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At this point in The Pandorica Opens / The Big Bang finale Amy was dead, Rory was a plastic robot, River was trapped in a time loop, the Doctor was imprisoned, and the universe had exploded. I'm not that worried about Bill.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhYIvOJ3i_4 Well, I heard Bill's normal voice, so I guess she gets fixed at some point Vinylshadow fucked around with this message at 02:14 on Jun 27, 2017 |
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Vinylshadow posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhYIvOJ3i_4 (trailer spoiler?) We also see her lying in bed non-converted around the twenty second mark Are next episode trailers considered spoilers in this thread? EDIT: Answered my own question with the OP. They are. Mokinokaro fucked around with this message at 01:14 on Jun 27, 2017 |
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Doctor Spaceman posted:At this point in The Pandorica Opens / The Big Bang finale Amy was dead, Rory was a plastic robot, River was trapped in a time loop, the Doctor was imprisoned, and the universe had exploded. At this point in series 9 Clara had died outright one episode previously, this is nothing
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In addition to being converted Bill also has a giant hole in her torso. Heart, lungs, spine, esophagus all have a significant chunk just gone. Though I suppose that isn't a long-term problem, since at one point Nardole was just a head.
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What do you think Missy's arc is going to be like? I don't think it is going to be straight redemption, or only her being totally evil. I think it might settle into her being kind of an amoral trickster, or kind of a sinister but not evil mastermind. Really kind of returning it to the status quo of the Master's first season.
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Finally caught up with everything. Empress of Mars and Eaters of Light were both bog-standard and nearly put me to sleep, with the ridiculous "NASA" from Mars' intro being the only standout. World Enough... is the first episode this season that really feels like a genuinely great episode. That's not to say this season hasn't been entertaining, but unless they completely botch the landing (always a possibility with this show), I have a feeling WE&T will end up as this season's Heaven Sent. I follow the spoiler thread, so I'd seen the sockheads and Mondasian Cybermen months ago in set leaks and I was unsure the designs would work in 2017. Glad to see I was wrong and that they were genuinely unsettling. As always, lighting and cinematography make all the difference.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Finally caught up with everything. Empress of Mars and Eaters of Light were both bog-standard and nearly put me to sleep, with the ridiculous "NASA" from Mars' intro being the only standout. World Enough... is the first episode this season that really feels like a genuinely great episode. That's not to say this season hasn't been entertaining, but unless they completely botch the landing (always a possibility with this show), I have a feeling WE&T will end up as this season's Heaven Sent. Yeah, I'm genuinely impressed by how much creepiness they pulled out of so few changes (and not even intentional ones, it's just that they couldn't *quite* get the exact original processes down for costuming/etc.), considering how poorly the original appearances have aged on that front. Hell, even the sing-song-y voice basically works! (Though in fairness we also only got a handful of lines with the full effect, since Bill's the only "full" conversion to have been on screen yet - though if you count the prototype voiceboxes, "PAIN. PAIN. PAIN." alone would make it work.)
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Tbh I thought "kill me kill me" was going a bit too far for the creepy atmosphere, though I quite liked the later "die me die me"
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2house2fly posted:"die me die me" "The me, the me" 
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I thought it was "tie me" and he was holding out his hands to be tied up for some reason.
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For any other faults they might have, Big Finish long ago proved to me that the original Cybermen voices can be really, really, really creepy.
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Astroman posted:I thought it was "tie me" and he was holding out his hands to be tied up for some reason. Hey, what the qliphothic cyborg does on its own time is none of our business.
