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Cojawfee posted:Star Trek has way too many one off bits of technology that never get used again. "We'll be out of phase, so I've rigged up these devices that will put up a skin tight force field around us." Why isn't that tech used all the time? Get a bigger power source and use that to shield everyone from phaser blasts like the Borg. Worked in TAS
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# ? Jun 5, 2024 03:13 |
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Cojawfee posted:Star Trek has way too many one off bits of technology that never get used again. "We'll be out of phase, so I've rigged up these devices that will put up a skin tight force field around us." Why isn't that tech used all the time? Get a bigger power source and use that to shield everyone from phaser blasts like the Borg. There's been about as much continuity since 1966 as a Silver Age comic book. The series bible they put out in '86 for Next Gen writers was the exception, not the rule. And even if it was, they immediately ignored it.
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# ? Jun 23, 2017 00:29 |
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Data Graham posted:It shows up veeeeeeeery occasionally. Lol
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# ? Jun 23, 2017 02:47 |
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Apparently Shades of Gray is considered possibly the worst episode of the whole series so I'm glad I watched it just to know what that means.
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# ? Jun 23, 2017 02:48 |
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You're over the hump. I finished my re-watch the other week, and I kept getting consistently surprised by the quality of season 3.
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# ? Jun 23, 2017 02:50 |
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The_Doctor posted:Man, everywhere is getting so mad about the designs in Discovery. I don't knkw why, either. I mean I'm as cynical on the production as anyone, but I'm willing to give them a chance at least, and I don't mind that transporter set. Very '50s/'60s, which I can get behind. I'll take something interesting like that, in the spirit of what TOS might have looked like if they had the budget, over trying too hard to ape the actual TOS look.
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# ? Jun 23, 2017 03:03 |
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I'm okay with the modern pseudo-retro look. At least it doesn't look as dark as the earlier pictures looked.
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# ? Jun 23, 2017 03:09 |
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Zurui posted:Discovery emulates JJTrek designs: OMG IT'S TOO MODERN WHAT ABOUT TOS Those uneven cardboard-looking wall panels would have been an embarrassment in 1966: Stylistically they're very different, but those wall panels just scream "low budget trash!"
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# ? Jun 23, 2017 03:21 |
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Maybe they're rotating or flagellating or something? I don't know, I'm posting from my phone so maybe it just doesn't look as bad on a smaller screen. I'm willing to wait on judgement until I see it in motion.
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# ? Jun 23, 2017 03:51 |
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Yeah I'm willing to bet that it looks much better on-camera.
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# ? Jun 23, 2017 03:55 |
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I'll wait and see what it looks like in motion. Things often look drastically different when they are moving vs when you can just stare at some press image and pick every nit.
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# ? Jun 23, 2017 03:55 |
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shadok posted:I hate literally everything about it. Same. The_Doctor posted:Proper TOS looking phaser hilt there. But this I'll grudgingly allow. The Bloop posted:They intentionally made a prequel which is between two known visual style references and then apparently just went hog wild. Pretty much this. If you didn't want Trekkies bitching that it doesn't look like "The Cage" (or the first minutes of JJTrek) then DON'T SET IT AT THAT TIME. Madurai posted:There's been about as much continuity since 1966 as a Silver Age comic book. The series bible they put out in '86 for Next Gen writers was the exception, not the rule. And even if it was, they immediately ignored it. lol wut TNG gave us the Okudas. It was when spergy fans blossomed into being behind the scenes on the show, and technical manuals and emcyclopedias went from fanon to Official Sources that were both sold in bookstores and used in the writer's room.
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# ? Jun 23, 2017 04:14 |
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Cojawfee posted:I'll wait and see what it looks like in motion. Things often look drastically different when they are moving vs when you can just stare at some press image and pick every nit. The other thing to consider is that EW screencaps and photo shoots are notoriously poo poo, especially for a film magazine.
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# ? Jun 23, 2017 04:18 |
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It looks fine?
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# ? Jun 23, 2017 04:20 |
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idgaf about Star Trek prequels anymore and it would take the new show looking amazing to get over that, and it doesn't. They need to keep carrying forward the plot.
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# ? Jun 23, 2017 04:23 |
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Don't forget that sound design is important too, so all the background hums and beeps and boops and such can help elevate otherwise weak visuals
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# ? Jun 23, 2017 04:31 |
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dont even fink about it posted:idgaf about Star Trek prequels anymore and it would take the new show looking amazing to get over that, and it doesn't. I'm just going to flat out disagree with this. There is no "the plot" in Star Trek, and what IS there is really dumb and bad. I just Do Not Care about Alpha Quadrant politics and hanging around in Earth's back yard. If they ever make a post-Voyager show then they'd better go to Andromeda or one of the Magellanic Clouds or something.
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# ? Jun 23, 2017 04:41 |
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Voyager and most of Enterprise (as well as other horseshit like Mass Effect Andromeda) have proven it doesn't loving matter where or when you go if you're not interested or able enough to tell new and interesting stories when you get there
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# ? Jun 23, 2017 04:59 |
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Firebert posted:It looks fine? Please don't troll.
