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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is: This poll is closed. |
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| Labour |
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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
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Comrade Cheggorsky posted:hahaha holy poo poo, what a display of pisstaking
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The only valid identity politics are those centered around the identity of the proletariat, comrade
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Jun 21, 2017 21:12
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Pochoclo posted:The only valid identity politics are those centered around the identity of the proletariat, comrade 
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Jun 21, 2017 21:13
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It feels like the cash for ash thing should be a bigger deal in the media than it is. The investigation's still ongoing, couldn't this wreck the DUP pretty bad? I mean, it has to be either blatant corruption or incredible gross negligence, there's no way something of that scale could be anything else.
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Jun 21, 2017 21:13
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Ministerial spots in NI are assigned proportionally so when they all quit the spots where due to be reallocated again after a I think it was two weeks unless they renominated a replacement, they just renominated the same people and had them quit again to retrigger the process. It was a way to game the system without collapsing stormont - with the first minister using a mechanism that let them temporarily step aside and appoint a temporary officer holder to put Arlene Foster (then Finance Minister) in place as a "gatekeeper" to make sure those uppity nationalists didn't try to go crazy and spend money
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Jun 21, 2017 21:14
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Rygar201 posted:Did they deserve it?
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Jun 21, 2017 21:14
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waffle posted:It feels like the cash for ash thing should be a bigger deal in the media than it is. The investigation's still ongoing, couldn't this wreck the DUP pretty bad?
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Jun 21, 2017 21:15
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Regarde Aduck posted:Quite a lot of people decided loving dead animals was normal after that came out. Boys will be boys apparently. Sadly, Neither Norman the gray nor dennis thatcher were unavailable for comment.
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Jun 21, 2017 21:15
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serious gaylord posted:You've really missed out, however watching it now the sheer absurdity of some of the scenes will be lost as well, modern politics.
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Jun 21, 2017 21:15
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kustomkarkommando posted:The DUPs success at the polls is because they are inflexible tough talkers who refuse to wind their neck in. Yeah, basically the Tories are hosed if they think they can negotiate/play political games as well as the DUP. Both the main parties from Northern Ireland are masters of that poo poo on a level most of Westminster can only dream of. I consider it a serious possibility the DUP will end up dicking the Tories around so much that some backbenchers will collapse the government out of sheer frustration.
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Jun 21, 2017 21:17
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waffle posted:It feels like the cash for ash thing should be a bigger deal in the media than it is. The investigation's still ongoing, couldn't this wreck the DUP pretty bad? I mean, it has to be either blatant corruption or incredible gross negligence, there's no way something of that scale could be anything else. RHI has pretty much played out - the DUP counter mobilised after sinn feins successes with a "vote for us to save the union" line and blasted it out of the public consciousness by and large. Foster remaining first minister in some capacity seems to be a cert now with the most that will be asked will be a temporary leave of absence using a pre-existing mechanism until the initial findings of the inquiry are published - which will most likely focus on some DUP SPADS who have already been thrown under the bus by the party. If/when the assembly comes back Foster will probably be reelected, then temporarily appoint Simon Hamilton to stand in for her for a bit
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Jun 21, 2017 21:17
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Reminder that DUP Nama """""investigator""""" Emma Little Pengelly says there is no desire to take down UVF flags in a mixed neighbourhood at the moment. Literally this week lol.
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Jun 21, 2017 21:18
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communism bitch posted:I've never seen The Thick of It. I saw maybe the first 5 minutes of it once and it just seemed like witless sweary poo poo being sweary for the sake of it. The opening scene of the first episode, where Tucker is sent to dispose of a gently caress up minister, is still one of my favourites. The slow realisation that he's done for, and the only thing in his control is whose terms he goes out on, is a great scene setter for the show. The two specials and In the Loop are really good as well.
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Jun 21, 2017 21:20
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Reminder than DUP MP for south Belfast Emma Little Pengelly's da was arrested by French police trying to sell missile plans stolen from a British defence contractor to Apartheid south Africa in exchange for arms
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Jun 21, 2017 21:20
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goddamnedtwisto posted:So am I insane or is there a very grim number being missed here? 68 flats "acquired" (how much do you want to bet central government is still paying the "affordable" (hah!) rents on them?) to rehouse the survivors of the 127-dwelling Grenfell Tower, which means either actually a lot of other people are still going to end up being moved to the ends of the earth, or... 61 flats had no survivors. To be honest that sounds about right. That time of night, families are all in bed and asleep.
