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chutche2 posted:So a kinda hilarious thing me and my friends came up with I want to see that
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Speaking of Guard, 8th has made me finally get around to painting the Hydra I've had for who knows how long. gently caress your [FLY]ers
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# ? Jun 22, 2017 03:55 |
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Yeast posted:Speaking of Guard, 8th has made me finally get around to painting the Hydra I've had for who knows how long. Looks great. I especially love the red glowing thing.
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# ? Jun 22, 2017 04:01 |
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What is the goonsensus on 8th? Pick up the game again, or burn your minis?
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# ? Jun 22, 2017 04:07 |
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Pendent posted:Looks great. I especially love the red glowing thing. It looks like legit glass. It's incredible.
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# ? Jun 22, 2017 04:07 |
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chutche2 posted:So a kinda hilarious thing me and my friends came up with And if you play them right they will be immune to shooting attacks 😂
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# ? Jun 22, 2017 04:08 |
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8th is insanely good compared to 7th. I don't play other war games so I couldn't tell you if it's actually good or not.
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# ? Jun 22, 2017 04:09 |
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The Kingfish posted:And if you play them right they will be immune to shooting attacks 😂 Putting them in a taurox and keeping it slightly ahead of them when they disembark is a good way to do that. Could also replace one of the platoon commanders with a command squad.
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# ? Jun 22, 2017 04:09 |
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Sexual Aluminum posted:What is the goonsensus on 8th? Pick up the game again, or burn your minis? It seems pretty drat good so far. GW have plenty of chances to gently caress stuff up moving forward but for now things are looking up.
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# ? Jun 22, 2017 04:10 |
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chutche2 posted:So speaking of nurgle stuff. They're loving amazing models, and now I think i'll be using mine as counts-as Chaos Spawn for a nurgle army.
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# ? Jun 22, 2017 04:10 |
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Texmo posted:They're loving amazing models, and now I think i'll be using mine as counts-as Chaos Spawn for a nurgle army. They'd probably do better as Possessed than Chaos Spawn But then I hear posessed are garbage.
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# ? Jun 22, 2017 04:12 |
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Safety Factor posted:I have a bunch of heavy bolter devastators and I don't have a single grav weapon in my army. I never bought any because my marines are mostly from 3rd/4th edition. Nah, man it's not like that--I'm totally OK with people playing to win and going full bore at 40k. I like to do that sometimes too. It's not about calling people "filthy WAAC-ers," which I agree is lame poo poo. It's just more about the vibe of the game you are playing is what I'm saying, and if you are worried about loopholes and abuse, then it's just not for you. I don't think it's a tautology, either--it's more that you have to just be OK with the idea that somewhere, there's a more granular points system that may say one player has a slight advantage over the other Let me put it this way: When I play against BuffaloChicken or srm, we'll probably use power. It's quicker and easier and I'll throw something together based on WSIWYG with my models and I don't care if I'm down by a hundred points or so going into the game. We'll also probably play an asymmetric scenario. When I play against my buddy Dan, those games are more competitive and we'll play with points cause that's the type of game we'll play. In those games, I care a lot more about having balanced forces down to the granular points. It's not that I think PLs are the be-all end-all, just that they're very good for a type of game/mood and not just to be "intro versions of points." I think they do a decent job describing the general strength of stuff and are good for building lists for WSIWYG armies that have "subpar" loadouts. Sexual Aluminum posted:What is the goonsensus on 8th? Pick up the game again, or burn your minis? 8th is pretty good and it's a great time to get back into the game. TheChirurgeon fucked around with this message at 04:24 on Jun 22, 2017 |
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Sexual Aluminum posted:What is the goonsensus on 8th? Pick up the game again, or burn your minis? It feels like a good step because ,yeah , 7th was bloated as gently caress. Big fan of the vehicle simplification. On the other hand I dont like how they are handling points vs power level. Also few other nit-picky things but over all it does seem like they are trying to improve game play. I can't stand the story line behind primaris marines but I love the models.
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# ? Jun 22, 2017 04:23 |
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goose willis posted:I haven't looked at Games Workshop prices in a while because I mostly get my material off eBay sales but uh I feel like you could just get them for free buying Burning of Prospero sets, breaking them up, and selling the 30 mk3s, Tartaros terminators, and Custodes on ebay. Or to Goons, I could use some Custodes.
