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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo

DesperateDan posted:

What times of day were you looking?

When it's really loving hot like this, they tend to go back and chill in the hive, being most active mid-morning and after 3.


I can only give anecdotal stuff but the active hive on the land I manage is doing great, and the apiarist who looks after it is having another good year

I'm in Sweden. I'm not exactly certain I've got something to worry about, it's just I've seen lots of flowers with no bees and that's just wrong

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Mousepractice
Jan 30, 2005

A pint of plain is your only man

TomViolence posted:

I got nothing against bees it's those bastard wasps I don't like.

They come over ere, they get in our bins, they don't work :argh:



or alternatively:

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Pesmerga posted:

This isn't quite true - my dad is type 2, and he would go hypoglycaemic every so often, usually if he'd continued to take his medication but had been particularly busy and hadn't got around to eating/drinking anything. Warning signs were him being very pale and sweaty, and if left for much longer, HUGE irritability and anger over irrational things/reasons, or conversations that didn't make any sense.

I'll attest to those being the symptoms of hypoglycaemia, at least for me. The non-physical symptoms vary because the effects of low blood sugar are very similar to being blackout drunk.

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

Pesmerga posted:

This isn't quite true - my dad is type 2, and he would go hypoglycaemic every so often, usually if he'd continued to take his medication but had been particularly busy and hadn't got around to eating/drinking anything. Warning signs were him being very pale and sweaty, and if left for much longer, HUGE irritability and anger over irrational things/reasons, or conversations that didn't make any sense.

Depends on whether they're on insulin tbh. Very unlikely though perhaps possible occasionally on oral medication like metformin. Doubtful Abbot is on insulin if she's only been diagnosed a few months. If she was hypoglycemia then sure thst would account for it.

High blood glucose on the other hand can cause tiredness and thirst and blurred vision but it would have to be pretty loving persistent to get to that level. And even then it shouldn't have any cognitive impact short term.

My issue isn't with Abbot because I agree that it's being blown out of proportion and we all have off days, I just get wound up when people use diabetes as an excuse because it brings both the insufferable 'LOL FAT MAYBE LAY OFF THE CAKE' and equally annoying 'oh the poor sick dear how vulnerable' types out. I get frustrated because the media always wilfully misunderstands the nature of the condition and people using it to excuse themselves directly contributes to oversimplified and often plain wrong attitudes to it.

I'm probably just bring precious but obviously it's a topic I have a personal investment in.

ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 11:45 on Jun 22, 2017

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
You have to admit Abbott was something else during Corbyn's speech. If you followed her eyes then she was staring unwaveringly at Boris without breaking contact and continually mouthing stuff like sit down, put your hand down, shut up, at him.

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo

josh04 posted:

Ah sweet, an excuse to post all the videos of bees I filmed out of my window at the beginning of the month. Between 12 and 6pm they were just methodologically working over this one bush which leans into my back garden. Since it got really really hot I haven't seen them out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alPEGAMrLuE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0jICspCD80
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZMSfalW8AA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXfr1mkUrwY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRoiCEk40Wg

Bees are p cool. A while back an absolutely enormous queen of (I believe) Bombus Subterraneus flew into my apartment. One of these but very gigantic, thought she was a giant hornet at first glance



Just gave me the once-over and flew out like she was all "yeah cool apartment dude thanks lol but no". Bumblebees don't give a gently caress.

Also apparently some idiot british thieves are stealing fifty Swedish Bombus Subterraneus queens every year to release in britain because you've destroyed all of their habitats. Thankfully Brexit will put a stop to that particular immigration

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
I heard Theresa May has been off her feed lately so maybe she gets a free pass for being awful, too?

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

TOXIC
There's a difference between "Flubs up some numbers in an interview" and "A constant, slow-motion car-crash through a wheatfield".

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

sassassin posted:

I heard Theresa May has been off her feed lately so maybe she gets a free pass for being awful, too?

