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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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Gum
Mar 9, 2008

oho, a rapist
time to try this puppy out
https://twitter.com/CianMcGar/status/878568235851022337

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Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

always thank the rock hider

We have our new mascot: the Brexit Clown!

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



I_Socom posted:

Mr Adequate - what music do you actually like? It might be that it's just more conducive to being listened to recorded, rather than live. OFC gigs aren't necessarily for everyone, but I don't think I've seen anyone have a bad time at a gig.

I'm not super picky, most of what I listen to is synthwave and electro-pop, but I wouldn't pretend I don't sometimes listen to Lady Gaga, Lana Del Rey, or Carly Rae Jepson. And I loving love CHVRCHES and Bastille too. (The first show I would have seriously considered going to since before the Age of Pigfucker was when my fiancee went to see Bastille a month or two ago, but alas I'm thousands of miles away so the point was moot.)

I will say that I'm probably too quick to rule out live music at like, a jazz club or in a sit-down concert hall or just some local folks playing trad music in the pub, insofar as I wouldn't want to go see those but I can at least comprehend some aspect of the appeal. Your typical gig is utterly and deeply baffling to me though.

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
Jazz is awesome

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe
:corsair: but this was the first gig I ever went to:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfH19Z8auRk

(I'm the one in the crowd with the baggy jeans and centre parting)

e: Didn't notice the thumbnail, i'm not literally in it, it's a joke about how every single person there pretty much had baggy jeans and a centre parting, what with it being 1990

goddamnedtwisto fucked around with this message at 21:54 on Jun 25, 2017

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I'm surprised "jeremy corbyn would like to get rid of nuclear weapons" is still news.

I_Socom
Jul 18, 2007

A great ride that requires finesse and effort to get the best out of it.

Mister Adequate posted:

I'm not super picky, most of what I listen to is synthwave and electro-pop, but I wouldn't pretend I don't sometimes listen to Lady Gaga, Lana Del Rey, or Carly Rae Jepson. And I loving love CHVRCHES and Bastille too. (The first show I would have seriously considered going to since before the Age of Pigfucker was when my fiancee went to see Bastille a month or two ago, but alas I'm thousands of miles away so the point was moot.)

Gaga is pretty good live, but it's definitely more of a "show" than a note-perfect performance of her songs. Probably as manly costume changes as songs, but very good fun and, weirdly, lots of space to dance - last time I saw her was at Wembley so over 50% of the crowd was seated. CHVRCHES were good at Latitude last year too. Thinking about it - have you tried a festival at all? Latitude in particular is not mega crowded, lots of space to dance rather than get squashed in the pit and lots of non-music stuff (comedy, literature, theatre, ...)

Even more OT: Ed loving Sheeran headlining the last night at Glasto. Not even close to the Foos or Radiohead, ugh

Blasmeister
Jan 15, 2012




2Time TRP Sack Race Champion

It'd be news because getting rid of trident isn't labour policy. He really has to be careful to not come off as planning to ignore that stated policy when in power.

StarkingBarfish
Jun 25, 2006

Novus Ordo Seclorum

Pissflaps posted:

It'd take some time to convey just how nauseating and puerile I find this 'absolute boy' shite. And now they're using it to describe Paul loving Mason. Execrable.

Late, but mods please rename him to 'the flapsolute boy' please

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I mean when a politician says "as soon as I can" they generally mean "as soon as I can without getting career endingly savaged over it" which kind of carries implied political acceptability.

thehappyprince
Apr 4, 2006

Alastair Cock

corbyn has the right position on trident anyway so he should fight for it imo

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


I_Socom posted:

Even more OT: Ed loving Sheeran headlining the last night at Glasto. Not even close to the Foos or Radiohead, ugh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WT8Ib7Hd7YI

That or one of the Orbital appearances

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SJqGR5u5LI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRCt-F47IH0

I_Socom
Jul 18, 2007

A great ride that requires finesse and effort to get the best out of it.


That Underworld set has all the feels. Two Months Off and Scribble are both gorgeous tracks.

One of my biggest regrets though is not seeing Orbital live. I think they're headlining Standon Calling this year but I can't make the date :(

E: Halcyon is good but holy poo poo Chime live would be loving incredible.