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# ? Jun 22, 2017 04:53 |
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Thanks to this post, I just ordered 60 Howling Griffons shoulder symbols, and decided to go for painting my Primaris just like Zuul.Zuul the Cat posted:I didn't think of that. Excellent idea! I also went crazy for the heavy jump troops, and now own 12 of them.
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# ? Jun 22, 2017 05:51 |
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TwingeCrag posted:Stormboyz are literally manned anti-aircraft rockets now. This timeline is getting better They can assault planes. That is the orkiest thing ever to ork. TheChirurgeon posted:Look if you're worried about getting the most out of units when you do a PL game, then they're not for you. And that is totally fine I'm liking the concept for my orky vehicles because it means I can model them however I think it looks cool and not have to hack them up if I want to try another loadout for something that isn't easily magnetized. Liquid Communism fucked around with this message at 06:24 on Jun 22, 2017 |
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Kabuki Shipoopi posted:Cross-posting my pink Ham-bois. These look really good dude. I love the colour scheme choice and I think on the tabletop they will look fantastic. I always feel we often get hung up on what the models look like at painting distance but actually what matters is what they look like on the tabletop.
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# ? Jun 22, 2017 06:31 |
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Just want to check, I assume the interpretation of the tyranid/ork/whatever rules that say things like "If this unit contains 20 or more models" then it doesn't apply if you have some in the unit die in the game itself, taking it below the number?
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# ? Jun 22, 2017 06:45 |
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General Olloth posted:Just want to check, I assume the interpretation of the tyranid/ork/whatever rules that say things like "If this unit contains 20 or more models" then it doesn't apply if you have some in the unit die in the game itself, taking it below the number? Yes. The moment it falls below the threshold the bonus no longer applies. Upon comparison, it looks like the Triumvirate models are all primaris sized (cypher, etc).
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# ? Jun 22, 2017 06:47 |
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GreenMarine posted:Yes. The moment it falls below the threshold the bonus no longer applies. Yeah I thought so. I ordered the Tyranid Swarm box and it has 40 termagants and 40 hormagaunts. I should run blobs of 30/10 and not 20/20 if losing a single model drops the bonus right?
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# ? Jun 22, 2017 06:55 |
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General Olloth posted:Yeah I thought so. Yeah. One model drops and you'll be down the bonus, so if you want to leverage it you need some buffer.
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# ? Jun 22, 2017 06:57 |
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Keep in mind this isn't always true. Plaguebearers get their bonus if you had 20 models at the beginning of the phase. Make sure to read your rules.
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# ? Jun 22, 2017 07:02 |
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chutche2 posted:Keep in mind this isn't always true. Yeah it doesn't say beginning here in the tyranids rules. It's a really short sentence that I guess you could argue the other way because it's a little vague but I assume the intent is that it's gone once you're below.
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General Olloth posted:Yeah it doesn't say beginning here in the tyranids rules. It's a really short sentence that I guess you could argue the other way because it's a little vague but I assume the intent is that it's gone once you're below. In the case of tyranids, yes. I'm saying always read your rules because they don't all work like this.
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# ? Jun 22, 2017 07:08 |
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The Kingfish posted:8th is insanely good compared to 7th. I don't play other war games so I couldn't tell you if it's actually good or not. I play way to many wargames, not played 40K since 3rd edition and 8th is actually good. Also PL are good too.
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# ? Jun 22, 2017 07:53 |
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Someone in this thread commented that the Fire Raptor gunship is amazing. I just read an article saying the Stormraven fills that role better. If I only had budget for 1, which would you guys recommend? (And with which weapon choices?)
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# ? Jun 22, 2017 13:56 |
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I don't know what the new 40k fire raptor rules are but the old rules and 30k rules for it are loving crazy.
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# ? Jun 22, 2017 14:11 |
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dexefiend posted:Someone in this thread commented that the Fire Raptor gunship is amazing. I just read an article saying the Stormraven fills that role better. Fire Raptor is amazing. Building one is like looking into the abyss of all your lifes bad choices though.