She's also a woman so any criticism can be dismissed as misogyny.

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe
https://twitter.com/AP/status/877816212960325632
https://twitter.com/AP/status/877838284503883776
https://twitter.com/KarlreMarks/status/877652847566958594

What in the gently caress, UK?

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames
The government has said that 600 high rise buildings are covered in flammable cladding. The residents haven't been informed.

We're going to need EU labour to remove all the cladding and install sprinklers.

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

TOXIC

The middle class and their single-minded fetish for HOUSE PRICES will kill us all.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

That's OK, we can relocate them too. I hear there's a completely empty tower block just down the road that they could move into.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

DesperateDan posted:

What times of day were you looking?

When it's really loving hot like this, they tend to go back and chill in the hive, being most active mid-morning and after 3.


I can only give anecdotal stuff but the active hive on the land I manage is doing great, and the apiarist who looks after it is having another good year

I planted a load of wild flowers in the far corner of my garden (mainly because I assumed they wouldn't need much in the way of care) and there's always at least once big fat bumble bee doing her thing around them, and last night when I went out to water them there were six or seven obviously enjoying the evening coolness. Didn't have the heart to chase them off with an artificial rain storm.

kanonvandekempen
Mar 14, 2009

learnincurve posted:

Because we worked out the connection between bee murder and Nicotine based pesticides and banned them. Bare in mind that there are now over 500 peer reviewed papers and reports that prove this connection, and the people with a vested interest in these pesticides keep on rolling out the same few pet scientists with their bullshit "evidence".

Oddly enough iirc it was discovered by a school child who was doing a science project, it's really really not hard to prove. You could even do it at home if you own a net. You take some bees and put them in with plants sprayed with nicotine pesticides, wait a bit and then they are dead.

People denying this are as cuntish as climate change deniers.

Kinda weird that places that haven't banned neonicotinoids are also seeing their honey bee colonies thrive.

Also A+ understanding of the scientific method in your post.

Praseodymi
Aug 26, 2010

SteelMentor posted:

The middle class and their single-minded fetish for HOUSE PRICES will kill us all.

Not if we kill them first.

Lightning Lord
Feb 21, 2013

$200 a day, plus expenses

Is the DUP being totally betrayed by the Tories and the UK ending up with a hard Brexit that fucks over Ireland a possibility and if so, would that likely restart the Troubles?

Gyro Zeppeli
Jul 19, 2012

sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

Praseodymi posted:

Not if we kill them first.

Kill them, eat them, take their houses. Zero downside.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

Pissflaps posted:

The government has said that 600 high rise buildings are covered in flammable cladding. The residents haven't been informed.

We're going to need EU labour to remove all the cladding and install sprinklers.

Get rid of Brussels' safety regs and I can get up there with my ladder and sort it out.

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

Lightning Lord posted:

Is the DUP being totally betrayed by the Tories and the UK ending up with a hard Brexit that fucks over Ireland a possibility and if so, would that likely restart the Troubles?

yes and yes

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

Gyro Zeppeli posted:

Kill them, eat them, take their houses. Zero downside.

Then you have a new middle class and the cannibalistic cycle continues.

waffle
May 12, 2001
HEH

Lightning Lord posted:

Is the DUP being totally betrayed by the Tories and the UK ending up with a hard Brexit that fucks over Ireland a possibility and if so, would that likely restart the Troubles?
well the DUP seem like they want a hard brexit because Are Union but yes that would gently caress over ireland and restart the troubles

Bryter
Nov 6, 2011

but since we are small we may-
uh, we may be the losers

Lightning Lord posted:

Is the DUP being totally betrayed by the Tories and the UK ending up with a hard Brexit that fucks over Ireland a possibility and if so, would that likely restart the Troubles?

A hardening of the border between NI and the Republic will not restart the troubles. It was never about the border.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

SteelMentor posted:

The middle class and their single-minded fetish for HOUSE PRICES will kill us all.