I_Socom fucked around with this message at 22:09 on Jun 25, 2017

Coohoolin
Aug 5, 2012

Oor Coohoolie.

Marxist-Jezzinist posted:

That or they're cohoolie, belting out flower of Scotland.

Hey, don't go to folk nights if you don't like folk music. I only do flower if it's requested and there's enough drunk people to sing along.

Mr Adequate should try some trad sessions, they're very relaxed and laid back.

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

OwlFancier posted:

I mean when a politician says "as soon as I can" they generally mean "as soon as I can without getting career endingly savaged over it" which kind of carries implied political acceptability.

The press will interpret it as 'as soon as I'm in power' and accuse him of lying to the public. Political support is easy come, easy go, and there are no guarantees his support won't start to erode again now we're out of election mode. It's just very annoying when his allies drop him in it like this.

Looke
Aug 2, 2013

Ed Sheeran is a good lad

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь

StarkingBarfish posted:

Late, but mods please rename him to 'the flapsolute boy' please

Zalakwe
Jun 4, 2007
Likes Cake, Hates Hamsters



Tigey posted:

As a recent convert, and someone who has been critical of his attempts to dance around the nuclear issue in the past, I'm relatively relaxed about this.

Agreed. No-one has got anywhere in UK politics in the last two years by attacking Corbyn.

'We need better housing and a well funded fire service, not nuclear bombs.' There, line sorted.

I also agree he doesn't want to open splits in the party again, but 'when I can' is non committal enough to dodge that.

Zalakwe fucked around with this message at 22:21 on Jun 25, 2017

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends

goddamnedtwisto posted:

:corsair: but this was the first gig I ever went to:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfH19Z8auRk

(I'm the one in the crowd with the baggy jeans and centre parting)

e: Didn't notice the thumbnail, i'm not literally in it, it's a joke about how every single person there pretty much had baggy jeans and a centre parting, what with it being 1990

this wasn't the first gig I went to, but the first really "HOLY gently caress" one I went to. Quality on the video, but it's probably peak Prodigy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPuy0qINPto

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Was that the one where bits of the ceiling started falling off?

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

Zalakwe posted:

No-one has got anywhere in UK politics in the last two years by attacking Corbyn.

He had an approval rating of -42 a few months ago.

I'm all for optimism but the constant attacks on him made him one of the most unpopular politicians in the country. Sure he managed to turn it around during the campaign but we aren't in a campaign any more.

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends

Thanks Ants posted:

Was that the one where bits of the ceiling started falling off?

nah, that was Leftfield and their absurb soundsystem which was deemed illegal in Holland and Belgium

Vlex
Aug 4, 2006
I'd rather be a climbing ape than a big titty angel.



I went to a wedding in Denmark this weekend between an Anglo-German and a Dane raised in Luxembourg, and all the speeches included dunking on Britain for how stupid Brexit is (except for mine because I couldn't work in any good jokes that hadn't already been told by the time I was on).

It was a great night and a great wedding, and as it turned out the groom's brother's in-laws were pro-Leave. They lodged a "formal complaint" against the toastmaster before storming off in a huff at 10:30 while the rest of the European melting pot of guests partied til 4 in the morning. It was glorious.

moselle
Nov 18, 2012

Looke posted:

Ed Sheeran is a good lad

No no no no no

https://twitter.com/SunApology/status/879077026170384384

https://twitter.com/EatMyHalo/status/879080656185286656

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



But he has a Nandos black card.

Irony Be My Shield
Jul 29, 2012

The thing is they already went all-in on attacking Corbyn in the last election, blasting every attack line from every media outlet constantly. Unless something new somehow comes to light all of these attacks are priced-in. Any danger would come from the Tories getting it together, not from the same old tried and failed attack lines against Corbyn.

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

What an absolute boy.

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:

jabby posted:

He had an approval rating of -42 a few months ago.

I'm all for optimism but the constant attacks on him made him one of the most unpopular politicians in the country. Sure he managed to turn it around during the campaign but we aren't in a campaign any more.

For all the doom and gloom of Brexit, imagine if Remain had won, and the situation we'd be in right now in comparison - Cameron still PM, no election in sight, another leadership contest lurking.