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Jun 21, 2017 21:21
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Bryter posted:https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/441669/BR_PDF_AD_B2_2013.pdf IIRC this doesn't ban the composite aluminum panels they used, since technically the aluminum is not flammable. Of course in actual fires it melts and goes up in flames, but it technically obeys the UK rules. Germany and the US banned it, but the UK didn't!
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Jun 21, 2017 21:22
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jBrereton posted:She was of roughly ariana grande concertgoer age when the IRA blew up a schoolbus she was in so I doubt it. yeah, that's not a good look. I had to ask though since the impression I had was that basically everyone in the DUP was involved with unionist paramilitaries in one way or another
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Jun 21, 2017 21:27
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Rygar201 posted:yeah, that's not a good look. I had to ask though since the impression I had was that basically everyone in the DUP was involved with unionist paramilitaries in one way or another https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeDcqvFz3l4 Both sides did heinously lovely things. Since the whole thing emerged out of a civil rights movement for catholic rights I'm more likely to side with the oppressed than the oppressors.
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Jun 21, 2017 21:34
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CoolCab posted:oh, i absolutely think they matter, don't get me wrong. but i also think assuming they'll lockstep with may just to keep corbyn out regardless is a very dangerous assumption They don't need to go in lockstep with the government on anything to keep Corbyn out, they just need to vote against no confidence motions.
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Jun 21, 2017 21:35
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Bedshaped posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeDcqvFz3l4 yeah I read a lot of stuff about the Troubles on wikipedia (I know) after reading about how the DUP might prop up the Tories. The takeaway for me was that both sides were bad, but the IRA was less bad.
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Jun 21, 2017 21:40
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kustomkarkommando posted:Ministerial spots in NI are assigned proportionally so when they all quit the spots where due to be reallocated again after a I think it was two weeks unless they renominated a replacement, they just renominated the same people and had them quit again to retrigger the process. it owns that the woman in charge of keeping the money out of the hands of irresponsible profligates almost literally set government money on fire
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Jun 21, 2017 21:41
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Rygar201 posted:yeah I read a lot of stuff about the Troubles on wikipedia (I know) after reading about how the DUP might prop up the Tories.
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Jun 21, 2017 21:46
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Rygar201 posted:yeah, that's not a good look. I had to ask though since the impression I had was that basically everyone in the DUP was involved with unionist paramilitaries in one way or another Foster didn't join the DUP until 2004. She started off as a member of the UUP and defected with a couple of other disgruntled members in protest to what they saw as a weak line from the UUP in regards to IRA decommissioning (which was still slowly progressing at that stage) - The DUP emerged as the largest Unionist party in the 2003 election and they jumped ship. Foster was taken under the wing of Peter Robinson, who was seen as more of a party moderniser and the man responsible for making the DUP palatable to the middle classes and business community. When she was elected leader the fact that she was the first Anglican was considered noteworthy, the party upper circle is dominated by Free Presbyterians and Foster distanced herself from the creationist hardline evangelicism that typifies the old guard
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Jun 21, 2017 21:47
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This Brexit means Brexit programme is pretty good
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Jun 21, 2017 21:48
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Rygar201 posted:yeah I read a lot of stuff about the Troubles on wikipedia (I know) after reading about how the DUP might prop up the Tories. An eye for an eye is the only thing both sides can agree on.
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Jun 21, 2017 21:48
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Rygar201 posted:yeah I read a lot of stuff about the Troubles on wikipedia (I know) after reading about how the DUP might prop up the Tories. When the 'less bad' side still blows up little kids you know you're looking at a messy situation.
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Jun 21, 2017 21:50
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Looke posted:This Brexit means Brexit programme is pretty good It is, but their reliance on Rees-Mogg means I keep wanting to throw something through my TV.
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Jun 21, 2017 21:51
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Crowsbeak posted:All this disgusting food talk makes me think Napoleon should have invaded your island. Our food is great. We took the best bits of European food and removed the excess bullshit. The thing about European food is an intense desire to hide the actual taste of whatever the base is. You're not supposed to taste the beef or chicken. We find this weird. Our detractors call us bland. The only European food worth a drat is Italian who understand that food should be fun, not pomp. Everyone else, including the US who just stole everything and uses a knife and fork to cut steak up into tiny pieces before consumption and no one should ever accept their wisdom or advice on food ever, you can all piss off.
