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Zetsubou-san posted:cross-posting because i made a thing lmbo
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Jun 24, 2017 05:11
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Isn't a genderswapped version of a character costume called crossplay?
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Jun 24, 2017 06:35
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Doesn't matter - i call it "good"
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Jun 24, 2017 07:40
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A powerful Lucoa
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Jun 24, 2017 09:10
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Zeruel posted:Holy poo poo that was hilarious to read. She must have the same brain problem I have of latching onto the body positivity theme and not really considering that it wasn't so obvious to most people
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Jun 24, 2017 22:43
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Even then it comes off as insincere, because it's "hey everyone be proud of who you are and what you wear, no matter what you wear or who you are! Unless who you are is someone who likes going to maid cafes." I mean, I get that cringey feeling too when thinking about going to a place like that, but that's probably not uncommon for people who used to be bullied nerds who withdrew to protect themselves. I don't see why she has to go to such lengths to justify herself.
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Jun 24, 2017 23:43
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:She must have the same brain problem I have of latching onto the body positivity theme and not really considering that it wasn't so obvious to most people I think KLK was trying to have its cake and eat it too in that regard. It definitely wants to say something about being yourself and not caring how other people judge you, plus Imaishi has used nudity as a metaphor for positive traits like conviction in his works before. But those themes and metaphors also conveniently means we get to have tons of anime titties on screen.
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Jun 24, 2017 23:56
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Yeah it's really male gaze. That being where the money is probably factored into that as much as anything else. Not to make excuses
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Jun 25, 2017 18:09
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Well, that and CK loves ecchi stuff, so that's what he draws.
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Jun 25, 2017 18:32
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1. The Steam sale is going on and it applies to anime. 2. http://store.steampowered.com/app/640570/Miss_Kobayashis_Dragon_Maid/
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Jun 25, 2017 18:42
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Poil posted:1. The Steam sale is going on and it applies to anime. ...the gently caress??
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Jun 25, 2017 18:47
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Schwarzwald posted:...the gently caress?? Steam sells videos, including anime, now. If you want to pay for something you can watch on Crunchyroll for free you can now do so at half off! 
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Jun 25, 2017 18:53
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:Yeah it's really male gaze. That being where the money is probably factored into that as much as anything else. Not to make excuses I guess at least they tried to do something interesting thematically with it, even if it ended up half-assed. KLK had a rocky production IIRC, so it could be there were plans to do more with it down the road and they got lost or cut in re-writes. I doubt it was purely for money though. I do like KLK at the end of the day, but the idea that someone can look past its worst moments but not Dragon Maid's is bonkers.
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Jun 25, 2017 18:57
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yo some people like big boobs, some like underboob, who cares let them be
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Jun 25, 2017 19:29
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hoobajoo posted:I guess at least they tried to do something interesting thematically with it, even if it ended up half-assed. KLK had a rocky production IIRC, so it could be there were plans to do more with it down the road and they got lost or cut in re-writes. I doubt it was purely for money though. I mean, there's definitely a double standard some people have where subtext-heavy stuff gets off lighter than anything which puts it into text.
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Jun 25, 2017 19:30
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To be clear, which of the two v. boob intensive anime is meant to be the one with subtext here? KLK probably has fewer lines of dialogue dedicated to 'big boobs lol' but subtlety is not what comes to mind.
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Jun 25, 2017 23:14
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Rangpur posted:To be clear, which of the two v. boob intensive anime is meant to be the one with subtext here? KLK probably has fewer lines of dialogue dedicated to 'big boobs lol' but subtlety is not what comes to mind. Actually, I'm talking about gay subtext, which in my experience is why a lot of people like the author of that article will defend KLK or engage in apologetics for it.
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Jun 25, 2017 23:53
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That makes sense. I'm mostly curious why that wouldn't extend to the show about two women who rent an apartment together to raise their adopted daughter? I mean I liked both so I don't really have an axe to grind here. It just took me off guard.
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Jun 26, 2017 00:54
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Rangpur posted:That makes sense. I'm mostly curious why that wouldn't extend to the show about two women who rent an apartment together to raise their adopted daughter? I mean I liked both so I don't really have an axe to grind here. It just took me off guard. I mean, there's a real phenomenon outside of anime fandom where people will take more-or-less explicitly gay content and treat it much more harshly than subtextual gay content. For example, after Ellen came out on her show, there was a lot of criticism from lesbian and bi woman commenters about how it felt a lot worse now. So I think a lot of Dragon Maid criticism definitely falls under that effect.