Those people are a bit above middle class. Maybe upper upper middle class?

Aspirational middle class?

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

waffle posted:

well the DUP seem like they want a hard brexit because Are Union but yes that would gently caress over ireland and restart the troubles
Totally depends on the dupper.

Some of them yes some of them no because they understand that crossborder trade with the republic is extremely important at least until the inevitable + very important for the mainland tunnel is dug to scotland.

Gyro Zeppeli
Jul 19, 2012

sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

sassassin posted:

Then you have a new middle class and the cannibalistic cycle continues.

Self-sufficency. The system works!

Bryter posted:

A hardening of the border between NI and the Republic will not restart the troubles. It was never about the border.

It's more that having a hard border violates the GFA.

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

Bryter posted:

A hardening of the border between NI and the Republic will not restart the troubles.

Violating the GFA might though.

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer
The GFA's only use at this point is for both SF and the DUP to concern troll each other about proceedings at Stormont.

Captain Fargle
Feb 16, 2011

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...y-a7802286.html

"Real misery for no good purpose"

ultrabindu
Jan 28, 2009

Captain Fargle posted:

"Real misery for no good purpose"

New Tory party slogan?

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

spectralent posted:

Violating the GFA might though.

No it would lead to a collapse of devolution and a political stalemate but that doesn't equal the troubles returning.

Bryter
Nov 6, 2011

but since we are small we may-
uh, we may be the losers

Gyro Zeppeli posted:

It's more that having a hard border violates the GFA.

If so it'll be amended.

Somehow I don't think Gerry's going to dig up his armalite because a tangential aspect of the GFA has to be changed to reflect the new situation.

The GFA has already accomplished its purpose. Nationalists have their seat at the table, policing, housing and employment are not massively discriminatory. The troubles aren't coming back.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

ultrabindu posted:

New Tory party slogan?

For the Tories, causing misery is the purpose.

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

kustomkarkommando posted:

No it would lead to a collapse of devolution and a political stalemate but that doesn't equal the troubles returning.

You don't think there's even a possibility that in fifty years people are going to be looking at Brexit and the disasterous tory handling of it in a "factors leading up to" section in the wikipedia article about the second troubles? You're way more optimistic than I am.

Lightning Lord
Feb 21, 2013

$200 a day, plus expenses

If the border is hard wouldn't that effectively destroy Ireland as we know it though? I thought part of the point is how free Irish people are to move around the whole island

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

Lightning Lord posted:

If the border is hard wouldn't that effectively destroy Ireland as we know it though? I thought part of the point is how free Irish people are to move around the whole island
If there's going to be a hard border, it will be at the ports and airports of Northern Ireland, with the rest of the Union.

Lightning Lord
Feb 21, 2013

$200 a day, plus expenses

jBrereton posted:

If there's going to be a hard border, it will be at the ports and airports of Northern Ireland, with the rest of the Union.

So you're saying the land border between Ireland and NI itself will be soft? Would the EU allow for that kind of special treatment?

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

spectralent posted:

You don't think there's even a possibility that in fifty years people are going to be looking at Brexit and the disasterous tory handling of it in a "factors leading up to" section in the wikipedia article about the second troubles? You're way more optimistic than I am.

Yeah dissidents don't have anything approaching popular support and SF is not going to launch a policy volte face to reembrace physical force republicanism and abandon the consent principle as it would destroy their position in the Dail and their greater goal of becoming the legitimated elected government.

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

Lightning Lord posted:

So you're saying the land border between Ireland and NI itself will be soft? Would the EU allow for that kind of special treatment?
Sure why not.

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spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

kustomkarkommando posted:

Yeah dissidents don't have anything approaching popular support and SF is not going to launch a policy volte face to reembrace physical force republicanism and abandon the consent principle as it would destroy their position in the Dail and their greater goal of becoming the legitimated elected government.

There's been too many things that've suddenly degenerated really quickly lately for me to feel secure saying it's impossible.

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