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Trabisnikof posted:None of those talking points are wrong. The AHCA is a bigger deal than trying to unseat Pelosi right now. 
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If Obama (or anyone really) got up and said "Republicans are evil and conservatism is a mental illness," we all know what the response would be
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Glazier posted:gently caress these people, I am so glad I left the Democratic party. We don't need you anyway. Have fun voting for people who will kill literally millions, and then go gently caress yourself.
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LionArcher posted:What I don't understand is how do they think this will work for them long term ? It doesn't have to "work". They know they'll be handed complete power 50% of the time regardless of what they do so while they have the reins, they will force through as much bullshit as they can and then obstruct and break norms while not in power.
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mcmagic posted:I have no idea why you are so sure about that. Republican voters seem to care just as much, if not more, about doing things that make liberals sad than about keeping their health insurance. this is basically why keeping the focus on the bill being poo poo, rather than the democrats opposing it, is important
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Your Taint posted:We don't need you anyway. Have fun voting for people who will kill literally millions, and then go gently caress yourself. I'm not voting for the GOP, gently caress them. I'm voting for people who don't keep trying the same poo poo over and over again and then are surprised when it doesn't work.
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Glazier posted:I'm not voting for the GOP, gently caress them. I'm voting for people who don't keep trying the same poo poo over and over again and then are surprised when it doesn't work. So clearly you're not voting third party.
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Glazier posted:I'm not voting for the GOP, gently caress them. I'm voting for people who don't keep trying the same poo poo over and over again and then are surprised when it doesn't work. actually, you are sorry you're too stupid to understand that
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:If Obama (or anyone really) got up and said "Republicans are evil and conservatism is a mental illness," we all know what the response would be The response is going to be terrible anyway, so why would you let it affect your course of action? Why can't democrats learn this lesson.
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:The response is going to be terrible anyway, so why would you let it affect your course of action? Why can't democrats learn this lesson. said Kathy Griffin, shortly before she clicked the "buy" button on discounted stage blood.
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Jun 22, 2017 21:27
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:The response is going to be terrible anyway, so why would you let it affect your course of action? Why can't democrats learn this lesson. Because their friends are Republicans, their donors give to Republicans and they really want "sane" Republicans to vote for them since they are so centrist.
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interesting tweet: this guy is basically the authority on nevada state politics: https://twitter.com/RalstonReports/status/877976475533692929 https://twitter.com/RalstonReports/status/877985903439826944 i can't say i follow his logic but its worth noting
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Trabisnikof posted:said Kathy Griffin, shortly before she clicked the "buy" button on discounted stage blood. Hmm, is there a difference between doing something stupid and doing something the republicans don't like?
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Glazier posted:Because their friends are Republicans, their donors give to Republicans and they really want "sane" Republicans to vote for them since they are so centrist. Or because calling Republicans "evil" is a counterproductive hissy-fit kind of action and they know better than to give Republicans the nice fundraising clip. Heck Yes! Loam! posted:Hmm, is there a difference between doing something stupid and doing something the republicans don't like? Exactly, and Obama getting up and saying this: Nissin Cup Nudist posted:If Obama (or anyone really) got up and said "Republicans are evil and conservatism is a mental illness," we all know what the response would be Is one of those stupid ideas.
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Trabisnikof posted:Or because calling Republicans "evil" is a counterproductive hissy-fit kind of action and they know better than to give Republicans the nice fundraising clip. Yet the Tea Party runs the country, surely we can't have the Democrats do that!
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evilweasel posted:interesting tweet: this guy is basically the authority on nevada state politics: If Heller goes No I think the bill is as good as dead. Again, IF.
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Jun 22, 2017 21:32
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Glazier posted:Yet the Tea Party runs the country, surely we can't have the Democrats do that! And you've got a very childish view of politics if you think the Tea Party runs the country because some Republican politician called Obama evil. Ignore the massive organized effort to spread insane views across the country, use state laws to crush Democrats and use non-profits to funnel the money. It was them calling Obama evil!
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Jun 22, 2017 21:32
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But her emails!
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Jun 22, 2017 21:33
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Obama calling Republicans a bunch of evil pricks would be satisfying but would just galvanize support for this bill. The time for him to abandon bipartisanship was somewhere around 2009, there's no point now.
