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| Labour |
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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
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Does anyone have any evidence that corbs met veterans yesterday E: there's that one tweet he sent out but it seems the photo wasn't from yesterday Namtab fucked around with this message at 11:10 on Jun 25, 2017 |
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Jun 25, 2017 11:08
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Namtab posted:Does anyone have any evidence that corbs met veterans yesterday
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Jun 25, 2017 11:10
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Thanks Ants posted:Also you can physically feel the music in a way that is not really possible outside of perhaps a studio Which is why everyone should see Sunn O))) live at least once, just to experience it. Anyway, away the coolest thing, live music, to a less cool thing, polls. https://twitter.com/GeorgeAylett/status/878912990959087616
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Jun 25, 2017 11:11
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By poll standards that qualifies as a pretty cool one And the Times too lol
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Jun 25, 2017 11:17
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Thanks Ants posted:Also you can physically feel the music in a way that is not really possible outside of perhaps a studio I went to every Reading bar one between 1996 and 2009, and saw three of my favourite live performances ever in The Prodigy 96, Rage Against The Machine '08 and Limp Bizkit in 2000. Yes, Limp loving Bizkit. The worst was the Red Hot Chili Peppers in 2007, which saw easily 33% to 50% of the crowd gently caress off before they'd done an hour, they were just really, really bad
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Jun 25, 2017 11:18
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The only live concert I really want to see is Queen at Wembley 86 whenever they invent time machines
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Jun 25, 2017 11:20
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Thanks Ants posted:Also you can physically feel the music in a way that is not really possible outside of perhaps a studio I saw Kamasi Washington live last year. He has two drummers in his band and at one point they had a competition going back and forth to see who could out-do the other. It felt like I was getting beaten up but, like, in a good way.
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Jun 25, 2017 11:21
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forkboy84 posted:Which is why everyone should see Sunn O))) live at least once, just to experience it. Plugging those numbers into electoral calculus (and assuming 7% lib dem, 2% ukip / green) gives 320 Labour, 269 Tory, 14 lib dem, 25 SNP. Zac Goldsmith, Anna Soubry, IDS, Amber Rudd, Stephen Crabb and Mhairi Black (!) all lose seats. Obviously some of these are pretty unlikely as swings aren't that uniform but it gives an idea of how quickly the political landscape could shift.
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Jun 25, 2017 11:23
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Party Boat posted:Plugging those numbers into electoral calculus (and assuming 7% lib dem, 2% ukip / green) gives 320 Labour, 269 Tory, 14 lib dem, 25 SNP. Zac Goldsmith, Anna Soubry, IDS, Amber Rudd, Stephen Crabb and Mhairi Black (!) all lose seats . Obviously some of these are pretty unlikely as swings aren't that uniform but it gives an idea of how quickly the political landscape could shift. 
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Jun 25, 2017 11:24
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That'll be something spectacular IDS on the trash heap where he belongs.
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Jun 25, 2017 11:26
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Pochoclo posted:The only live concert I really want to see is Queen at Wembley 86 whenever they invent time machines I knew I liked you, Pochoclo. I have tickets to see them with Adam Lambert in the autumn. Not quite the same. Freddie would have loved the advances in stage lighting, sound and automation technology in the last 20 years 
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Jun 25, 2017 11:28
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I don't really like concerts either. I mean, they are fine but also way down the list of stuff I like to do.
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Jun 25, 2017 11:30
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Bobstar posted:I knew I liked you, Pochoclo. Imagine giving your money to a band who broke the cultural embargo on Apartheid South Africa. Poor show.
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Jun 25, 2017 11:34
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Party Boat posted:Plugging those numbers into electoral calculus (and assuming 7% lib dem, 2% ukip / green) gives 320 Labour, 269 Tory, 14 lib dem, 25 SNP. Zac Goldsmith, Anna Soubry, IDS, Amber Rudd, Stephen Crabb and Mhairi Black (!) all lose seats. Obviously some of these are pretty unlikely as swings aren't that uniform but it gives an idea of how quickly the political landscape could shift. This is based on a proportional swing across the country right? Would be surprised and a bit sad about Mhairi black, but my brother would be glad to be shot of Goldsmith. Rudd will be recounting for the length of the parliament though.
