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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-
lol international calls to the UK are not being screened and blocked, unless I've been exempted from it on account of being extremely good.

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Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Blocking withheld international calls would bring things to a screeching halt anyway since loads of carriers are incapable of preserving the CLI for some reason.

Kokoro Wish
Jul 23, 2007

Post? What post? Oh wow.
I had nothing to do with THAT.

jabby posted:

Watson never outright attacked Corbyn in the media like some politicians, but he was absolutely on the opposing side. He essentially did nothing to help or support Corbyn while in shadow cabinet, then when the coup happened he adopted the line that sadly Corbyn had to go since he didn't have the support of MPs. He has always used his position on the NEC to vote for stuff that is bad for Corbyn, like blocking new members from voting, and he's widely rumoured to have been deeply involved with the Blairites behind the scenes. For example his name always comes up when people talk about who moved the time of a conference call or appointed a special committee or any other gaming of the rules to try and put Corbyn at a disadvantage.

I remember reading reports of him running around the room telling people that they better not vote for Corbyn being able to stand in the leadership election as the incumbent during the last coup attempt.

Cuazl
Mar 19, 2009

goddamnedtwisto posted:

For reference, this is why I don't bother effortposting.

Hey, if it's bullshit I'll be happy. There's enough dystopia nonsense going on already. My folks haven't changed anything about their phone service in years so they were pretty surprised.

The other explanation is that Telstra fed them a very specific lie, which BT's robot voice only seemed to confirm. Which, to be honest, isn't implausible given Telstra's usual sterling standard of customer service.



...I suppose I'd better call them and get them to calm down.

Ugh. Thought I was doing a good thing and now I'm a chain-email fowarder. Is this what getting old is like? Thanks, everyone.


Edit: In fairness though I didn't say everyone was being blocked. That would be crazy. Only unlisted private numbers, i.e. not business numbers or most people's numbers.

Cuazl fucked around with this message at 12:47 on Jun 24, 2017

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Cuazl posted:

Hey, if it's bullshit I'll be happy. There's enough dystopia nonsense going on already. My folks haven't changed anything about their phone service in years so they were pretty surprised.

The other explanation is that Telstra fed them a very specific lie, which BT's robot voice only seemed to confirm. Which, to be honest, isn't implausible given Telstra's usual sterling standard of customer service.



...I suppose I'd better call them and get them to calm down.

Ugh. Thought I was doing a good thing and now I'm a chain-email fowarder. Is this what getting old is like? Thanks, everyone.

It's not impossible that BT have auto activated it for anyone using their enhanced voicemail service. Given enhanced voicemail is one of the things they love sneaking into people's bills without them noticing it's certainly plausible that a big chunk of the UK now has it.

Jippa
Feb 13, 2009
The only good thing bt have done in years is that spam calling filter thing. I used to get so many a day.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Cuazl posted:



Edit: In fairness though I didn't say everyone was being blocked. That would be crazy. Only unlisted private numbers, i.e. not business numbers or most people's numbers.

It only affects those who withhold CLID, whether that's a common or even standard thing in Australia I've no idea.

coffeetable
Feb 5, 2006

TELL ME AGAIN HOW GREAT BRITAIN WOULD BE IF IT WAS RULED BY THE MERCILESS JACKBOOT OF PRINCE CHARLES

YES I DO TALK TO PLANTS ACTUALLY
the real issue here is that you're making a ye olde phone call to your family in australia in the year 2017

coffeetable fucked around with this message at 12:58 on Jun 24, 2017

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
What Cuazl Posted wasn't bullshit, either it's a security thing or somone has hosed up and lets not discount that possibility, but that just fixed the problem my cousin was having.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh

coffeetable posted:

the real issue here is that you're making a ye olde phone call to your family in australia in the year 2017

Lol would you look at this person who does not know how much international mobile phone calls cost from and to Australia.

Kegluneq
Feb 18, 2011

Mr President, the physical reality of Prime Minister Corbyn is beyond your range of apprehension. If you'll just put on these PINKOVISION glasses...

learnincurve posted:

Lol would you look at this person who does not know how much international mobile phone calls cost from and to Australia.

Even olds can work Skype these days...

Tsaedje
May 11, 2007

BRAWNY BUTTONS 4 LYFE

learnincurve posted:

Lol would you look at this person who does not know how much international mobile phone calls cost from and to Australia.

