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| Labour |
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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
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Saint Isaias Boner posted:that was goddamned nerve-wracking I feel awful. Was just watching this on my phone with my fiancée next to me on the sofa, and I was so absorbed I didn't realise she had woken up and was looking at me with stark terror on her face. After I explained it was fake she had me take her pulse. 110bpm.
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Lord of the Llamas posted:What a load of nonsense. Which of these countries initiated and why? Why is this conflict somehow in a vacuum between the aggressor and the UK only? If you are saying some such scenario definitely cannot happen, then it is not immmoral to give orders for retaliation as they will definitely never be read. Small-scale nuclear weapons like Trident either do nothing but deter, or take the world from a scenario where a man successfully used nuclear weapons to one where a dead man failed at his political goals. Neither is immoral; cost-effective is a different matter.
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So I've just finished reading Flat Earth News and Hack Attack (can anyone recommend a replacement for my soon to be cancelled Sky subscription?) and it makes eye opening reading about what a cancer on democracy Rupert Murdoch and News Corp are. Just about to start The Establishment by Owen Jones, are there any similar books out there?
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Jun 27, 2017 00:01
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Camrath posted:I feel awful. Was just watching this on my phone with my fiancée next to me on the sofa, and I was so absorbed I didn't realise she had woken up and was looking at me with stark terror on her face. lol you Orson Wellsed her rear end!!
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Jun 27, 2017 00:01
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WeAreTheRomans posted:Cars should come with preventative measures that ensure the death of people in the other car if they crash into you. I mean, there's those new citroen C4s with the weird black plastic panels on the side, I didn't realise they were ERA blocks. In the event of a side collision you'll still die but the other vehicle and probably the one behind them will be vaporised. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 00:11 on Jun 27, 2017 |
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Jun 27, 2017 00:07
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radmonger posted:If you are saying some such scenario definitely cannot happen, then it is not immmoral to give orders for retaliation as they will definitely never be read. Yes, I view Trident as utterly pointless and can't fathom any orders you could give in the letters of last resort that aren't either immoral or irrelevant. Of course if you assume there's even an infinitesimal chance of the letter being opened then you should not consider it an amoral document. Back in reality though; It's a waste of resources, and has a political, ethical, and moral cost for sending out the wrong message to our own population and the rest of the world.
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Jun 27, 2017 00:11
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Skinty McEdger posted:Of course your friends will only do so upon the discovery that radio 4 has gone off the air. I couldn't live in a world without radio 4.
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Jun 27, 2017 00:12
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radmonger posted:If you are saying some such scenario definitely cannot happen, then it is not immmoral to give orders for retaliation as they will definitely never be read. I hate to point this out to you but if someone nuked a place, they have successfully use nuclear weapons. Any ensuing retaliatory strikes do not make that use of nuclear weapons less successful but they do add even more successful uses of nuclear weapons to the pile. I don't know what ethical calculus you're using where one place being nuked is worse than multiple places getting nuked but I think there might be something wrong with it. You appear to literally be arguing that the worst thing about someone using nuclear weapons is that the people who live in the country that used them might not die in the process.
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Brendan Rodgers posted:Yeah everyone with a hardon for nukes needs to be forced to watch this BBC test run of their nuclear warning, or at least the last 10 minutes. Lord Buckethead had the right idea. first I was  and by the end I was 
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Jun 27, 2017 00:14
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sebzilla posted:Ugh why did I watch that nuclear broadcast before bed? Couple of weeks ago I ended up having a talk with friends that ended up on the end of the world & I ended up Googling bomb shelters/insane underground bunkers. How about a bunker with room for 50 people, a really large greenhouse, a swimming pool, a bowling alley, a cinema & a Batcave style hidden tunnel for your cars to go in & out? I also came to the conclusion that in the case the world didn't end in a rain of nuclear missiles, it'd be a great chance for me to catch up on the book backlog I've built up. Anyway, it's a fun road to go down. Though I'm not sure about how safe these builds actually are as far as avoiding radiation, didn't look like it would be lined with lead.
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Jun 27, 2017 00:21
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I live about 1/3 of a mile from HMNB Portsmouth, so there's no way I'd survive if Putin gets a hard-on for a nuke strike
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Jun 27, 2017 00:22
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forkboy84 posted:Couple of weeks ago I ended up having a talk with friends that ended up on the end of the world & I ended up Googling bomb shelters/insane underground bunkers. How about a bunker with room for 50 people, a really large greenhouse, a swimming pool, a bowling alley, a cinema & a Batcave style hidden tunnel for your cars to go in & out? I also came to the conclusion that in the case the world didn't end in a rain of nuclear missiles, it'd be a great chance for me to catch up on the book backlog I've built up. Good news! With modern nuclear weapons, none of those shelters will actually survive being in the blast zone and death is certain.
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Jun 27, 2017 00:24
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forkboy84 posted:Couple of weeks ago I ended up having a talk with friends that ended up on the end of the world & I ended up Googling bomb shelters/insane underground bunkers. How about a bunker with room for 50 people, a really large greenhouse, a swimming pool, a bowling alley, a cinema & a Batcave style hidden tunnel for your cars to go in & out? I also came to the conclusion that in the case the world didn't end in a rain of nuclear missiles, it'd be a great chance for me to catch up on the book backlog I've built up. Deep enough and covered in thick enough concrete is good enough.
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Jun 27, 2017 00:25
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I want to be vaporised in a nuclear attack rather than being left to fight people for food under a darkened sky.
