weights bore the poo poo out of me :D


Oh, new page. 585AD King Childebert II takes up sole rule of Austrasia. Austrasia was formerly part of the Frankish Empire, whose breakup mirrors the collapse of the EU that Strong Britane's leaving is about to cause. But before that happens the Pope will crown Jean-Claude Juncker Emperor.

Braggart fucked around with this message at 12:05 on Jun 21, 2017

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Party Boat
Nov 1, 2007

where did that other dog come from

who is he


Is that protest in London actually happening? I've seen nothing about it other than right wingers hyperventilating over John McDonnell whipping up a violent mob.

a neurotic ai
Mar 22, 2012

Cerv posted:

people who wear fancy dress to festivals are the worst. I hope they all get the shits and fall into a long drop

Well don't look at me.. I look like a generic festival fratbro (unavoidable really, t-shirt + shorts and going to the gym even slightly will do that).

ultrabindu
Jan 28, 2009
https://twitter.com/estwebber/status/877475495876677632

The Beast is always ready.

Seaside Loafer
Feb 7, 2012

Waiting for a train, I needed a shit. You won't bee-lieve what happened next

:lol:

Zephro
Nov 23, 2000

I suppose I could part with one and still be feared...

Braggart posted:

my palate has completely changed.
This is one interesting consequence of changing your diet. I've been making a big effort to cut down on salt (that poo poo is everywhere) and one side-effect is that supermarket bread is really unpleasantly salty for me now that I've got used to not eating so much. Crumpets (peace be upon them) are even worse, and they're the thing I miss most. But it's kinda amazing how much salt is jammed into everything and how you just don't notice it unless you make an active effort to cut back.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Isn't the new take on salt that too much sodium isn't bad for you up until like LDLo levels unless you already have high blood pressure?

(If you already have high blood pressure then sodium still bad.)

UrbicaMortis
Feb 16, 2012

Hmm, how shall I post today?


Remember when the Tories thought they were going to win his seat?

Zephro
Nov 23, 2000

I suppose I could part with one and still be feared...

Guavanaut posted:

Isn't the new take on salt that too much sodium isn't bad for you up until like LDLo levels unless you already have high blood pressure?

(If you already have high blood pressure then sodium still bad.)
The Cochrane Review on it is basically inconclusive:

http://www.cochrane.org/CD009217/VASC_reduced-dietary-salt-for-the-prevention-of-cardiovascular-disease

There's a plausible biological mechanism for it, and humans have plenty of ways to hang on to their salt and so don't really need to eat all that much anyway, plus the easiest way to cut back on salt is to cut back on processed foods, which is generally a good idea in any case, so my thinking is better safe than sorry. If it's unnecessary then oh well, no harm done, and on the other hand it might be actively useful. Plus it's nice to branch out and experiment with using other stuff for flavouring.

El Pollo Blanco
Jun 12, 2013

by sebmojo
Did dennis skinner remain in the commons during the queen's speech?

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Noxville posted:

Well I guess it's nice to know that at least with the majority of the Labour right they do in fact care mostly about winning

I do genuinely think there's a chunk of the Right that is at heart genuinely lefty, quite likes socialism, but has absorbed the Blairite view that the only way you get into power and get to do anything even remotely good is by tacking to the right and winning over Tories, and therefore has as a result hated Corbyn purely because they thought he'd wipe out the Labour Party. Now that that has Not Happened and there is a clear constituency for proper socialism, hope has perhaps thawed their frosted hearts a little and they're genuinely willing to get on side. I mean, there's a reason they joined up with our party and not the oppo when they were young and idealistic.

On the other hand hope may still be a lie, and obviously some of them including Blair himself are still straight up ideologically rightwing bastards.

Edit: wow I genuinely said genuinely a lot :shobon:

feedmegin fucked around with this message at 12:23 on Jun 21, 2017

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

always thank the rock hider

Zephro posted:

This is one interesting consequence of changing your diet. I've been making a big effort to cut down on salt (that poo poo is everywhere) and one side-effect is that supermarket bread is really unpleasantly salty for me now that I've got used to not eating so much. Crumpets (peace be upon them) are even worse, and they're the thing I miss most. But it's kinda amazing how much salt is jammed into everything and how you just don't notice it unless you make an active effort to cut back.