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Jun 25, 2017 11:34
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CoolCab posted:live music (at least, in the large concert/festival form) is a form of communal worship. you get into a huge mob of people who love the same thing you do, and you then collectively get the experience of seeing your idols perform, just for all of you. this causes you collectively to lose your poo poo. also, you're all probably intoxicated somehow. I've been to loads of gigs in my time, and I've always felt incredibly defective, because I've never really experienced this feeling. I'm always extremely aware that I am one person in a big old crowd. Who are on some sort of wavelength that my proverbial antenna just isn't picking up. I do feel a bit sad about it. Perhaps I should start taking drugs (in public) BizarroAzrael posted:This is based on a proportional swing across the country right? Would be surprised and a bit sad about Mhairi black, but my brother would be glad to be shot of Goldsmith. Rudd will be recounting for the length of the parliament though. In this hypothetical situation Labour shouldn't contest her seat purely on her obvious left wing credentials, imo
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Jun 25, 2017 11:39
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Crazy how solid the Tory vote is. Guess there's no place to go realistically if you're a wavering Tory voter who doesn't like Corbyn, though.
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Jun 25, 2017 11:39
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forkboy84 posted:Imagine giving your money to a band who broke the cultural embargo on Apartheid South Africa. Poor show.  Having spent the first six months of this year ill, I'm glad the one thing I was looking forward to later this year now that I'm recovering is also ruined. I'll just be crawling back into my hole of depression now.
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Jun 25, 2017 11:41
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Barry Foster posted:I've been to loads of gigs in my time, and I've always felt incredibly defective, because I've never really experienced this feeling. I'm always extremely aware that I am one person in a big old crowd. Who are on some sort of wavelength that my proverbial antenna just isn't picking up. I do feel a bit sad about it. I sort of felt it, but adding support acts can break it down. I saw Foo Fighters a couple of years ago and saw a few quite heated arguments over the relative merits of the support acts, Royal Blood and Iggy Pop. Suppose it depends on if the main act is big enough to draw people who might not care for the support. I saw Iron Maiden last month, we didn't bother going in until Shinedown had finished, but was surprised to see a few Shinedown shirts in the carpark after, so implicitly they were the main draw to those folk.
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Jun 25, 2017 11:44
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I saw Sigur Ros live and it was fantastic. Live music is cool and good, but I'd recommend them even if you're not into watching bands play because it's a lot more special effects and artsy stuff that you wouldn't get from just sitting at home listening to an album on Spotify. I'm not trusting any polls except for Survation and YouGov until they prove themselves accurate tbh. They overcorrected after 2015 and made pillocks of themselves then and I have no faith they won't do the same again.
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Jun 25, 2017 11:48
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Depends on the gig. Bigger ones are way too expensive to justify going just for a support set. They almost always have a terrible sound setup too. I remember when I saw Iron Maiden in 2008 and poor Avenged Sevenfold got bottled to gently caress.
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Jun 25, 2017 11:49
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BizarroAzrael posted:This is based on a proportional swing across the country right? Would be surprised and a bit sad about Mhairi black, but my brother would be glad to be shot of Goldsmith. Rudd will be recounting for the length of the parliament though. Yeah so it should be treated with caution, especially in Scottish seats. Ten of Labour's pickups in that scenario were from the SNP.
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Jun 25, 2017 11:50
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Party Boat posted:Yeah so it should be treated with caution, especially in Scottish seats. Ten of Labour's pickups in that scenario were from the SNP.
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Jun 25, 2017 11:53
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Goldsmith is on borrowed time whatever happens, Labour will just not bother standing a candidate next time in return for the Lib Dems doing the same somewhere else.
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Jun 25, 2017 11:54
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Barry Foster posted:
Yeah, and would the SNP reciprocate & not stand against the 2 left wing Scottish Labour MPs? Of course they won't, they are too busy calling them Red Tories. It'd never happen.
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Jun 25, 2017 11:57
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BizarroAzrael posted:I sort of felt it, but adding support acts can break it down. I saw Foo Fighters a couple of years ago and saw a few quite heated arguments over the relative merits of the support acts, Royal Blood and Iggy Pop. Suppose it depends on if the main act is big enough to draw people who might not care for the support. gently caress Royal Blood, they think that electronic music isn't 'real music'. And they're loving shite.