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Jun 27, 2017 00:27
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ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:I live about 1/3 of a mile from HMNB Portsmouth, so there's no way I'd survive if Putin gets a hard-on for a nuke strike I live well within the blast radius for strikes on RAF Waddington and RAF Cranwell, so I'm getting double annihilated.
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Jun 27, 2017 00:28
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I have a tiny cellar that a few people could just about lie down in. Ten days down there might be worse than dying in the blast.
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Jun 27, 2017 00:28
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Night10194 posted:Good news! With modern nuclear weapons, none of those shelters will actually survive being in the blast zone and death is certain. Ya it owns. The overpressure wave will kill you anyway if you are at ground zero and even if you are a bit further away you need to have a pretty loving sophisticated shelter with blast valves for it to not be a very expensive oven for you and your family then if you do survive, you have to get out of an irradiated hellscape though the more efficient bombs are not so bad on the fallout. really the best option is to open your arms to the incandescent nuclear fire and be reduced to ash instantly
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Jun 27, 2017 00:29
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OwlFancier posted:You appear to literally be arguing that the worst thing about someone using nuclear weapons is that the people who live in the country that used them might not die in the process. In which case, you definitely don't understand the argument being made. Maybe that doesn't worry you? It would me. Imagine Threads, except you have just enough time to think 'that political movement I was part of? I guess we got this issue wrong'.
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Jun 27, 2017 00:36
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radmonger posted:In which case, you definitely don't understand the argument being made. What on earth are are you talking about?
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Jun 27, 2017 00:39
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Pretty sure 'Trident actually works as a deterrent! When the bombs drop you're all going to look like idiots!' Which lol.
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Jun 27, 2017 00:41
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I think it's perhaps unsurprising the guy called radmonger has an uncanny desire for more radiation in the world tbh
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Jun 27, 2017 00:45
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spectralent posted:I think it's perhaps unsurprising the guy called radmonger has an uncanny desire for more radiation in the world tbh He's gonna hoard every rad in the wasteland
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Jun 27, 2017 00:47
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Fans posted:Any situation in which Russia goes insane and starts nuking people invalidates MAD because if they've gone crazy why would they even care about MAD? The point of MAD is to stop them doing it for rational reasons.
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Jun 27, 2017 00:48
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hakimashou posted:The point of MAD is to stop them doing it for rational reasons. Any rational person knows that MAD only exists between the USA and Russia.
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Jun 27, 2017 00:50
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I mean one of the most likely outcomes of the situation that Radmonger describes wouldn't be a retaliatory strike, but Australia becoming a nuclear power.
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Jun 27, 2017 00:51
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Skinty McEdger posted:I mean one of the most likely outcomes of the situation that Radmonger describes wouldn't be a retaliatory strike, but Australia becoming a nuclear power. jfc kill me now.
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Jun 27, 2017 00:54
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https://twitter.com/George_Osborne/status/879324865983131650 Gideon is loving this
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Jun 27, 2017 00:54
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Osborne versus May is one of those conflicts where you desperately hope both sides will end up getting destroyed.
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Julio Cruz posted:Osborne versus May is one of those conflicts where you desperately hope both sides will end up getting destroyed. Speaking of MAD....
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Marxist-Jezzinist posted:ACAB. Yeah gently caress animals for following their natures
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Lord of the Llamas posted:Speaking of MAD.... Them both being on a deserted island with no-one else within a hundred miles is the only time I'd find the use of Trident acceptable.
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Jun 27, 2017 01:10
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Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:Yeah gently caress animals for following their natures if they're pets then yeah
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Jun 27, 2017 01:17
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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Brendan Rodgers posted:Yeah everyone with a hardon for nukes needs to be forced to watch this BBC test run of their nuclear warning, or at least the last 10 minutes. Lord Buckethead had the right idea. i like that the only action taken by donald trump in this video was to nuke poland
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Jun 27, 2017 01:20
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OwlFancier posted:It's always a bit eerie when those go off near me. I was in Redcar a month or two back and there was just an air raid siren going off in the distance. I always wonder what they're for. Not sure if this has been answered as I've got to go to bed and haven't the time to read the rest of the thread, but these go off every Tuesday as a test. Their actual purpose is to alert people to chemical leaks from the industry in the area. gently caress knows what the plan is if there's a leak on a Tuesday afternoon like.
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Jun 27, 2017 01:29
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Jun 27, 2017 01:31
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blowfish posted:if they're pets then yeah A cat cannot stop their base natures or have some degree of control over them like a human does People should put bells on their cats to prevent this if they wanted to protect the birbs
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You guys don't have your fire stations test their sirens every week?Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:A cat cannot stop their base natures or have some degree of control over them like a human does You must think cats are loving stupid. Cats make sure their movement doesn't ring the bell. Or at least mine did. Our cats generally only killed rabbits and mice and would bring them back to us though, so they've been good cats. WhiskeyWhiskers fucked around with this message at 01:36 on Jun 27, 2017 |
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Jun 27, 2017 01:32
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Jakabite posted:Not sure if this has been answered as I've got to go to bed and haven't the time to read the rest of the thread, but these go off every Tuesday as a test. Their actual purpose is to alert people to chemical leaks from the industry in the area. gently caress knows what the plan is if there's a leak on a Tuesday afternoon like. Raskolnikov38 posted:i like that the only action taken by donald trump in this video was to nuke poland
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Guavanaut posted:If it's anything like the plan for Grenfell then it's probably to hope that everyone in the area has built up an immunity from the poor maintenance. to help the russian invasion
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:You guys don't have your fire stations test their sirens every week? What?
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