Palate change certainly makes it easier to stick to the diet. If you stick it out then to a certain extent you stop craving poo poo food, which is dead handy. I remember loving bread and other carby things, but the thought of actually eating them now is kind of offputting.

I've never found salt to be a problem. I eat a lot of salted peanuts but I'm getting less salt from everything else as it's unprocessed meat and green veg. I sweat a lot and I drink a lot of water (and nothing else) so I piss a lot. It all seems to work out :shrug:

Who is Dennis Skinner heckling and what is the man doing?

Zephro
Nov 23, 2000

I suppose I could part with one and still be feared...

Spuckuk posted:

Now excuse me while I boil this absurdly salty gammon in a big pot with cabbage and horrible floury potatoes for 14 hours until nothing of joy remains.

Christ I hate the food in Ireland growing up.
I realised how you're supposed to do traditional British/Irish food when I was making a lamb stew and accidentally tipped like three times as much rosemary into it as the recipe suggested. It was really nice. So the basic tactic is to boil the poo poo out of the actual food until it's a rubbery, flavour-free mess, then pick your favourite herb or spice and go hog wild. Don't think of it as lamb stew with rosemary, think of it as rosemary stew with heat-treated protein solids and it all makes a lot more sense.

Irony Be My Shield
Jul 29, 2012

Can a deal with the DUP really still happen when they have no say over the queen's speech? Would they just promise them budgetary stuff?

El Pollo Blanco
Jun 12, 2013

by sebmojo

Braggart posted:

Who is Dennis Skinner heckling and what is the man doing?

He's heckling black rod, isn't he?

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010
If you're of an acceptable but not amazing physique, I couldn't recommend strength training more. It allows, nay requires, that you eat a fuckload of food if you want to seriously progress and you'll feel loving awesome the first time you look in a mirror and notice you actually have pecs just like those guys on TV. And the amount of sex you get to have will increase dramatically.

Spuckuk
Aug 11, 2009

Being a bastard works



Zephro posted:

I realised how you're supposed to do traditional British/Irish food when I was making a lamb stew and accidentally tippled like three times as much rosemary into it as the recipe suggested. It was really nice. So the basic tactic is to boil the poo poo out of the actual food until it's a rubbery, flavour-free mess, then pick your favourite herb or spice and go hog wild. Don't think of it as lamb stew with rosemary, think of it as rosemary stew with heat-treated protein solids and it all makes a lot more sense.

Attempting to introduce anything so radicalas a herb or god forgive, garlic, into Irish food will get you run out of Limerick faster than the jews in were in 1884 :smith:

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese
The day I cut down on salt is the day I die of a massive high blood pressure stroke

Come and pry it from my cold dead hands

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

MikeCrotch posted:

The day I cut down on salt is the day I die of a massive high blood pressure stroke

Come and pry it from my cold dead hands

Avatar checks out.

Seaside Loafer
Feb 7, 2012

Waiting for a train, I needed a shit. You won't bee-lieve what happened next

Braggart posted:

Who is Dennis Skinner heckling and what is the man doing?
Its this bit from the opening of parliament and Dennis Skinner is almost and possibly more 'the boy' than JC.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Opening_of_Parliament#Royal_summons_of_the_Commons_to_the_Lords.27_chamber

quote:

Royal summons of the Commons to the Lords' chamber[edit]
Motioned by the Monarch, the Lord Great Chamberlain raises his wand of office to signal to the Gentleman Usher of the Black Rod (known as Black Rod), who is charged with summoning the House of Commons and has been waiting in the Central lobby. Black Rod turns and, under the escort of the Door-keeper of the House of Lords and a police inspector, proceeds to Members Lobby of the House of Commons, and reaches the doors of the Commons.


Leading 17th-century parliamentarian John Hampden is one of the Five Members annually commemorated
In 1642, King Charles I stormed into the House of Commons in an unsuccessful attempt to arrest the Five Members, which included the celebrated English patriot and leading parliamentarian John Hampden.[4][5] Since that time, no British monarch has entered the House of Commons when it is sitting.[6]

On Black Rod's approach, the Doorkeeper of the Commons order that the doors are slammed shut against him, symbolising the rights of parliament and its independence from the monarch.[6] He then strikes with the end of his ceremonial staff (the Black Rod) three times on the closed doors of the Commons Chamber, and is then admitted. (There is a mark on the door of the Commons showing the repeated indentations made by Black Rods over the years.) The Sergeant-at-arms introduces Black Rod. At the bar, Black Rod bows to the speaker before proceeding to the table, bowing again, and announcing the command of the monarch for the attendance of the Commons, in the following words:

Mr [or Madam] Speaker, The Queen commands this honourable House [pauses to bow to both sides of the House] to attend Her Majesty immediately in the House of Peers.

