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What really baffles me is how these irreconciliable visions failed to be ironed out from the get go. This was the case with Garth Edwards too, supposedly. I assume these young directors just go nuts when they get the Star Wars phone call and basically say the most inoffensive things so they get the job. Or Lucasfilms is just bad at communicating expectations.
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Tars Tarkas posted:It will probably be an editorial mess like Rogue One was, but IMHO they at least pulled that off into a passable film I like better than Episode 7. Multiple books will be written about this movie, weird thinkpieces, oral histories, lots of things to consume, many might be better than the film itself. Or not, who knows?! Probably a lot less than if it was for another movie. Force Awakens was supposed to have a fully detailed making-of book about its conception and development and filming, but even the issues with that meant it got shelved by Lucasfilm. There's no way they'll let anything come out about the development of something that's an even bigger mess like this, especially since it would reflect badly on the brand.
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The integrity of a brand with Star Wars of all things' merchandising and EU needs to be preserved at all costs.
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Kevin Powell, a music journalist, is suing the producers of All Eyez on Me. Saying that they stole extensively from interviews he conducted with Shakur back in the day without crediting or compensating him.
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Neo Rasa posted:The integrity of a brand with Star Wars of all things' merchandising and EU needs to be preserved at all costs. Lucasfilm has spent the last 20 years relentlessly promoting the idea that the prequels are actually great and Jar Jar is actually a beloved character so I don't think it's incongruent to assume they wouldn't want to talk about a development of a movie whose main message would be "Boy, we really hosed up badly."
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Beachcomber posted:What I don't understand is that Lord and Miller have basically always delivered financially successful work, while Kennedy has produced some real failures. I guess Disney couldn't afford to alienate Kennedy and Kasdan? This is going to be one of those film what-ifs unless Han Solo Origins is a completely perfect movie. I'm almost certain it's going to be because L&M has jokes that are meta, break the 4th wall, or poo poo on the franchise itself. Star Wars is allowed to be goofy, but has to take itself seriously, and never self aware. Especially to nerds that have been helming it from the very beginning.
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The last line of the Cannon Films documentary had me laughing for like 15 minutes straight, it's just so goddamn amazing. Just remembering it gives me the chuckles.
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Thundercracker posted:I'm almost certain it's going to be because L&M has jokes that are meta, break the 4th wall, or poo poo on the franchise itself. It might be that. I also read an article that said they were encouraging the actors to improvise, and that it was changing the story somewhat. No idea if this site is reputable.
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I just remembered Donald Glover is in the film and now I'm hella mad at Kennedy for denying us some Glover improvs
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Chairman Capone posted:Lucasfilm has spent the last 20 years relentlessly promoting the idea that the prequels are actually great and Jar Jar is actually a beloved character Unlike all those other movie studios who are always telling people that their movies suck and their characters are terrible.
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The MSJ posted:Apparently the reason Van Damme was fired from playing the Predator (in the movie Predator) is that he wanted the Predator to kickbox: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/predator-oral-history-arnold-schwarzenegger-film-1014132 I just read an interview with Shane Black talking about the reason his role was cut down and why he dies in the first 7 minutes of Predator. Apparently they cast him with the ulterior motive of having him doctor the script a little and when he refused because they only hired to act he got axed.
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For Golan Globus Ninja movies you really really need to see 9 Deaths of the Ninja with Sho Kosugi playing a goofy ninja named Spike Shinobi. It's up there with Chuck Norris's Firewalker (also a Cannon film) for what the gently caress kind of action movie did I just see? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faW5L_3OkwA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3_4en0N9oU
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Transformers 5 is looking at just around a $50 million opening weekend which would be a 50% drop compared to Transformers 4. And less than what Transformers 2 made on its opening day. Paramount has gotta be praying for the Chinese to save this thing.
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China is going to make about $300 million on it, I read earlier today.
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Al Borland Corp. posted:China is going to make about $300 million on it, I read earlier today. They need to hope for more than that since that's what Transformers 4 made over there. Gotta make up the 125mil decrease in the domestic take somewhere else.
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Still disappointing for Transformers. They'll still make a 6th and Bay will be back though it's not necessary but I want it.
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The only reason Transformers does so well in China is because it was one of the first western cartoon series allowed in China back in the 80s when it was economically liberalizing. Transformers and transforner toys were kids first taste of western capitalism. Anyway, my point is that nostalgia train is gonna run dry sooner or later. Unless they make the next Transformers movie a Journey to the West crossover or something. Then they'll make a giillion dollars.
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Beast Wars: Transformers 6 This summer, Truck is Monkey.
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SomeJazzyRat posted:Beast Wars: Transformers 6 Optimus Primate
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The Beast Machines storyline would probably be more fitting, seeing as how Beast Wars was more about time travel and poo poo like that, whereas BM had the whole "metal vs. organic" theme going and Primal and his crew basically became eco-terrorists in response to Megatron's industrialized despotism.