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# ? Jun 22, 2017 14:14 |
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chutche2 posted:In the case of tyranids, yes. I don't understand how the tactical difference is enough to warrant two separate rules. Or worse, the dozen different rules that all say "set up in reserve and deploy >9" away at the end of any movement phase". The lack of USRs are baffling.
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# ? Jun 22, 2017 14:15 |
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dexefiend posted:Someone in this thread commented that the Fire Raptor gunship is amazing. I just read an article saying the Stormraven fills that role better. Personally I'd buy a Valkyrie and just counts-as it as either, because the Fire Raptor and the Stormraven look like flying dumpsters. That's just me though...
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# ? Jun 22, 2017 14:18 |
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My new favourite models are the
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# ? Jun 22, 2017 14:19 |
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BIG MEATY SHITS posted:I don't understand how the tactical difference is enough to warrant two separate rules. Or worse, the dozen different rules that all say "set up in reserve and deploy >9" away at the end of any movement phase". They got the message "too many redundant USRs we have to waste time looking up when they finally come into play" and decided that meant everyone wanted to go back to 3rd edition where there were ten flavours of the same rule written marginally differently.
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# ? Jun 22, 2017 14:26 |
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The Kingfish posted:Can Pask give orders to himself? I was going to make some argument that was like "but I read tank orders can't go to characters" but looks like Pask has an exception. Neat. Played last night. Back to the DA razorspam with cherub/lascannon devs, 2 stormtalons, and a chimera full of primais psykers against 60 cron warriors, two c'tan shards, 10 wraiths and 3 heavy destroyers. I boarded him on the top of three. Let me tell you, smite spam is a thing and having 10 characters running around with force staves is terrifying. I also picked up a Bobby G last night. Razorspam with reroll to wound sounds pretty rough.
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# ? Jun 22, 2017 14:27 |
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Geoff Zahn posted:I wish I was insane enough to make a 1000 pt Guard army that is just 300 conscripts, 3 company commanders, and 6 scout sentinels with autocannons. Don't forget the Commissars!
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# ? Jun 22, 2017 14:29 |
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Sexual Aluminum posted:What is the goonsensus on 8th? Pick up the game again, or burn your minis? I was skeptical, but it's been playing great so far. Simple, intuitive and fast. Big improvement over 6th/7th, IMO.
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# ? Jun 22, 2017 14:29 |
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Indolent Bastard posted:Personally I'd buy a Valkyrie and just counts-as it as either, because the Fire Raptor and the Stormraven look like flying dumpsters. That's just me though... The fire raptor looks like the 40k equivalent of a Havoc gunship and is baller as gently caress. The 40k flyers on the other hand look weird. The fire raptor is a big model.
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# ? Jun 22, 2017 14:38 |
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Naramyth posted:I was going to make some argument that was like "but I read tank orders can't go to characters" but looks like Pask has an exception. Neat. I was like "why, are psykers any good now?" and then I realised you actually did mean Primaris and lol smite spam is too funny of an idea.
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# ? Jun 22, 2017 14:50 |
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I haven't had the chance to play yet, but every battle report I've watched just wind up with a huge pile of melee by turn 2 no matter what kind of armies are used. Is this a problem people have run into? Is melee the winner over shooting this round?
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# ? Jun 22, 2017 14:56 |
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Beerdeer posted:I haven't had the chance to play yet, but every battle report I've watched just wind up with a huge pile of melee by turn 2 no matter what kind of armies are used. Is this a problem people have run into? Is melee the winner over shooting this round? People aren't used to the new rules. You want to actually deploy farther away from the center, fall back and kite regularly, and have a plan for getting to objectives later if you are a shooting army now. It doesn't HAVE to be a big melee ball. If you play two assault armies then I guess that is likely if you don't have objectives spread out.
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Corrode posted:I was like "why, are psykers any good now?" and then I realised you actually did mean Primaris and lol smite spam is too funny of an idea. Yeah it was something else. I killed 15 warriors and the deceiver turn one. Turn two they melted most of the wraiths. Just forcing an ocean of mortal wounds is pretty good. ETC is considering banning the HQ detachment because of garbage like this and Tau missile commanders.
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