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So, inspired by the last episode, I decided to go back and watch The Tenth Planet. I'm two episodes in, and it always takes me by surprise just how much fun the Hartnell era was even when he's clearly barely healthy enough to play the role any more. The Cybermens' attitude of "listenyouIIIIIIdiots, quitWASTINGtimeandletUSSSSSSShelpyou" (for certain values of 'help') is wonderful, but the General's attitude toward the Doctor is almost as much fun, particularly given the later Doctors' tendency to wander into situations like that and just take charge. That scene where the Doctor launches into "Oh, well millions of years ago there was this plan-" "OH gently caress OFF" made me laugh way too hard. I'm probably going to go through and take in a Cybermen story for each Doctor (video or audio) where that's possible. Question. Since I've seen Tomb quite a few times (and I love it, don't get me wrong), which is the best of the remaining Troughton Cybermen stories? (I don't mind reconstructions or just listening to soundtracks, obviously.) I'm thinking Invasion, since I've not seen that one. For the record: I know Three only has like one audio that features them, Four I'll probably watch Revenge, Five will obviously be Spare Parts (sorry Adric, I'll leave watching Sarah Sutton giggle at your death scene for another day), not sure about Six, Seven or Eight yet, War, is there even anything, Nine I guess there just isn't an option so I'll probably watch Dalek again on the grounds that there's a Cyberman's head in it, Ten will probably be The Next Doctor (which I know not everyone loves but which I adore), and Eleven...eh, probably Closing Time. This post brought to you by some dumb insomnia.
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docbeard posted:So, inspired by the last episode, I decided to go back and watch The Tenth Planet. I'm two episodes in, and it always takes me by surprise just how much fun the Hartnell era was even when he's clearly barely healthy enough to play the role any more. For 7 I'd go with The Harvest. It's probably one of my favourite 7 stories overall. Silver Nemesis could be pretty much any Who villain in it, they don't really do anything particularly Cybermanny, so I wouldn't bother.
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docbeard posted:I'm probably going to go through and take in a Cybermen story for each Doctor (video or audio) where that's possible. Question. Since I've seen Tomb quite a few times (and I love it, don't get me wrong), which is the best of the remaining Troughton Cybermen stories? (I don't mind reconstructions or just listening to soundtracks, obviously.) I'm thinking Invasion, since I've not seen that one. If you haven't seen Invasion you should probably go for that I guess, though personally I'm a little more partial to The Moonbase. docbeard posted:not sure about Six, Seven or Eight yet For Sixie you probably can't go wrong with Legend of the Cybermen (Six, Jamie, Zoe, and the land of fiction), for Seven if you feel like dipping into the books instead there's Illegal Alien which sees Seven and Ace happening across the Cybermen in Blitz-ravaged London, and for Eight I'm rather fond of The Silver Turk.
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Invasion for Troughton for sure. For 8, I'm going to put this in spoiler tags for anybody else lucky enough not to already know, but check out the 8th Doctor Adventures story Human Resources. I can't recommend it highly enough.
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Jerusalem posted:Invasion for Troughton for sure. Man, stuff like that is such a pain to recommend. It's like when people want a good Master story and you want to recomend UNIT: Dominion but you can't without giving it away.
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For 11, why not do Time Of The Doctor. It isn't really a Cybermen story but come on, it has Handles 
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2house2fly posted:For 11, why not do Time Of The Doctor. It isn't really a Cybermen story but come on, it has Handles Aww Handles. Truly the best of us. Who said Moffat doesn't kill companions?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4k_gVm5RFs
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The_Doctor posted:Aww Handles. Truly the best of us. Who said Moffat doesn't kill companions?
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docbeard posted:not sure about Six yet
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It's a shame it's basically unusable in several contexts due to being a huge spoiler, but I just saw someone refer to this last episode as Spare Potts and I love it.
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Yo real talk. What are the chances of us seeing the next who in five days?
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Lampsacus posted:Yo real talk. What are the chances of us seeing the next who in five days? The next doctor? 0% - that'll be at Christmas.
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Plavski posted:The next doctor? 0% - that'll be at Christmas. Somebody's clearly forgetting the first nuWho regeneration.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Attack of the Cybermen is one of the better (televised) Six stories, which really isn't saying much. The fact you're right is very depressing.