By unofficial tradition, in recent years, this has been greeted with a defiant topical comment by republican-leaning Labour MP Dennis Skinner, upon which, with some mirth, the House rises to make its way to the Lords' Chamber.[6] This customary intervention was not observed by Mr Skinner in 2015, claiming that he had "bigger fish to fry than uttering something", due to a dispute over seating with the Scottish Nationalists.[7]

Zephro
Nov 23, 2000

I suppose I could part with one and still be feared...

Seaside Loafer posted:

Its this bit from the opening of parliament and Dennis Skinner is almost and possibly more 'the boy' than JC.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Opening_of_Parliament#Royal_summons_of_the_Commons_to_the_Lords.27_chamber
The Queen summons Black Rod to her presence, then later, still a bit flushed and with a spring in her step, gets on with the business of opening parliament

i think that's how it works anyway

El Pollo Blanco
Jun 12, 2013

by sebmojo

Seaside Loafer posted:

Its this bit from the opening of parliament and Dennis Skinner is almost and possibly more 'the boy' than JC.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Opening_of_Parliament#Royal_summons_of_the_Commons_to_the_Lords.27_chamber

Is there really any question as to who is more 'the boy' between skinner and corbyn? It's obviously skinner

His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.

El Pollo Blanco posted:

He's heckling black rod, isn't he?

black rod, what? Like an inanimate carbon rod?

double nine
Aug 8, 2013

https://twitter.com/MissEllieMae/status/877480375479664640

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Zephro posted:

The Queen summons Black Rod to her presence, then later, still a bit flushed and with a spring in her step, gets on with the business of opening parliament

i think that's how it works anyway

Is Black Rod that chap from Africa who was going on about being friends with benefits with the queen the other day?

Party Boat
Nov 1, 2007

where did that other dog come from

who is he


Irony Be My Shield posted:

Can a deal with the DUP really still happen when they have no say over the queen's speech? Would they just promise them budgetary stuff?

Basically yes. Apparently they're seeking £1bn for NHS and same again for infrastructure funding

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Jakabite posted:

If you're of an acceptable but not amazing physique, I couldn't recommend strength training more. It allows, nay requires, that you eat a fuckload of food if you want to seriously progress and you'll feel loving awesome the first time you look in a mirror and notice you actually have pecs just like those guys on TV. And the amount of sex you get to have will increase dramatically.

I can second this. It's far and away one of the most positive changes I've ever made in my life. Don't be put off or intimidated. Once you start, you'll never look back.

R. Mute
Jul 27, 2011

Miftan posted:

Is Black Rod that chap from Africa who was going on about being friends with benefits with the queen the other day?
I think that was the joke he was going for, well spotted.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Seaside Loafer posted:

Its this bit from the opening of parliament and Dennis Skinner is almost and possibly more 'the boy' than JC.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Opening_of_Parliament#Royal_summons_of_the_Commons_to_the_Lords.27_chamber

And just to :thejoke:, this year he was referring to the fact that Her Maj is apparently furious with May that she's having to do this in the middle of Royal Ascot because May couldn't sort out the DUP poo poo.

Private Eye reckoned she was already pretty pissed off with May for running to the Palace before she actually had a deal in place with the DUP, and also for neglecting to use the traditional words in the announcement - she said "I have been to the Palace and will now form a Government" rather than "Her Majesty has requested that I form a Government" which seems like the Queen getting petty but it's a pretty important constitutional point that some rando doesn't get to go up to the Queen and say "Yeah I'm the PM now, suck it".

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

His Divine Shadow posted:

black rod, what? Like an inanimate carbon rod?

The Gentleman Usher of the Black Rod.

Which makes him sound like a fluffer on a very posh porno.

Seaside Loafer
Feb 7, 2012

Waiting for a train, I needed a shit. You won't bee-lieve what happened next

goddamnedtwisto posted:

And just to :thejoke:, this year he was referring to the fact that Her Maj is apparently furious with May that she's having to do this in the middle of Royal Ascot because May couldn't sort out the DUP poo poo.
Haha holy gently caress, I didnt get that! What a boy!

