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FizFashizzle posted:single payer plans cannot work in states because the inherent volatility of health care prices, plus their general trend upwards, makes them very difficult for states with fixed budgets. This is why it failed in vermont. ColoradoCare dealt with all of those problems. Obviously it didn't pass because people balk at such large tax increases, but it was a good model of how state-level single payer should work in theory. The real problem with state-level single payer is that it's incredibly expensive and states can't declare bankruptcy. This is actually a pretty big problem when you're taking on a lot of formerly uninsured people who were essentially ghosts before you gave them coverage, and now they're all going to come out and use it and it's difficult to estimate the costs. You gently caress up with the estimation of how much funding it requires and have a cost overrun? Congrats, you can't pay providers because there's no money left in the fund. The federal government doesn't have this problem since we can run on a deficit while the system normalizes. 
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Mustached Demon posted:Check them for security reasons and then ban them? Yeah, I figured that. I guess what I'm asking is: why should the press feel any obligation to accede to these dumb, arbitrary demands? I know that an organized rebellion will increase the whining about "the media" and give them more ammunition for canceling press briefings altogether, but when has the White House ever showed any respect for decorum? It just seems like respect only ever goes one way for this administration: the press bowing its knee and giving in to silly demands for the chance to ask Sarah Huckabee Sanders questions she won't answer. I mean...you're the press secretary for the POTUS. If you can't handle someone putting you on tape, why the hell do you even have your job?
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The Phlegmatist posted:ColoradoCare dealt with all of those problems. Obviously it didn't pass because people balk at such large tax increases, but it was a good model of how state-level single payer should work in theory. You can't post that picture without posting the accompanying story of how someone thought a Furry convention was something for service animals and brought a service dog to it
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Jun 22, 2017 04:22
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Has this already been posted? https://twitter.com/clevstondems/status/877707204295512065 No puppet etc
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Jun 22, 2017 04:23
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:I'm wondering how they expect to enforce that. What's to stop a reporter from hiding a microcassette recorder in their pocket and sneaking it into the briefing? And what would they do if they did find recoding equipment; send someone to bed without supper? They are well aware that the hierarchy of "getting caught saying terrible things" goes: Caught on video Caught on audio recording (Ten thousand lines removed) Printed quote only, probably made up by the lying fake media, where's the tape? It never happened If somebody does wear a wire anyway, the audio quality will be terrible, and revealing the recording will mean an instant excuse to ban the outlet for "security reasons."
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:Yeah, I figured that. I guess what I'm asking is: why should the press feel any obligation to accede to these dumb, arbitrary demands the only thing giving reporters access to the press secretary or white house staff, afaik, is historical norm
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Jun 22, 2017 04:25
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Jealous Cow posted:Has this already been posted? loving why. What is the goddamn point of doing this.
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Jun 22, 2017 04:26
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Hollismason posted:You can't post that picture without posting the accompanying story of how someone thought a Furry convention was something for service animals and brought a service dog to it It was probably someone who needs an service animal 
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TARDISman posted:loving why. What is the goddamn point of doing this. It's particularly insane as it passed the senate almost unanimously.
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Hollismason posted:You can't post that picture without posting the accompanying story of how someone thought a Furry convention was something for service animals and brought a service dog to it How are the teeth?
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Reik posted:How are the teeth? In the 13 years? (it was at least 10 I know) since I posted that I have had them fixed. Thank you for your concern.
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Hollismason posted:In the 13 years? since I posted that I have had them fixed. Thank you for your concern. Glad to hear.
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Don Lemon just showed the dashcam video of Castille and then the girlfriend's video after. I never saw the second one. Holy poo poo. E: also some shithead is defending it "t.h.c. meaning he had so much t.h.c. intoxicating his body that he might have misinterpreted the instruction" These fuckheads and the people who defend it have no concept of accountability or responsibility. Even if he did panic that piece of poo poo still deserves the consequences of his actions. Boon fucked around with this message at 04:46 on Jun 22, 2017 |
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awesmoe posted:What do you suggest they do? (given that the wh controls the briefing room, and press credentials etc) I dunno. I just wish they weren't quite so deferential to these dumb rules. I'm sick and tired of the good guys bowing and scraping to the bad guys, only to have to eat poo poo in return.
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:I dunno. I just wish they weren't quite so deferential to these dumb rules. I'm sick and tired of the good guys bowing and scraping to the bad guys, only to have to eat poo poo in return. when you say bowing and scraping you mean "complaining on social media and on the platforms they're paid to communicate through (while going along with the restrictions because if they didn't they would be unable to do their important jobs)", right? e: you're mad at the white house and that's thoroughly reasonable but it's dumb to blame the media for rules they have no real option but to follow. their only "meaningful" way to protest would be to cut off coverage which is exactly what the white house wants
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Jealous Cow posted:It's particularly insane as it passed the senate almost unanimously. The Freedom Caucus is both paid by dark money and detests anything that has the hint of Liberal on it.
