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El Gallinero Gros posted:I can't speak for anybody else, but I feel like if you have the ability to score 15-20 goals once, you can do it again. Taking a flyer on the kid with the hope he can be a 2nd or 3rd line quality forward when he's shown that ability in the past isn't too crazy. I agree him living up to his pre-draft hype isn't happening, though. But I'd be excited if Calgary offered him a deal. The Yak we saw last year will never be a 20 goal scorer in the NHL unless he's getting first line and first PP minutes and playing with elite players ala what you might call the Pascal Dupuis experience.
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Jun 27, 2017 17:05
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bewbies posted:The Yak we saw last year will never be a 20 goal scorer in the NHL unless he's getting first line and first PP minutes and playing with elite players ala what you might call the Pascal Dupuis experience. Dupuis at least brought good two-way play to the table to go along with being a body Sid could bank pucks in off of. The Yakster isn't good even at that currently.
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Jun 27, 2017 17:06
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Wonderllama posted:This is a weird FA season where it's just all of us in here hoping our team doesn't sign anyone of the available players. knowing that vegas is shopping around sbisa and emelin and apparently getting interest just adds another element of danger, so even if your team manages to be one of the 30 lucky winners of the dan girardi sweepstakes there's still the possibility of being a runner up
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Jun 27, 2017 17:06
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20 million in three defenseman. treat yo self, bergevin.
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Jun 27, 2017 17:09
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I think I'd be totally happy with re-signing Smith (DAS collectively takes a horrified gasp) as long as the contract isn't too dumb. He was pretty much a perfect 2nd pairing guy with Skjei last year. Shattenkirk? Maybe if they have some plan to move Staal to free up that space the it wouldn't be too bad to have them all signed there, but otherwise like I said that's a lot of money tied up in defense and Skjei is up for a new contract after this season as well. I would be much more happy with some kind of defensive configuration that had Holden as the 3rd pair left D and one of the guys they signed playing the right side (Bereglazov, Pionk, etc)
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Jun 27, 2017 17:10
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I'm OK with this.
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Jun 27, 2017 17:25
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That second year has got to be frightening to anyone thinking to sign him (unless he's some sort of fitness freak)
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Jun 27, 2017 17:33
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It is not surprising at all that Alzner is being linked to almost every Canadian team. Canadian media loves that type of player, and so do most Canadian NHL GMs.
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Jun 27, 2017 17:37
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:That second year has got to be frightening to anyone thinking to sign him (unless he's some sort of fitness freak) to my knowledge he's stayed pretty healthy the last 5-6 years, for what that's worth
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Jun 27, 2017 17:37
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DJExile posted:to my knowledge he's stayed pretty healthy the last 5-6 years, for what that's worth didn't he gently caress up his knee in the past 3 years or so
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Jun 27, 2017 17:38
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:That second year has got to be frightening to anyone thinking to sign him (unless he's some sort of fitness freak) I wonder if he'd take a one year deal with a team option worth the same amount if a contender offered him a deal
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Jun 27, 2017 17:40
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Levitate posted:I think I'd be totally happy with re-signing Smith (DAS collectively takes a horrified gasp) as long as the contract isn't too dumb. He was pretty much a perfect 2nd pairing guy with Skjei last year. the problem with that is that we have no idea if either bereglazov or pionk can be a competent nhl defenseman yet. ditto graves if you wanna throw him in there too. also deangelo's sample size was small last year but his shot suppression was about as low as it can possibly be. you need to shelter him, at least for now, and not give him second pair minutes. i agree that we should get rid of staal and his contract, but realistically don't you think that would have happened already if it was going to happen at all?
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Jun 27, 2017 17:41
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Levitate posted:didn't he gently caress up his knee in the past 3 years or so Twice!
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Jun 27, 2017 17:44
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a false posted:the problem with that is that we have no idea if either bereglazov or pionk can be a competent nhl defenseman yet. ditto graves if you wanna throw him in there too. I think you gotta sink or swim a little bit at this point if you're the Rangers. They've got a lot of guys who could be competing for spots and I don't think the answer to it is to spend a huge amount of money on free agents instead. Realistically Holden is still on this team and he's still a roster spot right D for now, so we're probably not actually looking to fill 3 RD spots with D'Angelo, Pionk, Bereglazov and maybe UFA's. e: regarding Staal, it's still early in the offseason and people are still looking for players. Staal might end up being a consolation prize for a team that didn't get Alzner, Emelin, Sbisa, etc (oh my god hahaha) I'm not sure the Rangers actually want to trade him though
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Jun 27, 2017 17:50
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Isn't Staal generally considered better than Sbisa and Emelin, even with the injuries affecting his play?
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Jun 27, 2017 17:55
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Isn't Staal generally considered better than Sbisa and Emelin, even with the injuries affecting his play? He's really really bad OP.
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Jun 27, 2017 17:56
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McDonagh-Shattenkirk Skjei-Smith Holden-Deangelo and then all the guys with no NHL experience. It's not that hard, assuming that 20m in cap space is awaiting Shattenkirk.