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ruddiger posted:The Beast Machines storyline would probably be more fitting, seeing as how Beast Wars was more about time travel and poo poo like that, whereas BM had the whole "metal vs. organic" theme going and Primal and his crew basically became eco-terrorists in response to Megatron's industrialized despotism. And then FOX news leads a crusade against it because Megatron just wants to Make Cybertron Great Again. Also I just checked to remind myself... the first Bayformers film came out 10 years ago. The Nostalgia well is pretty much drained on this iteration.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqmbe7EjcWc In The Assignment. Michelle Rodriguez plays "Frank," a victim of a nonconsensual gender reassignment surgery performed by Sigourney Weaver. She sets out for revenge against the gangsters who double crossed her. I'm not making this up. http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/la-ca-mn-sunday-conversation-walter-hill-20170331-story.html quote:“The Assignment,” which opens Friday, is perhaps his most audacious production yet. A pulpy comic-book thriller about a rogue surgeon (Sigourney Weaver) who performs a vengeful gender reassignment operation on a hit man named Frank Kitchen (Michelle Rodriguez), it’s somehow also Hill’s first film with women in the lead roles. Whaaatt Taintrunner fucked around with this message at 00:40 on Jun 24, 2017 |
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FilthyImp posted:Also I just checked to remind myself... the first Bayformers film came out 10 years ago. The Nostalgia well is pretty much drained on this iteration.
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SomeJazzyRat posted:Beast Wars: Transformers 6 I hate you for making me remember that (TRUKK NOT MUNKY, not Beast Wars, Beast Wars owned) Thundercracker posted:Optimus Primate that's Optimus Primal, tyvm Taintrunner posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqmbe7EjcWc this movie looks absolutely loving bonkers and I'm actually kinda hype
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I saw The Assignment a month or so ago. Tony Shalhoub, Sigourney Weaver, and Michelle Rodriguez are in it and it is a weird loving movie. I'm still not sure if I liked it.
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Taintrunner posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqmbe7EjcWc Owns owns owns lol
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SomeJazzyRat posted:Beast Wars: Transformers 6 Yes. I also still want planet sized Unicron and Primus with Prime somehow taking both of their faces. The Cube is life giving, the Staff calls forth death, and the Matrix resurrects. I wonder if the Knights are akin to the Primes and the Fallen
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:this movie looks absolutely loving bonkers and I'm actually kinda hype It's directed by a dude with absolutely zero understanding of the problems trans people face and it absolutely revels in this while pretending to be doing trans people a favor  Also here's Michelle Rodriguez in prosthetics, fake nose and beard and all
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Taintrunner posted:It's directed by a dude with absolutely zero understanding of the problems trans people face i mean, you say this, but he just kind of casually drops in that interview that he feels like we live in a gender-fluid society and that that should be obvious to everybody it's got me curious, to say the least
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Taintrunner posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqmbe7EjcWc The action remake of The Skin I Live In.
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Hasn't that movie been posted in here like 5 times now since it keeps getting pushed back?
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Peanut President posted:Hasn't that movie been posted in here like 5 times now since it keeps getting pushed back? Yeah, it's gone through several name changes too
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Taintrunner posted:It's directed by a dude with absolutely zero understanding of the problems trans people face and it absolutely revels in this while pretending to be doing trans people a favor In what would is that not a rad image? Equaling gender to makeup is pretty powerful as a symbol.
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Masculine Rodriguez looks like someone who would have a beef with John Wick.
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Taintrunner posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqmbe7EjcWc Walter Hill owns, I'm looking forward to this.
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Neo Rasa posted:Oh also besides all of this schlock and goofy dogshit Cannon is also responsible for Runaway Train which is a legit really good movie and began life as a Kurosawa film. Don't forget Barfly. Written by Charles Bukowski and starring Mickey Rourke and Faye Dunaway. Real good stuff.
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Peanut President posted:Hasn't that movie been posted in here like 5 times now since it keeps getting pushed back? IIRC The Assignment actually did get very very very quietly and limitedly released in March. What were all the titles it had? I know: Tomboy Tomboy: A TALE OF REVENGE (re)Assignment The Assignment Any others? Speaking of movies like this that got a quiet release, I forget what was the name of the one where Antonio Banderas plays a cosmetic surgeon who kidnaps the guy that sexually assaulted his daughter, forcibly transitions them and then sexually assaults them?
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Neo Rasa posted:Speaking of movies like this that got a quiet release, I forget what was the name of the one where Antonio Banderas plays a cosmetic surgeon who kidnaps the guy that sexually assaulted his daughter, forcibly transitions them and then sexually assaults them? That's The Skin I live in.
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Guy Mann posted:I think it was also slightly overshadowed by The Book of Henry coming out, being a batshit insane mess, and then people remembering that the guy who made it is the guy who is helming Episode 9. People keep talking about how insane Book Of Henry is. I've seen the trailer, but has anyone who has seen the movie actually posted a detailed breakdown? I'd be interested in reading that.
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