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Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

Burkion posted:

I'm not sure how some one could play Dead By Daylight for as long as I've been playing Friday the 13th thus far. I only got DbD relatively recently, last December, and I never really gelled with it too well because there's not a whole lot you can really do. You run and fix generators and keep an eye on where the trapdoor is.

And it used to be, not sure if it's still the case, that you couldn't level up in private matches.

With Friday the 13th, there's just so much poo poo you can gently caress around with. The addition of vehicles and weapons and seeing how badly you can break both is really fun, and the best part is, you can que up a private lobby, do literally nothing productive towards the actual goal of the game, and still get just as much experience as you would in a real game.

The only time you don't is if you volunteer to be the person who tests the car or the shotgun on other players. Every gently caress off science camp match we had, we got full points for because it is a legitimate way to play the game.

"Should we gently caress around and put a boat on the car?"

"Why not, we'll get the experience either way"

The fact that they give experience and achievements for playing private games is really cool. It's annoying that devs care enough to not allow that. Yeah, there will always be some boosters who exp grind but who loving cares? Most people are still going to play the game in a fun way because they're not brokebrained morons.

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Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
They probably realized that this game really didn't even need an XP system anyway, but threw it in because that's what gamers are familiar with these days. There's really no reason they couldn't have just made all the Jasons and counselors available from the start and just award CP that can be used for the kills/perks.

ditty bout my clitty
May 28, 2011

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe

Regrettable posted:

This game had a typical outcome for a Duster Jason round. What sets it apart is that a few people spent more than 10 minutes trying to get out in the four-seater. Also, Duster manages to grab someone out of the drivers seat from the passenger side.

The Little Engine That Couldn't

This is awesome

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Basebf555 posted:

They probably realized that this game really didn't even need an XP system anyway, but threw it in because that's what gamers are familiar with these days. There's really no reason they couldn't have just made all the Jasons and counselors available from the start and just award CP that can be used for the kills/perks.

Grinding is a really basic way of encouraging gameplay. By gating content behind a certain number of gameplay hours, it rewards you for putting forth additional effort to play and unlock it.

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!
his assertion is that you could have had a plenty functional skinner box without XP at all, and he's probably right about that. the main function it serves is that it funnels you into the easier to play characters (jason 3, kenny, aj) before getting into characters that require some more presence of mind (jason 7, chubs, tiffany), which is still valuable but less so i guess.

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!
somewhat related to the above: i have ascended. last night i turned on both random jason and random survivor. i have set up my perks the general way i want but i have otherwise given myself over fully to the chaos and welcome it with open arms. it is a good pain.

Yardbomb
Jul 11, 2011

What's with the eh... bretonnian dance, sir?

Update on my end for perks, the radio one seems to work no matter what slot I've got it in, which I'm thankful for cause psychic kicks rear end. I play Buggzy a lot so far and his luck is hot garbage, so it removes one more obstacle in really getting rolling at the start of a match.

MacheteZombie
Feb 4, 2007

Yardbomb posted:

Update on my end for perks, the radio one seems to work no matter what slot I've got it in, which I'm thankful for cause psychic kicks rear end. I play Buggzy a lot so far and his luck is hot garbage, so it removes one more obstacle in really getting rolling at the start of a match.

luck doesn't affect item spawns

*Increases weapon durability and gives minor increases to many other stats. Also increases chance to stun Jason.

The increases to other stats are as follows:

*Decreases the amount of Stamina consumed when performing a dodge while in Combat Stance.
*Slightly increases the amount of Stamina you receive after landing an attack on Jason.
*Slightly increases the amount of Stamina you receive after breaking free from Jason's grab.
*Slightly reduces the amount of stamina you lose when blocking one of Jason's attacks.
*Slightly reduces the amount that you stumble when fear is high.
*Slightly reduces the amount of noise you make.
*More swings before weapon breaks. (weapon durability)
*Chance to not take damage while climbing out broken window.

Burkion
May 10, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Coolguye posted:

somewhat related to the above: i have ascended. last night i turned on both random jason and random survivor. i have set up my perks the general way i want but i have otherwise given myself over fully to the chaos and welcome it with open arms. it is a good pain.

Welcome my brother

Yardbomb
Jul 11, 2011

What's with the eh... bretonnian dance, sir?