There are countless online audio and video communication services which are free though

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
I am aware of this, if we want to get specific my grandad died four years ago today and half the family are over here and staying at my grandmas who does not understand anything more advanced than the telephone and has no wifi.

Fun family fact: My grandma was 14 when radar was invented.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Like even WhatsApp and Facebook Messenger can do voice calls now

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
I know it's hard to comprehend but imagine a world with no internet, because they have no internet. No wifi, no 3G no 4G, and even if they did my nan does not have a mobile phone. It's been uttily hillarous watching my neck beard cousin approaching a complete mental breakdown as he's forced to interact with actual people.

Australian very olds decided they liked the 1970s so much they decided to stay.,

Cuazl
Mar 19, 2009

coffeetable posted:

the real issue here is that you're making a ye olde phone call to your family in australia in the year 2017

Hah, it's better than that. It's me calling my parents, who are calling their aged parents back in the UK. Getting that lot on Discord would be quite a challenge. My parents do actually both own smartphones, as of last year, but they always leave them on the table when they go out. My granddad discovered e-mail a few years ago, but doesn't quite understand why his computer keeps getting slow. One grandmother thinks that the internet is a sign of the end times, and the other takes her Kindle everywhere. She sends us e-cards on birthdays.

Despite this my dad runs an internet business. One that requires a lot of calls to the UK, as it happens, hence his consternation. Old dogs can learn new tricks, just not very quickly.

I'd wonder what kind of future technology I'll one day struggle with, but my cellphone still has buttons. And I just spent ten minutes looking for a specific smilie and still couldn't find it.

E: I found it! It was on the first line :allears:

Cuazl fucked around with this message at 13:38 on Jun 24, 2017

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Imagine, if you will, having to choose between making a mobile call to England or purchasing an efficient lightbulb....

coffeetable
Feb 5, 2006

TELL ME AGAIN HOW GREAT BRITAIN WOULD BE IF IT WAS RULED BY THE MERCILESS JACKBOOT OF PRINCE CHARLES

YES I DO TALK TO PLANTS ACTUALLY
facebook messenger is pretty great for techphobic olds. press button, your child magically appears

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

coffeetable posted:

facebook messenger is pretty great for techphobic olds. press button, your child magically appears
But enough about the paedophile information exchange

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Namtab posted:

Imagine, if you will, having to choose between making a mobile call to England or purchasing an efficient lightbulb....

I see what you did there, Namtab, pretty cheeky.

But I'll allow it

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe
https://twitter.com/stephenjadler/status/878590179174490113

Spoiler alert: Capitalism :ussr:

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends

communism bitch posted:

But enough about the paedophile information exchange

:discourse:

ukle
Nov 28, 2005

Kegluneq posted:

Even olds can work Skype these days...

Never mind Skype, proper VOIP providers charge a fraction of the cost that BT, etc do. Its absurd the prices that both mobile and fixed line operators can get away with. While you can get a good SIP line including phone number for £2.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


I set up our VoIP system at work to replace the UK 0844 number for Powwownow with the US number. Works out to be 1.5p per minute vs 13p, people get into the same conference but the prompts are read out with a US accent.

SIP providers are dirt cheap and it's good.

Saint Isaias Boner
Jan 17, 2007

hi how are you


learnincurve posted:

I know it's hard to comprehend but imagine a world with no internet, because they have no internet. No wifi, no 3G no 4G, and even if they did my nan does not have a mobile phone. It's been uttily hillarous watching my neck beard cousin approaching a complete mental breakdown as he's forced to interact with actual people.

Australian very olds decided they liked the 1970s so much they decided to stay.,

my grandfather (an australian old) can no longer work any technology any newer than whatever was around when he was a young adult because getting old hosed with his short term memory. so no Skype, mobiles or any of that poo poo for him. I imagine if any of us make it to senility our grandchildren will be mocking us for forgetting how to use the nanite inhalers for telepathic consciousness interfacing or whatever bullshit they make up between now and then.

Jippa
Feb 13, 2009
Pffff phones? What is this the 1950's?