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe
Hah! The Queen is really obviously dressed for going to Ascot rather than wearing the robes, crown etc that she normally does for the State Opening. Looks like Denis wasn't actually joking and she really is hoping to get away in time for the first race.

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

always thank the rock hider
Cheers guys. That's an interesting tradition.

Jakabite posted:

If you're of an acceptable but not amazing physique, I couldn't recommend strength training more. It allows, nay requires, that you eat a fuckload of food if you want to seriously progress and you'll feel loving awesome the first time you look in a mirror and notice you actually have pecs just like those guys on TV. And the amount of sex you get to have will increase dramatically.

Fully agree. That's a change I made several years ago and it was a good one. And eating more was explicitly one of my reasons.

#1 in the list of muscles I didn't realise I lacked until I got them: lats

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

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Party Boat posted:

Is that protest in London actually happening? I've seen nothing about it other than right wingers hyperventilating over John McDonnell whipping up a violent mob.

There's three facebook events, two of which are run by SWP shills, and none of them have more than a few hundred attendees. For contrast, the protest outside Downing Street last weekend had a few thousand. It's pretty much just that right-wing journalists have absolutely poo poo themselves at seeing it was called "Day of Rage".

dispatch_async
Nov 28, 2014

Imagine having the time to have played through 20 generations of one family in The Sims 2. Imagine making the original two members of that family Neil Buchanan and Cat Deeley. Imagine complaining to Maxis there was no technological progression. You've successfully imagined my life
Homes at Battersea Power Station: blow for first time buyers as affordable housing target at luxury development quietly slashed

quote:

Hundreds of first-time buyers promised cut-price homes at Battersea Power Station will no longer be able to buy into London’s most-hyped regeneration zone, we can reveal.

Originally, 636 homes were earmarked by the Battersea Power Station Development Company for first time-buyers and renters unable to afford the mega prices asked for the 4,239 luxury homes on the power station site.

Now the development company says the entire project may become financially unviable if it is forced to stick to the 2011 promise to include so many affordable homes. It says it made the undertaking when London’s new-build market was booming and construction costs were lower.

Instead it wants to offer 386 affordable homes — or nine per cent of the total. The remaining 250 affordable homes would only be provided following an “end of scheme review”, a complex financial assessment of the profits the development company will make.

Exactly how much profit the development needs to be deemed “viable” has yet to be decided, but a report by council planning officer Dan Taylor, to be considered by Wandsworth’s planning committee, suggests between 15 and 20 per cent. The proposals are expected to be rubber stamped by the council.

Because the change has not been submitted as a new planning application but as a “deed of variation” to the existing planning consent, there has been no public consultation on the proposal – though “notices were put up around the site”.

Captain Mediocre
Oct 14, 2005

Saving lives and money!

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Hah! The Queen is really obviously dressed for going to Ascot rather than wearing the robes, crown etc that she normally does for the State Opening. Looks like Denis wasn't actually joking and she really is hoping to get away in time for the first race.

No that's because this year is a dress-down with less ceremony, on account of the delay mucking up the schedule so that all the horses or whatever the gently caress couldn't practice the real ceremony properly. Or some similar stupid bullshit.

dispatch_async
Nov 28, 2014

Imagine having the time to have played through 20 generations of one family in The Sims 2. Imagine making the original two members of that family Neil Buchanan and Cat Deeley. Imagine complaining to Maxis there was no technological progression. You've successfully imagined my life
lol, right wing commentators once again lose their poo poo about Corbyn not bowing to the Queen

https://twitter.com/RupertMyers/status/877485296224542720

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
No one who doesn't lift weights has an acceptable physique.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

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Captain Mediocre posted:

No that's because this year is a dress-down with less ceremony, on account of the delay mucking up the schedule so that all the horses or whatever the gently caress couldn't practice the real ceremony properly. Or some similar stupid bullshit.

It's a combination of the two. The dress-down is highly unusual and is probably really on account of the Queen being really old, the weather being really hot, and the Ascot being difficult to attend in full regalia.

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Mugsbaloney
Jul 11, 2012

We prefer your extinction to the loss of our job

Hey guys I found some useful self improvement videos, see how far you can get. https://youtu.be/nllZrOoxpzc

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