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They'd have made an announcement as to the casting if they were going to reveal it this Saturday, I think. They'll announce soon and the new actor will appear in the Christmas special.
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I'm honestly hoping we do find out on Saturday, but purely as a surprise. Imagine the coup that would be. 
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The_Doctor posted:I'm honestly hoping we do find out on Saturday, but purely as a surprise. Imagine the coup that would be. Would make up for the lovely spoilers in the trailer for the most recent episode.
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The_Doctor posted:I'm honestly hoping we do find out on Saturday, but purely as a surprise. Imagine the coup that would be. It would be awesome if that were the case, definitely.
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Fil5000 posted:For 7 I'd go with The Harvest. It's probably one of my favourite 7 stories overall. Silver Nemesis could be pretty much any Who villain in it, they don't really do anything particularly Cybermanny, so I wouldn't bother. Silver Nemesis was actually the first Doctor Who episode I ever saw, as a young'n. For some reason, I kept watching. Good call on The Harvest, I've listened to it before but it's been a while and I really liked it. Doctor Spaceman posted:Attack of the Cybermen is one of the better (televised) Six stories, which really isn't saying much. I'll probably go with this for Six, since I'm doing audios for Five, Seven, and Eight. Though I'm definitely intrigued by Legend and will go back and check it out sometime. Jerusalem posted:For 8, I'm going to put this in spoiler tags for anybody else lucky enough not to already know, but check out the 8th Doctor Adventures story Human Resources. I can't recommend it highly enough. I think I knew about this one already, but I've never heard it, and I'm leaning toward it. (But I've also not listened to The Girl Who Never Was, and I've heard most of the other Eight-Charley stories. Eh, another time.) 2house2fly posted:For 11, why not do Time Of The Doctor. It isn't really a Cybermen story but come on, it has Handles I love Time Of The Doctor and I guess it has those wooden Cybermen in too, but ultimately it's been longer since I've seen Closing Time. Tempting to do a run of the regeneration stories next, mind. Anyway, thanks everyone for your suggestions. Looks like my choices are: The Tenth Planet The Invasion The Blue Tooth Revenge of the Cybermen Spare Parts Attack Of The Cybermen The Harvest Human Resources Dalek The Next Doctor Closing Time Dark Water/Death In Heaven
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The Moonbase really is a pretty good one too. I never got to see the Wheel in Space though
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Burkion posted:The Moonbase really is a pretty good one too. I never got to see the Wheel in Space though There is honestly a lot from the Troughton era I need to go back and see (to the extent that it's possible).
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docbeard posted:I love Time Of The Doctor and I guess it has those wooden Cybermen in too, but ultimately it's been longer since I've seen Closing Time. Tempting to do a run of the regeneration stories next, mind. I actually kind of want to watch the Craig stories back to back now. They might be some of my favourite non-Moffat episodes
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How many TV Cybermen stories do they actually convert people in, incidentally? I've not see much pre Pertwee, but from some Wikipedia reading it looks like Tomb, Attack and the post revival ones are about it.
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Bicyclops posted:They'd have made an announcement as to the casting if they were going to reveal it this Saturday, I think. They'll announce soon and the new actor will appear in the Christmas special. 
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Chiming in to agree, this episode was great. I wasn't always a fan of Simm as the Master, but he was great here.
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thrawn527 posted:Chiming in to agree, this episode was great. I wasn't always a fan of Simm as the Master, but he was great here. I thought Simm's performance was always about as good as possible given the material he had to work with. And this time he had excellent material instead of "lol give him magic rays".
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docbeard posted:I thought Simm's performance was always about as good as possible given the material he had to work with. And this time he had excellent material instead of "lol give him magic rays". This is true, but, and I never would have imagined this, I really enjoyed how RTD the "Prime Minister" line and delivery was. It felt...familiar, and comfortable.
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