MacheteZombie posted:

luck doesn't affect item spawns

Welp, then let's just say my irl luck is hot garbage instead.

MacheteZombie
Feb 4, 2007

Yardbomb posted:

Welp, then let's just say my irl luck is hot garbage instead.

I will say the game has a sense of humor about item spawns. When I was rocking the psychic perk I always stumbled onto several radios in unsearched cabins, now that I swapped it off (it ain't that great tbh) it takes me forever to find one most games.

Grey Fox
Jan 5, 2004

I still feel dumb that it took me 12 hours of playing to realize map kiosks have...maps.

Tinfoil Papercut
Jul 27, 2016

by Athanatos

Grey Fox posted:

I still feel dumb that it took me 12 hours of playing to realize map kiosks have...maps.

Play some pub matches and witness the: "I don't know how to jog" 's.

Yardbomb
Jul 11, 2011

What's with the eh... bretonnian dance, sir?

Though in a reversal of my poor luck with items, I did have a match earlier where it was me as Bugman, then a Tommy and Jenny left at the end and the cops were about a minute or two off. We got the car going, got stopped, stunned Jason and then I realized I couldn't grab a new weapon or get in the car, I told them to go because I was bugged, so they zoomed off while I tried to bait Jason. I managed to juke him a couple times until finally getting cornered and out of breath in the big bathroom/shower place, I told Jason "Hey man, go dunk me in the toilet at least" and he wanted to oblige before I realized either you can't do it there or executing me with prompts might be bugged too. Either way, he got through most of the toilets unsuccessfully and then the auto-breakout set off, I ran for it and the car was nearing the exit so he went screw it and morphed out, but didn't get em in time. I crept all the way from there to the exit with the cops, Jason was sitting on the bridge out when he finally spotted me in the woods close by, started to shift so I got around the little bumper gates on the side of the road and he picked the wrong place to stop and try a grab, realized he couldn't walk over them and it'd take too long to go around and tried to morph, he morphed into the water under the bridge and came back out on the wrong side of the gates again while I jogged to safety.

The one or two guys with mics say something to the effect of "How in the hell did you survive all of that while bugged" :allears:

MacheteZombie
Feb 4, 2007

Tinfoil Papercut posted:

Play some pub matches and witness the: "I don't know how to jog" 's.

I think this is the first thing you told me when we started playing.

Burkion
May 10, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
I didn't realize it was either when I started playing the beta back in December. I figured it out after a bit and I looked at the controls

Hockles
Dec 25, 2007

Resident of Camp Blood
Crystal Lake

:siren: IMPORTANT BREAKING NEWS :siren:

They fixed the spelling typo on the "Cooking with Jason Voorhees" achievement.


We now return you to your regularly schedule chat.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

Hockles posted:

:siren: IMPORTANT BREAKING NEWS :siren:

They fixed the spelling typo on the "Cooking with Jason Voorhees" achievement.


We now return you to your regularly schedule chat.

Pretty funny that they love the franchise enough to actually go and correct something like that.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

Hockles posted:

:siren: IMPORTANT BREAKING NEWS :siren:

They fixed the spelling typo on the "Cooking with Jason Voorhees" achievement.


We now return you to your regularly schedule chat.

They fixed that but not achievements being broken in general? lol

404notfound
Mar 5, 2006

stop staring at me

I just used SAM to give myself all the achievements that I know for sure I should have, like "killed your first counselor"

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!
many achievements got fixed on pc with the security patch btw

i won't claim they all work forever now but they're working a hell of a lot more than they used to

The Anime Liker
Aug 8, 2009

by VideoGames

DrNutt posted:

They fixed that but not achievements being broken in general? lol

I'm no fancy big city computing man, but something tells me that fix took a lot less time than debugging the in-game actions to trigger awards.

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






404notfound posted:

I just used SAM to give myself all the achievements that I know for sure I should have, like "killed your first counselor"

:same:

Diesel Fucker
Aug 14, 2003

I spent my rent money on tentacle porn.

Coolguye posted:

somewhat related to the above: i have ascended. last night i turned on both random jason and random survivor. i have set up my perks the general way i want but i have otherwise given myself over fully to the chaos and welcome it with open arms. it is a good pain.