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Jun 21, 2017 22:00
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communism bitch posted:I've never seen The Thick of It. I saw maybe the first 5 minutes of it once and it just seemed like witless sweary poo poo being sweary for the sake of it. If you've bounced off it before, I'd recommend trying the specials - they don't really need the context of the first two series to be watchable, and the longer form storytelling allows them to do a richer narrative. They're also where like 90% of the lines people quote come from. Series four is consistently stellar too, but you kind of do need the specials to introduce the characters (Half the main characters in series 3/4 are introduced in the specials, which is part of what makes them watchable without the context of the first two series).
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Jun 21, 2017 22:03
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Regarde Aduck posted:Our food is great. We took the best bits of European food and removed the excess bullshit. The thing about European food is an intense desire to hide the actual taste of whatever the base is. You're not supposed to taste the beef or chicken. We find this weird. Our detractors call us bland. The only European food worth a drat is Italian who understand that food should be fun, not pomp. Everyone else, including the US who just stole everything and uses a knife and fork to cut steak up into tiny pieces before consumption and no one should ever accept their wisdom or advice on food ever, you can all piss off. But but but barbecue!!
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Jun 21, 2017 22:03
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One thing we also need to remember is that in three weeks time it's The Twelfth and won't that be interesting with the current climate... V oh poo poo Rumda fucked around with this message at 22:10 on Jun 21, 2017 |
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Jun 21, 2017 22:06
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Rumda posted:One thing we also need to remember is that in three weeks time it's The Twelfth and won't that be interesting with the current climate... Also possibly Celtic vs Linfield at Windsor Park in Belfast on the 11th night. Great idea that 
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Jun 21, 2017 22:09
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Party Boat posted:The opening scene of the first episode, where Tucker is sent to dispose of a gently caress up minister, is still one of my favourites. The slow realisation that he's done for, and the only thing in his control is whose terms he goes out on, is a great scene setter for the show. Rise of the nutters + Spinners and losers, both made the licence fee justifiable forever (the bastards)
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Jun 21, 2017 22:12
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Marxist-Jezzinist posted:But but but barbecue!! Stolen from black people comrade.
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Jun 21, 2017 22:14
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Malcolm XML posted:IIRC this doesn't ban the composite aluminum panels they used, since technically the aluminum is not flammable. You don't need to ban the panels - the regs say that whatever the walls are made of should be suitable (e.g. not spread a fire around an entire building in 15 minutes). I can't see how it's not a violation of the regs.
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Jun 21, 2017 22:19
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You can still do what Germany and the US did, the panels aren't banned, but they're banned on buildings taller than 20m or whatever and you have to have firebreaks.
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Jun 21, 2017 22:21
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Under FTPA couldn't the DUP technically vote down every piece of legislation the government proposes while propping it up in the confidence motions that follow? Don't need the FTPA for that - losing a vote on any non-supply bill doesn't result in a vote of confidence. But yes, that's one of the many fun tactics they can pull to get their way.
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Jun 21, 2017 22:23
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communism bitch posted:I've never seen The Thick of It. I saw maybe the first 5 minutes of it once and it just seemed like witless sweary poo poo being sweary for the sake of it. Indeed, it's much more realistic than Yes, Minister.
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Jun 21, 2017 22:30
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Don't need the FTPA for that - losing a vote on any non-supply bill doesn't result in a vote of confidence. But yes, that's one of the many fun tactics they can pull to get their way. FTPA means that losing a vote on a supply bill is no longer treated as a vote of no confidence.
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Malcolm XML posted:IIRC this doesn't ban the composite aluminum panels they used, since technically the aluminum is not flammable. Aluminium is considered non-flammable, legally, because it's really loving hard to actually make it burn. In that application it would have melted and fallen away from the heat long before it reached it's ignition temperature. It's the insulation between the panels that's the problem, and the evidence seems to be they used panels with flammable (or at least non-fire-retardant) insulation in them, and relied on the aluminium to protect the insulation. I'll leave the problems with that line of thinking - when the panels are installed in their millions, by the lowest bidder - to your imagination.
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