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Jun 26, 2017 00:56
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Rangpur posted:That makes sense. I'm mostly curious why that wouldn't extend to the show about two women who rent an apartment together to raise their adopted daughter? I mean I liked both so I don't really have an axe to grind here. It just took me off guard. And not just that but a finale that is entirely about how important Tohru is to Kobayashi considering the show didn't go the route of all fantastical elements leaving with Tohru. Kobayashi still had her human and dragon friends and the very good daughter she was struggling to raise, so it was about Tohru rather than going back to square one being unfulfilling like similar things tends to do for their finale.
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Jun 26, 2017 00:59
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Gay subtext in KlK didn't really spring to mind for me, nor was it at the forefront of my thoughts for Maidoragon. Probably because of all the "I'm your loyal sex slave" poo poo they kept pulling. Not to say the last episode didn't rectify that. That poo poo was genuinely heart-rending.
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Jun 26, 2017 01:57
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Rangpur posted:That makes sense. I'm mostly curious why that wouldn't extend to the show about two women who rent an apartment together to raise their adopted daughter? I mean I liked both so I don't really have an axe to grind here. It just took me off guard. is this an actual show? if so, what's the name of it?
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Jun 26, 2017 04:46
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el dorito posted:is this an actual show? Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid
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Jun 26, 2017 04:50
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Well only one of them rents the apartment, the other doesn't have a paying job.
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Jun 26, 2017 04:51
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Guy Goodbody posted:Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid I had to reread the past dozen or so posts and I'm surprised that we're still talking about that terrible kotaku article
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Jun 26, 2017 04:56
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Well to be fair the amount of work she does for free is astounding. Only asking to be sheltered and fed. ... I guess Kobayashi rakes it in hand over fist to be feeding 3 mouths, 2 of which are dragons.
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Jun 26, 2017 10:17
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Zeruel posted:Well to be fair the amount of work she does for free is astounding. Only asking to be sheltered and fed. Well Tohru doesn't exactly ask to be fed either considering she does all the cooking and everything. Tohru also regularly dimension hops to get food herself. Which has gotta help the food budget.
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Jun 26, 2017 10:36
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All things considered, I'll bet the electricity bill is a bigger issue than their groceries.
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Jun 26, 2017 11:35
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Zeruel posted:Well to be fair the amount of work she does for free is astounding. Only asking to be sheltered and fed. She's a programmer that routinely does massive overtime, plus Tokyo is relatively affordable for a major city. Her living situation's pretty reasonable. edit: I just realized, we live in times where "raking it in" means "modestly supporting a family of 3". That's dire. hoobajoo fucked around with this message at 19:46 on Jun 26, 2017 |
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Jun 26, 2017 19:26
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hoobajoo posted:She's a programmer that routinely does massive overtime, plus Tokyo is relatively affordable for a major city. Her living situation's pretty reasonable. To be fair, software development pays relatively well. The second part yeah no times are pretty bad 
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Jun 26, 2017 19:33
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Pollyanna posted:To be fair, software development pays relatively well. The second part yeah no times are pretty bad That was my point, her living situation is pretty realistic because she has a career in software, works her butt off like a proper salaryman, and lives in a (relatively) affordable city. Dragon Maid is often pretty escapist or idealized, but the Kobayashi's financials are very grounded.
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edit: accidental double post
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hoobajoo posted:She's a programmer that routinely does massive overtime, plus Tokyo is relatively affordable for a major city. Her living situation's pretty reasonable. The massive overtime may possibly be unpaid as part of typical Japanese salaryman expectations, but she still probably makes a decent enough living.
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Jun 27, 2017 12:36
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Dragon tail will save her from karoshi
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Jun 27, 2017 12:51
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Cute chorogon wife and daughter will save Kobayashi.
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Jun 27, 2017 13:22
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It's telling that in so many of these "fantastic beings are secretly real" stories, that the actual fantasy is having a loving relationship with another person. Life as a Japanese salary-person must be impossibly miserable.
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Jun 27, 2017 17:05
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Schwarzwald posted:It's telling that in so many of these "fantastic beings are secretly real" stories, that the actual fantasy is having a loving relationship with another person. You realize how many people throughout the world generally long for exactly that, right? I don't think it's something particular to salary-people by any measure.
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Jun 27, 2017 17:44
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I'm a salary man and it's true
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Not really even about a loving relationship, but just not being alone.
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