Perestroika posted:

Consider Lübeck instead, Kiel's far more handsome little sibling. Same temperate weather, really beautiful historical old town, and all the marzipan you could ever want. Only downside is that it's, like, super tiny.

GaussianCopula posted:

In my opinion you should name streets after people that

a) have some connection to the street or city
b) are easy to write
c) are worthy of being honored with a street name

You should, unless in cases where the person was a criminal or all around bad person, not rename streets. I like the solution that was used in Berlin before this where they just changed the person being honored without renaming the street by saying "we now mean a different Peters" because it means the bad name is gone without messing with the street name on addresses and stuff.

GaussianCopula posted:

In my opinion you should name streets after people that

a) have some connection to the street or city
b) are easy to write
c) are worthy of being honored with a street name

You should, unless in cases where the person was a criminal or all around bad person, not rename streets. I like the solution that was used in Berlin before this where they just changed the person being honored without renaming the street by saying "we now mean a different Peters" because it means the bad name is gone without messing with the street name on addresses and stuff.

Cingulate posted:

I dunno. Why not name streets after some African queen for a change? Most of your streets are gonna follow a) and at least some b) and c) already. Why not have one named "Nzinga von Matamba-Str."?

GaussianCopula posted:

I don't see why there has to be a street names after an African queen in Berlin - just like I don't think cities in Ghana have to have a Adenauer Street.

Bistromatic posted:

I'm from dowtown Lübeck and when my girlfriend first visited her reaction was "you grew up in a postcard".

GaussianCopula posted:

Because

a) She was not a nice person.
b) She has no connection to Berlin or even Germany.
c) Her name is not easily spelled

I don't see why there has to be a street names after an African queen in Berlin - just like I don't think cities in Ghana have to have a Adenauer Street.

Cingulate posted:

Agree, Lübeck is the prettiest.

I personally don't see why a) and b) should matter; c) might reasonably be seen as a benefit - it's easily recognizable.
I wouldn't mind if some city in Ghana had an Adenauer Street. Why not?

I mean, you feel street names should have some sort of local origin. Ok, I guess most people would say most street names should have a local origin. But why shouldn't a few have different origins, beyond "I feel they shouldn't have"?

Drone posted:

Barring this one incidence where the committee maybe could have picked someone better, I don't see why there couldn't be. Or would you rather Wedding kept its streets-named-after-former-German-colonies-in-Africa as a reminder of Germany's "gentle" history of colonialism?

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Anwohner hatten 2011 die Initiative Pro Afrikanisches Viertel (IPAV) gegründet, um Straßenumbenennungen zu verhindern. Die IPAV hatte Tausende Unterschriften gegen die geforderte Umbenennung gesammelt und 2016 Kompromissvorschläge gemacht: Der Nachtigalplatz solle wie bei der Petersallee umgewidmet werden und statt wie bisher dem Kolonialpolitiker Gustav Nachtigal dem Theologen und Schriftsteller Johann Karl Christoph Nachtigal gewidmet werden. Die Lüderitzstraße soll nicht mehr Adolf Lüderitz gewidmet sein, sondern der nach ihm benannten Hafenstadt Lüderitz, so die Idee.

GaussianCopula posted:

Would you want a street named after a warlord who poisoned their sibling and traded in slaves and collaborated with different European powers to stay in power?

Probably not.

The fact that she is female and black should not change that.

Cingulate posted:

I guess for most people, this would be bad because street names are considered as praise, but to me, considering many streets are named after quite awful people, that's not really the case - I think street names are just names that remind us of people, and it's good to be reminded of bad people. So no, I wouldn't mind that. Call a street Genghis Khan Street, call it Voldemort Street for all I care - not to celebrate them, but to remind us of what humans are capable of.

I particularly wouldn't care if the person was not associated with the city. Don't need to restrict the Genghis Kahn Street name to cities that have been sacked by the Mongols!

GaussianCopula posted:

In that case, why rename streets that are named after people responsible for the German colonial history?

Goa Tse-tung posted:

best streetnames are obv in Hamburg

Ole Enn, Lütt Kollau, Ophagen

Randler posted:

Ich würde vorschlagen, Straßen- und Plätze ausschließlich nach Tieren zu benennen, um zartbesaitete Sozen und Lehramtsstudenten nicht emotional zu zerrütten.

Cingulate posted:

In this case the offended party is GC ..?

Also why not Tyrannosaurusstraße

Drone posted:

When they run out of animal names, GC would probably be more than happy to take an apartment on PzKpfw38(t)-Straße

Randler posted:

According to threadlore, GaussianCopula could certainly tell you why no Tyrannosaurusstraße was mentioned.

aphid_licker posted:

Pinguinweg wäre wirklich bezaubernd. Ok ich bin überzeugt. Großartige Lösung.

Drone posted:

When they run out of animal names, GC would probably be more than happy to take an apartment on PzKpfw38(t)-Straße

Cingulate posted:

I'd still like Tyrannosaurusstraße

Raspberry Jam It In Me posted:

There is a Panzerwiese in northern Munich and I have no idea why it's called that way.

Drone posted:

When they run out of animal names, GC would probably be more than happy to take an apartment on PzKpfw38(t)-Straße

Smirr posted:

Bedshaped posted:

Ich warte für den supermarkt zu eröffnen.

This is my second time in Germany. What are some of the big social political problems facing the country currently? Are there nationwide problems or can anyone tell me specific problems with NRW?

Bedshaped posted:

Are there nationwide problems or can anyone tell me specific problems with NRW?

botany posted:

How long are you staying?

Sereri posted:

NRW ist selbst ein Problem meiner bescheidenen Meinung nach. Hoffe das hilft.

Bedshaped posted:

Until Thursday. After that, possibly the rest of my life.