Benjamin Arthur
Nov 7, 2012

StarkingBarfish posted:

Late, but mods please rename him to 'the flapsolute boy' please

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

HJB posted:

For all the doom and gloom of Brexit, imagine if Remain had won, and the situation we'd be in right now in comparison - Cameron still PM, no election in sight, another leadership contest lurking.
Imagine if Remain had won by 51.9%

Photos of stacks of alleged uncounted Leave votes, allegations of voter fraud from EUs voting 20 times, maps showing massive swathes of the country Leave on the front of every tabloid, more UKIP MPs down the road, probably a bigger increase in hate crimes and violence than what we got.

Zalakwe
Jun 4, 2007
Likes Cake, Hates Hamsters



jabby posted:

He had an approval rating of -42 a few months ago.

I'm all for optimism but the constant attacks on him made him one of the most unpopular politicians in the country. Sure he managed to turn it around during the campaign but we aren't in a campaign any more.

Yeah fair enough, but I do think attacking him carries a lot of risk. The Tories credibility is shot while detractors within the party are wary of his supporters, are benefiting from his popularity, have far fewer allies and no objective in sight. He has good will to burn. The worry is that this is his zenith, I wouldn't bet on it though, Brexit is coming. Maybe a better line would have been no one has got rich betting against him in the last two years.

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь

Pissflaps posted:

What an absolute boy.

You are so salty I could preserve small fish with your juices.

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

JFairfax fucked around with this message at 22:55 on Jun 25, 2017

Deptfordx
Dec 23, 2013

Guavanaut posted:

Imagine if Remain had won by 51.9%

Photos of stacks of alleged uncounted Leave votes, allegations of voter fraud from EUs voting 20 times, maps showing massive swathes of the country Leave on the front of every tabloid, more UKIP MPs down the road, probably a bigger increase in hate crimes and violence than what we got.

On the other hand, it wouldn't have been great, but we wouldn't be watching David Davis cocking his shotgun and about to take Old Yeller our economy behind a tree.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

jabby posted:

He had an approval rating of -42 a few months ago.

I'm all for optimism but the constant attacks on him made him one of the most unpopular politicians in the country. Sure he managed to turn it around during the campaign but we aren't in a campaign any more.

He had a -42 approval rating because media attacks were very effective when no-one really knew what he stood for or had seen him do anything other than react to getting knifed by the rest of the PLP. Now he's much more well-defined in the minds of the general public and they like him a lot more now that they've seen what he wants to achieve and how effective he could be with everyone rallying round him.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Guavanaut posted:

Imagine if Remain had won by 51.9%

Photos of stacks of alleged uncounted Leave votes, allegations of voter fraud from EUs voting 20 times, maps showing massive swathes of the country Leave on the front of every tabloid, more UKIP MPs down the road, probably a bigger increase in hate crimes and violence than what we got.

Yeah, but look what happened every single time UKIP crawled far enough out from under the rock to be seriously noticed. It turned out they were a neo-Nazi, or a blatant racist. In the event of a narrow Remain victory there's no doubt they would have gained some political capital, but it would have come in the form of enough rope to hang themselves.

Pencils R Cool
Feb 16, 2011

https://twitter.com/PrototypeCube/status/879098214368120832

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Justice's set was really good

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

Julio Cruz posted:

He had a -42 approval rating because media attacks were very effective when no-one really knew what he stood for or had seen him do anything other than react to getting knifed by the rest of the PLP. Now he's much more well-defined in the minds of the general public and they like him a lot more now that they've seen what he wants to achieve and how effective he could be with everyone rallying round him.

The press didn't take his approval rating down to those depths overnight, they did it through the constant grind of every single line written about him being unrelentingly negative, combined with the refusal to show him in person or report his opinions accurately.

We're going back to that now. We get a brief period where his sheer popularity is a story in itself, like with Glastonbury, and then it's day after day smears and lies and misrepresentation. Complacency now is a massive threat, which is what makes it all the more galling when an ally proudly brings up Trident of all loving things.

EDIT: In order to not be unrelentingly negative myself, let's just bask in how awesomely Jezza has reversed public opinion:
https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/879100890631872512

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JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
Glastonbury and eavis have a long history with CND this is not shocking or a big deal

Corbyns position on trident simply is not a big deal, don't freak out about it

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