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Jun 27, 2017 17:59
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Matt Zerella posted:He's really really bad OP. Right, but Sbisa and Emelin are considered worse, aren't they?
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Jun 27, 2017 18:00
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Right, but Sbisa and Emelin are considered worse, aren't they? As a non fancy stats understander, I put them in the same group. Take that for what it's worth.
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Jun 27, 2017 18:01
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Zodijackylite posted:McDonagh-Shattenkirk I mean yes that would be the best configuration of defensemen if we aren't worried about cap space and Staal can be moved. That's a massive makeover from pretty crappy D to really modern NHL D that can move the puck very well El Gallinero Gros posted:Isn't Staal generally considered better than Sbisa and Emelin, even with the injuries affecting his play? Matt Zerella posted:He's really really bad OP. He...well, I dunno, he can flash some pretty good periods of play but he's also pretty drat slow these days and his depth perception has affected his ability to move the puck. His stickwork and gap work is probably still good if he's not having to defend a guy flying at him full speed. If you pair him up with a guy who can move the puck well he'd probably be decent. Pairing him with Holden was bad bad bad bad last year.
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Jun 27, 2017 18:02
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Oh, right, I forgot Marc Staal exists. Maybe we can send him to Minnesota to be with his brother, and hope it works out better than it did with Boogaard.
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Jun 27, 2017 18:07
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Zodijackylite posted:McDonagh-Shattenkirk yeah i'd like that to be the play but unfortunately it seems like they actually want to keep, and use, marc staal
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Jun 27, 2017 18:08
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Zodijackylite posted:hope it works out better than it did with Boogaard. i mean....
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Jun 27, 2017 18:08
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Zodijackylite posted:Oh, right, I forgot Marc Staal exists. Maybe we can send him to Minnesota to be with his brother, and hope it works out better than it did with Boogaard. 
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Jun 27, 2017 18:11
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Zodijackylite posted:Oh, right, I forgot Marc Staal exists. Maybe we can send him to Minnesota to be with his brother, and hope it works out better than it did with Boogaard. You take that back you bastard
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Jun 27, 2017 18:14
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El Gallinero Gros posted:I wonder if he'd take a one year deal with a team option worth the same amount if a contender offered him a deal There is no such thing as a 'team option' in the NHL
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Jun 27, 2017 18:30
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Zodijackylite posted:Oh, right, I forgot Marc Staal exists. Maybe we can send him to Minnesota to be with his brother, and hope it works out better than it did with Boogaard. Jesus, man
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Jun 27, 2017 19:29
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Zodijackylite posted:Oh, right, I forgot Marc Staal exists. Maybe we can send him to Minnesota to be with his brother, and hope it works out better than it did with Boogaard. yikes
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Jun 27, 2017 19:35
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https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/879768177395290114 Chiarelli, after the Oilers get eliminated: Our defense isn't good enough to make it to the conference finals Also Chiarelli: *doesn't improve the defense that he said wasn't good enough*
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Jun 27, 2017 19:35
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Kilza posted:https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/879768177395290114 He's probably working out a deal with Girardi and one with Vegas for Emelin right now.
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Jun 27, 2017 19:39
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https://twitter.com/j_chychrun7/status/879516613170647041 my man
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Jun 27, 2017 19:40
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i always thought gryba was bad but it seems like his underlying numbers are actually halfway decent
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Jun 27, 2017 19:40
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sbisa is bad but he's an nhl player still. canucks fans hatred of him is mostly due to him being the 'prize' return in the kesler trade
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Jun 27, 2017 19:47
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the talent deficit posted:sbisa is bad but he's an nhl player still. canucks fans hatred of him is mostly due to him being the 'prize' return in the kesler trade He's a sub-average third pairing defenseman who's making far too much money. Until like, a week ago we all thought Bonino was the prize return from that trade.
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Jun 27, 2017 19:54
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Sbisa is loving awful - but some of that may have been Willie D giving him the most TOI ON THE WHOLE loving TEAM
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Jun 27, 2017 19:58
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I bet Luca Sbisa is the most discussed player in NHLSAS, which is kind of weird.
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Jun 27, 2017 20:18
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Kilza posted:https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/879768177395290114 Gryba as a 6/7 d at that money is fine. There's no one else on the right side in the minors that's ready and if Bear or Mantha somehow prove they can play next year, you can bury that contract or trade it very easily.
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Jun 27, 2017 20:20
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Friedman is saying the Rangers and Smith are close to a deal 
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https://twitter.com/Russostrib/status/879746409683136512 Cullen said in his exit interview that he wouldn't go anywhere but back to the Penguins if he decided not to retire so I don't think the Wild will have much luck there. Kunitz seems kind of random though. bewbies posted:I bet Luca Sbisa is the most discussed player in NHLSAS, which is kind of weird. lovely depth defensemen in general get a lot of airtime here, probably because we're all negative nancies who love to bitch and every team has one
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