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Jealous Cow posted:Has this already been posted? This was the sanctions bill that was so important to work with Republicans to pass that the Democrats decided not to blockade the Senate over the secretive AHCA drafting process that violated every legislative norm, right? 
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VitalSigns posted:This was the sanctions bill that was so important to work with Republicans to pass that the Democrats decided not to blockade the Senate over the secretive AHCA drafting process that violated every legislative norm, right? Except, Democrats were able to first pass that sanctions bill and now are blockading the senate. http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/338591-dems-to-grind-senate-to-a-halt-over-obamcare-repeal-fight quote:Senate Democrats are slowing the Senate to a crawl as they escalate their fight over the GOP push to repeal and replace ObamaCare.
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Oh nice, the Dems finally pulled the football away from Republicans for a change.
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Probably because the House signaled they were going to block the sanctions bill.
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https://twitter.com/johnjcook/status/877731582211088384 https://twitter.com/JustinWolfers/status/877742750418038784 No need to pass any laws restricting press freedom, a White House had a way of shutting that whole thing down. Jealous Cow fucked around with this message at 05:39 on Jun 22, 2017 |
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Naw, it's cool, every single member of the press corps happened to leave their cameras (and recorders and cell phones) in their cars. Oops.
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loving record it in protest. Don't cave to their lovely demands
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Those horrible Democrats, making such outlandish demands, like "we should be allowed to know what this thing says that we're voting on that will significantly impact tens of millions of Americans." They're such scumbags. - Literally every conservative news outlet tomorrow, without the slightest hint of irony.
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They should report on the fact that it's not reportable. It would be Helleresque. " We take you live right now to the White House and us not reporting on the not reportable"
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Robot Hobo posted:Those horrible Democrats, making such outlandish demands, like "we should be allowed to know what this thing says that we're voting on that will significantly impact tens of millions of Americans." They're such scumbags. It's EXACTLY what the Dems did with Obamacare. "But that had several amendments introduced by Repub-"EXACTLY WHAT THE DEMS DID WITH OBAMACARE.
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Dr Christmas posted:It's EXACTLY what the Dems did with Obamacare. I can't imagine this will go over well. "All those things we said the Democrats did with Obamacare that were so terrible, well that was a totally unprincipled criticism on our parts because we're going to do it too!" VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 06:55 on Jun 22, 2017 |
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VitalSigns posted:I can't imagine this will go over well. https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/877740981239533569
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Jealous Cow posted:https://twitter.com/johnjcook/status/877731582211088384 How long until journalists start pulling recording stunts and solidarity sit-outs?
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Isn't "no press briefings at all" basically what the white house wants? If the journalists start showing up en masse with recording equipment wouldn't that give the white house the justification it needs to end the briefings?
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Charliegrs posted:Isn't "no press briefings at all" basically what the white house wants? If the journalists start showing up en masse with recording equipment wouldn't that give the white house the justification it needs to end the briefings? I don't think even Americans will accept, "The Press wanted to record and report on stuff!" as an excuse to stop doing anything.
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Mystic Mongol posted:I don't think even Americans will accept, "The Press wanted to record and report on stuff!" as an excuse to stop doing anything. I don't think they'll care.
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They should just print whatever they want with "White House refused to comment". "Sources say Trump got lost in his pantry; White House refused to comment."
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It's remarkable that you loving people elected this guy
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Craig K posted:
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namaste faggots posted:It's remarkable that you loving people elected this guy Technically, we didn't.
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PerniciousKnid posted:They should just print whatever they want with "White House refused to comment". "Sources say Trump got lost in his pantry; White House refused to comment." But...The White House refused to comment  (orb)
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namaste faggots posted:It's remarkable that you loving people elected this guy I'm guessing you're not an American so here's a really simplified reason as to why he was elected. We are one big country that basically houses the equivalent of 2 very different countries within it yet we think it's realistic that one person can govern these 2 very different countries. It probably wouldn't be this way had we just let the south secede in 1861 and not fought to take them back.
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from a couple pages back, but:Lightning Lord posted:Is there a German word for when someone correctly identifies at least part of the cause of a problem but implements the worst solution possible? there is the verb "verschlimmbessern" (ich verschlimmbessere, du verschlimmbesserst, er/sie/es verschlimmbessert etc.), which means to attempt to make something better but in the process end up making it even worse.
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Charliegrs posted:It probably wouldn't be this way had we just let the south secede in 1861 and not fought to take them back. It probably would have. I mean back then it was North vs. South, now it's Coastal vs. Flyover.
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