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business hammocks posted:The 4chan pathology is so weird. It's all just self-hatred where they agree that they are garbage nobodies. The way to deal with them would be to encourage them to get in shape and make friends. imma steal this from a pyf thread  it's hard to tell how many layers of irony things are on 4chan i swear to god everyone who fucks a pillow tells themselves they do it ironically too
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Pittsburgh Lambic posted:imma steal this from a pyf thread Sounds like /pol/ is a self-solving problem 
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and thinking about it some more it's totally the core of a toxic thing like gamergate- gamers feel threatened because games are all that they have, and so if someone wants to change them - even slightly - that's scary. the toxic movement and attack on women is bred by deeper dysfunction, it totally makes sense actually. the funniest thing is though, if they "let" women in, it'd be more socially accepted as another half of the drat world grows to be in to something more than they are - and their misery would subside as they could chat up a girl at a bar about a new game just like they could a new movie or something. but it's not about games being accepted, it's about deep self-loathing.
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, I probably said it like 50 pages ago already, but unless you literally make a living off esports (lol) there is no sentence on earth that is more cringeworthy than "I'm a gamer".
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Kjoery posted:"Computing Forever" Hes an EDL fan, even though hes Irish. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S81ZUKAi6og The EDL would tell him to gently caress off back home too.
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business hammocks posted:The 4chan pathology is so weird. It's all just self-hatred where they agree that they are garbage nobodies. The way to deal with them would be to encourage them to get in shape and make friends. Many of them feel hosed over by the modern situation especially post-recession but their conclusion is poo poo like feminism and immigrants did it because that's what they've been told I guess. Some of them have become total nihilists though. The "black pill" which is "burn down society" instead of altright "the west is best" is a thing
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Pittsburgh Lambic posted:imma steal this from a pyf thread The self-loathing came first, the politics after. They laughingly agree that they're scum because they have internalized the idea that they are scum. The whole "proud boy" phenomenon is especially fascinating, in that they are seriously attempting to be a new skinhead movement, but they can't do it unless they treat themselves as a joke. It's a white pride movement made of self-deprecating rituals.
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aware of dog posted:Going back to Maddox for a minute, here he is with a bunch of nazis The Nerd Reich is going to be loving weird, it's like techbros but somehow worse.
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Pittsburgh Lambic posted:imma steal this from a pyf thread i mean that's obviously a joke. business hammocks posted:The self-loathing came first, the politics after. They laughingly agree that they're scum because they have internalized the idea that they are scum. The whole "proud boy" phenomenon is especially fascinating, in that they are seriously attempting to be a new skinhead movement, but they can't do it unless they treat themselves as a joke. It's a white pride movement made of self-deprecating rituals. why is there gay pride and black pride??? i wanna be a proud boy *has nothing to be proud of despite having every societal advantage possible*
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What I also don't get is that if you believe individually you have no power but collectively you can change the world then there's already an ideology for you and it's loving communism you dolts.
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Yeah, but then you make the world better for everyone, and everyone includes brown people and women.
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guys i'm really smart and also good and on the right side of history *grasps onto an ideology that got its poo poo stomped by the rest of the world and is now shorthand for the ultimate evil*
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True. It's really hard for me to get either of those impulses I guess having been raised exclusively by women and thus being more socially comfortable with them then men, and also growing up in multicultural britain which, for all the gripes I have with the Blair government, they made drat sure to stuff it down your neck in school that racism is bad. So it's weird to me that people my age would grow up to be either misogynists or committed racists.
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That's the thing, like you can make a case that the soviet application of communism and 20th century Marxists did some pretty bad poo poo, but the fundamental ideas at the core of it as well as socialism tries to actually make something better for the world and human being of all stripes and offers actual solutions that benefit people in many many ways, so you can make some sort of case for believing in it and not be a complete piece of poo poo rear end in a top hat. Unlike the ideology behind these YouTube Nazis where the very CORE of it REQUIRES nothing BUT racism, censorship, mysoginy, apartheid, slavery mass murder and ethnic cleansing and mass oppression and death and destruction on a massive scale, like there's literally nothing redeemable about it it's like trying to convince someone that slavery and child murder is bad, I can't come to any conclusion other than these shots are literally human garbage because the core of what they believe is utter poo poo. Al-Saqr fucked around with this message at 22:15 on Jun 27, 2017 |
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OwlFancier posted:So it's weird to me that people my age would grow up to be either misogynists or committed racists. it really just takes one thing to break someone's brain. my brother was a totally normal and intelligent dude and his long time gf hosed him over incredibly hard (and she really did isn't just sour graps on his end) and he never recovered from it and it sent him down a dark path and now i'm pretty sure he's full on alt right. he once said i was virtue signalling and my mom was telling me he once got mad when she said trump is a stupid person. i literally can't visit my parents if he's home because he goes into a rage due to cognitive dissonance. Groovelord Neato fucked around with this message at 22:23 on Jun 27, 2017 |
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Groovelord Neato posted:it really just takes one thing to break someone's brain. my brother was a totally normal and intelligent dude and his long time gf hosed him over incredibly hard (and she really did isn't just sour graps on his end) and he never recovered from it and it sent him down a dark path and now i'm pretty sure he's full on alt right. he once said i was virtue signalling and my mom was telling me he once got made when she said trump is a stupid person. i literally can't visit my parents if he's home because he goes into a rage due to cognitive dissonance. yeah, i know a few people like that too. it sucks. OwlFancier posted:
because its the new counter culture(i am not defending that poo poo by saying it like that either) its a "gently caress you, mom and dad and society" deal. we are living in the late 60s all over again except instead Haight-Ashbury and woodstock and free love, its bunch of fat nazis because "memes".