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Do none of you people have parents in their 60s? Jesus Christ, yeah, olds still use phones, and don't want to use whatever the latest social networking site is. Most 60 somethings aren't desperate to learn how to use Skype & if you start talking about VoIP their eyes will glaze over. Now my mum did when my sister spent a year in Chile and couldn't afford to make international calls, but she's already forgotten. She also has no interest in owning a mobile, can't see the point of Facebook, and almost certainly has never heard of Whatsapp. Which isn't to say she's a luddite, she uses Spotify to find new music, and is a regular email user and often helps the (much younger) teachers at the school she works at with (very) minor computer problems, it's just if she doesn't need to use new technology then what's the point?

Phones, traditional landlines, are great from that view. They've been around for loving ages, they are simple to use, rarely break, it's nice, familiar & simple.

Acaila
Jan 2, 2011



My mum is 64, uses a mobile, Facebook and Skype. All of my aunts and uncles of the same generation are the same. There's a difference between 60s and 80s!

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
I have a landline

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends
My 65 year old mum last week asked me how to send a text on her new smartphone. It's not like she can't send texts, because she can, but it's just a sack of poo poo Windows phone and the interface isn't exactly intuitive with icons to tell you how to send one

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

Jose posted:

I have a landline

hosed up if true

Helith
Nov 5, 2009

Basket of Adorables


Yeah my parents back in the UK, who are in their late 70s, don't have a computer, tablet or smartphone. If I want to contact them from Australia I have to call their landline, or write them a letter and post it to them. The only time we Skype is when they are visiting my sister and they look very bemused by the whole thing even after a few goes at it. They do not understand the concept of wifi at all, it's like trying to explain what colours look like to a blind person.
I'll have to give them a call soon to see if it connects now.

a neurotic ai
Mar 22, 2012
Corbo-report: has just driven through the festival site, everybody pretty much dropping what they are doing to say hello.

E: the atmosphere here is exceptionally pro-corbyn, I think he is really going to kill it at 4.00.

a neurotic ai fucked around with this message at 14:34 on Jun 24, 2017

hookerbot 5000
Dec 21, 2009
My mum is 69, uses an iphone, ipad, laptop etc and is very happy to use online communication tools and things like shared photo storage for the family. My father in law is 64 and hates all kinds of technology. My husband had to drive over to his house one night to scroll down on the web page that my father in law was on and click the link so he could watch a football game (he also phones us at least once a week to get us to check the weather forecast for him even though my husband stuck a link to BBC weather on his laptop). The main difference between them I guess is that mum worked in an office environment whereas my father in law works outside and didn't get immersed in it the same way.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

hookerbot 5000 posted:

My mum is 69, uses an iphone, ipad, laptop etc and is very happy to use online communication tools and things like shared photo storage for the family. My father in law is 64 and hates all kinds of technology. My husband had to drive over to his house one night to scroll down on the web page that my father in law was on and click the link so he could watch a football game (he also phones us at least once a week to get us to check the weather forecast for him even though my husband stuck a link to BBC weather on his laptop). The main difference between them I guess is that mum worked in an office environment whereas my father in law works outside and didn't get immersed in it the same way.

nice

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

hookerbot 5000 posted:

My father in law is 64 and hates all kinds of technology. My husband had to drive over to his house one night to scroll down on the web page that my father in law was on and click the link so he could watch a football game (he also phones us at least once a week to get us to check the weather forecast for him even though my husband stuck a link to BBC weather on his laptop). The main difference between them I guess is that mum worked in an office environment whereas my father in law works outside and didn't get immersed in it the same way.

Man, I really hope this doesn't happen to me when I am an Old and the kids are jacking into/off to the Matrix or whatever. I'm pretty tech savvy but I just can't get my head around the way twitter works, so perhaps I'm already on the downward slope of IT illiteracy

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

Barry Foster posted:

Man, I really hope this doesn't happen to me when I am an Old and the kids are jacking into/off to the Matrix or whatever. I'm pretty tech savvy but I just can't get my head around the way twitter works, so perhaps I'm already on the downward slope of IT illiteracy

by the time we get old we'll be able to live in computers

JOHNSON COCKSLAP
Apr 2, 2017

by Lowtax
my mum and dad are 55/57 and love their tech. :unsmith:

I love my mum and dad.:unsmith:

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Twitter is pretty bad to be fair

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Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe
https://twitter.com/AFP/status/878602360070656004

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