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# ? Jun 23, 2017 05:08 |
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dont even fink about it posted:idgaf about Star Trek prequels anymore and it would take the new show looking amazing to get over that, and it doesn't. It really bothers me that they won't do this despite JJ Trek creating an incredible future to explore with the destruction of Romulus GIMME MY ROMULAN SPACE PIRATES
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# ? Jun 23, 2017 05:10 |
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Tighclops posted:Voyager and most of Enterprise (as well as other horseshit like Mass Effect Andromeda) have proven it doesn't loving matter where or when you go if you're not interested or able enough to tell new and interesting stories when you get there I'm not disagreeing with this, but I am saying the TNG era is tapped out unless you want to reset somehow. Even by the end of TNG it was starting to become tech/particle of the week solving things, and Larry Niven they are not, by which I mean, most of the time there's no consistency or thought put into it. If they had the human element working for them then it could've worked still, as it did for TNG/DS9, but it got pretty ridiculous especially with Voyager. So I guess if you want to soft reboot the TNG era with a core set of tech that's internally consistent, you could probably go on with "the plot" as it were. Maybe you could do something interesting, even. I'd be willing to give that the same shot I'm giving Discovery, although that's not saying much.
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# ? Jun 23, 2017 05:14 |
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It's weird to me that there is a fetishization of the Enterprise assignment patch in new Trek to the point that it is placed in designs where it doesn't even make sense while ignoring literally every other aesthetic feature of the original series. Granted, that aesthetic does not translate particularly well to contemporary media but to reduce it to that one symbol is absurd. Then again, excessively emphasizing one characteristic is pretty much the way most new Trek characters are written so I don't know why I expect better.
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# ? Jun 23, 2017 06:24 |
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I'm guessing that when they turned the assignment patch into the communicator, they completely forgot it is supposed to be different for each ship. Or they just didn't care and realized it would be too expensive to make new ones for each ship so they just made a poo poo ton of the one kind to have everyone use.
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# ? Jun 23, 2017 06:30 |
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Given that all the non-Enterprise patches in TOS looked like utter poo poo, I'm happy to just quietly retcon that idea away. (And they'd already used the Enterprise symbol on other ships in the movies before TNG came along...)
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# ? Jun 23, 2017 06:35 |
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Cojawfee posted:I'm guessing that when they turned the assignment patch into the communicator, they completely forgot it is supposed to be different for each ship. Or they just didn't care and realized it would be too expensive to make new ones for each ship so they just made a poo poo ton of the one kind to have everyone use. The Delta assignment patch in TOS was meant to be fleetwide for ships originally; designers got confused because Antares (as a merchant ship) had its own patch early on, so they gave Constellation and Exeter their own patches. Justman and Roddenberry then sent out a grumpy memo and Lexington and Defiant used the Delta. It entered the collective trek consciousness anyway so Enterprise then retconned Defiant into having its own patch. Like everything about TOS, it was incredibly inconsistent. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 06:51 on Jun 23, 2017 |
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Epsilon IX had its own patch as well. Using a unified patch makes sense; it's the use of it as a fabric pattern, for example, that strikes me as odd.
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# ? Jun 23, 2017 07:28 |
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Starfleet Command had it's own patch too in TOS. I quite liked the NASA-style patches in Enterprise.
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# ? Jun 23, 2017 09:00 |
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Riker, you made lovely scrambled alien eggs. Nobody likes your cooking except for Worf.
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# ? Jun 23, 2017 10:03 |
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:What do you reckon the transporter visual effect will be like Blakes 7-style crayon outline
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# ? Jun 23, 2017 10:31 |
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1000 Brown M and Ms posted:Starfleet Command had it's own patch too in TOS. A sucky one. Who wants to wear a flower as your space-logo. If anything, though, this was the overall Starfleet logo in TOS:
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# ? Jun 23, 2017 10:37 |
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Mirror Universe Boomerang Starfleet, headquartered in New South Wales.
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# ? Jun 23, 2017 10:45 |
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Two Owls posted:Blakes 7-style crayon outline Needs that musical sting every time they beam down to a planet too.
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# ? Jun 23, 2017 11:48 |
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MikeJF posted:A sucky one. Who wants to wear a flower as your space-logo. Love that space dirt on the model
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# ? Jun 23, 2017 11:54 |
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TheScott2K posted:Love that space dirt on the model Space is surprisingly dirty
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# ? Jun 23, 2017 13:02 |
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http://trekmovie.com/2017/06/22/a-close-up-look-at-star-trek-discovery-uniforms-infographic/ They put way too much fiddly detail into something that's going to be airing on a service that has the video quality of 2006 youtube. Those rank pips are going to be unresolvable on CBS all-access. Also, on behalf of all colorblind people everywhere, a sincere gently caress you for using metallic gold for one division and metallic bronze for another. At least the division is on the badge too.
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# ? Jun 23, 2017 14:25 |
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So, about that transporter.. from the article:quote:This particular transporter bay is aboard the U.S.S. Shenzhou and it's unlike any that Trek fans have ever seen before. So if you love this new design, great, it's in the show. If you don't, hold that thought, because the transporter bay in the U.S.S. Discovery is very different from this one (and has not yet been seen).
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# ? Jun 23, 2017 14:25 |
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bull3964 posted:http://trekmovie.com/2017/06/22/a-close-up-look-at-star-trek-discovery-uniforms-infographic/ quote:These new uniforms appear to be the most intricate of any seen before in the franchise, either on TV or film; providing a particular challenge to cosplayers seeking to craft their own. Showrunner Aaron Harberts recently cited them as one of the reasons the show has been delayed; they flew a costume designer to Switzerland to get the fabric, and some of the detailing had to be custom-made using 3D printers.
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# ? Jun 23, 2017 14:34 |
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Maybe it's the Battle Transporter.
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# ? Jun 23, 2017 14:34 |
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I get the feeling that the Shenzhou is supposed to look more dated before we see the Discovery. A lot of what I am seeing looks somewhat similar to the NX-01 sets.
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# ? Jun 23, 2017 14:43 |
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I think it's just that the Shenzou is meant to be an old ship with older technology to try to make the Discovery look more modern Edit: ^^ yes
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