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Jun 25, 2017 12:04
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Bobstar posted:
You can still go and enjoy it, you just have to say a dozen Hail Jeremys when you get home to atone for your sin. Jakabite posted:gently caress Royal Blood, they think that electronic music isn't 'real music'. And they're loving shite. It's a stupid opinion but they are entitled to it as much as you are to think they are loving shite. Controversial, but opinions of bands or their individual members does not in fact impact how I enjoy someone's music. It does impact on whether I will buy it or shamelessly  it, but that's a personal choice.
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Jun 25, 2017 12:10
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OwlFancier posted:I am rather skeptical that armed forces day has much to do with post-employment care for ex soldiers as much as it is simply an unthinking celebration of how great it is to murder foreigners. Sure, but Corbyn being there isn't necessarily a betrayal of principles. You'd get the kind of celebration the government of the time thinks is good, in essence, and I'd rather that be that of a pacifist than a jingoist. Though I guess he didn't go anyway so it's moot. Anyway, my perspective is largely that I've had a lot of family in the armed forces; my grandpops was in the RAF and my grandmother's siblings were in WW1 and 2. A large part of the people at the pub here are also ex-armed-forces. They do have semi-unique needs; gulf war syndrome is unique to veterans who fought in that conflict, and there are more obvious issues like mental health and social issues that follow being ex-services. If anything this demands strongly fighting against jingoists who want to give us US-style military worship that alienates and isolates those people. thorsilver posted:Finally got round to watching Corbs speaking at Glastonbury, and... drat. I had no idea I'd get so choked up when Jam-Master J said 'another world is possible'. Made me realise how dark my outlook has become since Brexit and Trump. Seeing someone sincere and passionate in front of such a gloriously huge and hopeful crowd tell us that things don't have to be this way was really powerful for me. Same 
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Julio Cruz posted:Goldsmith is on borrowed time whatever happens, Labour will just not bother standing a candidate next time in return for the Lib Dems doing the same somewhere else. Trading Richmond Park for Putney could see both Zac Goldsmith and Justine Greening ousted
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Jun 25, 2017 12:11
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Jakabite posted:gently caress Royal Blood, they think that electronic music isn't 'real music'. And they're loving shite. Royal Blood are good but so is electronic music. I guess the truth is somewhere in the middle.
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Jun 25, 2017 12:15
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forkboy84 posted:You can still go and enjoy it, you just have to say a dozen Hail Jeremys when you get home to atone for your sin. You're a good lad fork boy  Sorry, bit of an overreaction, but I think we've all discovered that someone whose creative output we like was in fact history's greatest monster. And I'm feeling a bit delicate at the moment.
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Jun 25, 2017 12:19
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jBrereton posted:Oh no. Yeah well I've got bad news for you mate Stoke-on-Trent South Staffordshire LAB gain from CON : Jack Brereton
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Jun 25, 2017 12:22
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Tortuga posted:The crowd at Ascot is more working class than the crowd at Glastonbury. Ascot is a fuckload cheaper to go to than Glasto. I went and didn't watch the horseracing, just got sideways at the coincidental real ale fest that was going on there 
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Jun 25, 2017 12:23
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i have had much better experiences with small gigs where the audience is at most a few hundred people. single best one so far was the oh hellos at bush hall, which was v similar to this: https://youtu.be/qHU0xigLx5s?t=7m15s (bush hall is a great venue for these small acts. def check it out if you live in london)
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Jun 25, 2017 12:32
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RIP Hammersmith Palais
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Jun 25, 2017 12:34
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Party Boat posted:Yeah well I've got bad news for you mate
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Jun 25, 2017 12:41
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I wonder if pollsters have adjusted their sampling weights according to the 2017 result yet. I would be really surprised if they have since turnout polls have only come out very recently. The 46Lab / 41 Tory poll is a Panelbase poll, and Panelbase's last poll before the election was 44 Tory / 36 Lab...
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Jun 25, 2017 12:42
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Borrovan posted:I was looking for some, since it's Sunday morning and I've got nothing better to do than troll comments sections with a dose of reality. Regrettably, it looks like it didn't happen. The photo he tweeted was from Remembrance Day 2015. Oh. Guess we were misinformed on that.
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Jun 25, 2017 12:45
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mhairi black kind of looks like a girl i dated, face wise
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jBrereton posted:n-NO! the people have spoken
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