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Glazier posted:Yet the Tea Party runs the country, surely we can't have the Democrats do that! You don't happen to have a pre-existing condition, do you? That's going to play a part in how I feel about this bill.
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Jun 22, 2017 21:33
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As in dunking on women's right to decide how their body is treated wasn't enough, https://twitter.com/ericawerner/status/877984785636786176 God forbid a senator can't do his job because of THOSE RISQUÉ FOREARMS
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This thread really gets depressing without a daily dose of Spicer.
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Jun 22, 2017 21:34
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:How do you propose she does that when idiots in her own party listen to the GOP talking points about her. By responding that they want to make it about her rather than their own terrible policies; it shouldn't be Stand With Nancy, it should be Fight Trumpcare, or better yet, make proposals of their own to fight for. Solely playing defense is a bad strategy, as is allowing the Republicans to dictate the battlefield.
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Spaced God posted:As in dunking on women's right to decide how their body is treated wasn't enough, So much for Republicans supporting the 2nd Amendment...
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LionArcher posted:What I don't understand is how do they think this will work for them long term ? Like, if poo poo gets really bad, what's to stop poor desperate former military for not just targeting the senators who vote yes on this bill? Them and their families? People like Mitch are painting a huge target on their backs. Uh, if it comes to violence then that is a game the state's gonna win every single time.
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WeAreTheRomans posted:So much for Republicans supporting the 2nd Amendment... Phone posting but imagine this post was just every photo from that photo shoot of Paul Ryan lifting
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Jun 22, 2017 21:36
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Spaced God posted:As in dunking on women's right to decide how their body is treated wasn't enough, Hot take: https://twitter.com/StevenTDennis/status/877987501616513024
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:The response is going to be terrible anyway, so why would you let it affect your course of action? Why can't democrats learn this lesson. Hillary tried this with the deplorables. It didnt work Glazier posted:Yet the Tea Party runs the country, surely we can't have the Democrats do that! Republicans and Democrats have different standards. What works for the Republicans will never work for the Dems because the system is rigged for the GOP.
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WeAreTheRomans posted:So much for Republicans supporting the 2nd Amendment... This is funny
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Hillary tried this with the deplorables. It didnt work It will work, if you also put a strong message behind it. It won't work if the only difference between you and them is you are "civil" and "serious".
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Jun 22, 2017 21:38
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Cue reps wearing skirts like those kids in England.
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Jun 22, 2017 21:41
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Lote posted:Who will people blame when their insurance premiums go up? It's going to be Congress and Trump. They can try to blame Obama but that is going to be less effective the longer that Trumpcare is in place. The effects of repealing ACA will likely be delayed so that the full damage doesn't kick in for a couple years. If Trump (or Pence, or whoever) wins re-election in 2020, then none of it mattered anyway. But if a Democrat unseats Trump in 2020, the country's healthcare will be starting to seriously fall apart and begin leaving bankrupted corpses all over the country just in time for Republicans to blame it all on the Democrat who just took office. It won't make any sense to anyone who bothers to do the math, but that won't be an issue, because somehow that trick ALWAYS works for them. The plan will be to ride that story into retaking a third of the government in 2022, and the final third again in 2024. (I'm just assuming the Judicial branch will already be turbo-hosed for a few decades)
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There's a Democrats suck thread, this is the Trump thread. How is this hard?
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Robot Hobo posted:Think of it as a safety net. Yeah having it take effect a few years from now will sadly work out exactly as they're hoping, everyone will just blame the other party. I mean look at that poll posted a page back where Republicans blamed Obama for Katrina.
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Spaced God posted:As in dunking on women's right to decide how their body is treated wasn't enough, Mike Pence in the House.
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Robot Hobo posted:Think of it as a safety net. Nah, they don't think that far ahead. They just want to win one more election basking in the glory of having done something but without seeing the pain. Then just retire in six years and let the new guys worry about it.
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bird cooch posted:There's a Democrats suck thread, this is the Trump thread. Lol we've had derails over wild pigs, the definition of mountains, Dennis Rodman, and uranium in Wyoming. I think you need to manage your expectations.
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Democrats don't suck. They reduce pressure on Republicans, causing a blow out.
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evilweasel posted:interesting tweet: this guy is basically the authority on nevada state politics: I think he meant to say "what Republicans are hoping for", not Dems
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