The only way to play.

I was sure that I'd have got to level 31 tonight. Quick LAST night after hitting level 30.

Nope. Real bad with the disconnects tonight. I know you still keep the XP, but you miss out on the bonus stuff I believe. Plus having to restart the game, find a new lobby, blah blah blah.

THEN I refuse to sleep until I play at least 1 game as melty-Robocop guy Jason. So I don't know what the heck.

Regrettable
Jan 5, 2010



Burkion posted:

Yeah but we had literally everyone looking for it for drat near the entire match. Well

Okay

Venus was killing Terry but that's also a noble goal. I think we scoured every corner of the map for the fucker until the two minute sign hit. At that point I just told Venus to get out and Weekly to kill everyone else. Venus got the Tiffany achievement that way too!

Yeah, I personally searched twice in almost every building and other people went back and rechecked the other buildings.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

Coolguye posted:

many achievements got fixed on pc with the security patch btw

i won't claim they all work forever now but they're working a hell of a lot more than they used to

So far the only ones that have worked for me are during private matches or the ones that require doing things multiple times. Like I got the achievement for killing 13 counselors and still hadn't unlocked the achievement for killing one.

codenameFANGIO
May 4, 2012

What are you even booing here?

Like ten minutes ago I opened a drawer and took out the keys and then when I came back the drawer was closed and contained ... another pair of keys? :raise:

The Anime Liker
Aug 8, 2009

by VideoGames
Just found a propeller in a cabin bathroom (where health spray usually sits) as far from the boat as possible, so basically every theory about spawn locations is bullshit.

Doctor_Acula
May 24, 2011
I really should start playing this on PC so I can get in on this goon nonsense. PS4 is full of people with open mics blasting bad music and kids calling me names.

Diesel Fucker
Aug 14, 2003

I spent my rent money on tentacle porn.
Holy smokes. Went an entire match with this one fella jut invisible to me until the LAST SECOND when he lit up. That was some pro-hiding there.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

Doctor_Acula posted:

I really should start playing this on PC so I can get in on this goon nonsense. PS4 is full of people with open mics blasting bad music and kids calling me names.

Yeah, despite my initial bad luck with lobbies and the horrendous names some people have that aren't moderated by Steam at all, playing on Steam has generally been a better experience than Xbox, and not just because the game works! Playing with goons is even better, obviously.

Lastdancer
Apr 21, 2008
Leprechad is a PC exclusive

Doctor_Acula
May 24, 2011
I encountered my first role-playing Chad last night on PS4. That was such a joy.

"Deb, you fix the car. I'm gonna check my 401k."
"Help, servant, the poor kid is after me!"
"A locked door? Well, nothing money can't solve!"

Edit: I was almost convinced it had to be a goon, because the guy was so dedicated to Chadding it up.

Doctor_Acula fucked around with this message at 22:53 on Jun 22, 2017

Barent
Jun 15, 2007

Never die in vain.
It's stupid to engage Jason in melee unless you have a pocket knife, right?

Gay Horney
Feb 10, 2013

by Reene

Barent posted:

It's stupid to engage Jason in melee unless you have a pocket knife, right?

People say you can dodge or juke grabs and shift grabs but I'm not convinced

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

Barent posted:

It's stupid to engage Jason in melee unless you have a pocket knife, right?

Stupid? Yes. Something I do almost every single round? Also yes.

Tinfoil Papercut
Jul 27, 2016

by Athanatos

Gay Horney posted:

People say you can dodge or juke grabs and shift grabs but I'm not convinced

It takes a lot of practice to bait a grab or swing out without getting tagged and even the best will screw up with some frequency.

Doctor_Acula
May 24, 2011
I usually have luck if I try to swing and get him to walk into the animation. It takes some getting used to, but I'm pretty adept at it with the wrench now.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
There's just nothing like timing it perfectly and laying Jason out with the baseball bat, so I swing away, pocket knife or no.

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Sea Lily
Aug 5, 2007

Everything changes, Pit.
Even gods.

If Jason goes for a shift-grab, your best bet is running towards where he was standing so he overshoots you. If he doesn't reappear and whiff immediately, then you've got to gamble and just be erratic.

Other than that you just gotta get good at knowing how to stay out of grab range and strafe around him.

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