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I suppose I feel like your counter culture should be based on a desire to reject the lovely parts of the conservative norm, not the actually quite good and not very old parts that the conservatives already reject? I don't think the 60's were "gently caress you mam and dad I'm going to go put on my top hat and pretend to be an 1890's robber baron". OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 22:28 on Jun 27, 2017 |
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Dapper_Swindler posted:because its the new counter culture(i am not defending that poo poo by saying it like that either) its a "gently caress you, mom and dad and society" deal. we are living in the late 60s all over again except instead Haight-Ashbury and woodstock and free love, its bunch of fat nazis because "memes". And now liberals have assumed the role of the pearl clutching morality police, so the dynamic is reversed. (Not saying that label is fair, just how it's perceived to be playing out) I mean look at the insistence of Milo that being right-wing is Punk now, it's taking that counter-culture that loved transgression, post-modernism, and irony and turning it into it's own thing. Those were so squarely described as "left-wing" ideas I don't think anyone expected it to be adopted by some right-wing groups.
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I don't think I want communists and nazis to be the new mods and rockers.
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it's dumb because right wingers are still the biggest snowflakes and pearl clutchers. wahhhh they put trump in a play i don't understand the point of. wahhhh the football player took a knee because black people get hosed over by the police. wahhhh blue lives matter!!!
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Dreylad posted:And now liberals have assumed the role of the pearl clutching morality police, so the dynamic is reversed. (Not saying that label is fair, just how it's perceived to be playing out) imo they desperately want to be cool hip guys but since leftists have a total monopoly on the cutting edge of culture and what is considered cool they have to contort themselves into pretending that the left are actually the stodgy church dads
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Dreylad posted:And now liberals have assumed the role of the pearl clutching morality police, so the dynamic is reversed. (Not saying that label is fair, just how it's perceived to be playing out) yeah pretty much. and some liberals fallen into that role, but mostly its limited by the sensitive whining of the alt right. Groovelord Neato posted:it's dumb because right wingers are still the biggest snowflakes and pearl clutchers. wahhhh they put trump in a play i don't understand the point of. wahhhh the football player took a knee because black people get hosed over by the police. wahhhh blue lives matter!!! pretty much.
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"i hate how politically correct you have to be these days." "our criminal justice system is objectively and horrifically racist." "wahhhhh you want all cops to die wahhhh he was no angel."
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Groovelord Neato posted:"i hate how politically correct you have to be these days." "our criminal justice system is objectively and horrifically racist." "wahhhhh you want all cops to die wahhhh he was no angel." I have legit seen alt right types get more pissed off over pictures of dead Nazi's than systemic racism. They should probably check their priorities.
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Groovelord Neato posted:"i hate how politically correct you have to be these days." "our criminal justice system is objectively and horrifically racist." "wahhhhh you want all cops to die wahhhh he was no angel." I think we peaked on this when the new Wolftenstein game was met with uproar about how it glorified killing nazi's.
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https://waypoint.vice.com/en_us/article/8x9wyv/gamergate-feminism-cyberpunk-an-interview-with-the-last-night-designer waypoint did a interview with the cyberpunk dude who has poo poo politics, was more interesting then i thought it would be, its why i will always love waypoint over polygon/verge.
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Pittsburgh Lambic posted:imma steal this from a pyf thread
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OwlFancier posted:True. Because its easier to blame other people for your own problems! That and the system is rigged against working class males and they need an easy target instead of blaming the vast and complex society and governmental structures
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Dapper_Swindler posted:https://waypoint.vice.com/en_us/article/8x9wyv/gamergate-feminism-cyberpunk-an-interview-with-the-last-night-designer Why wont people stop harassing game devs for their political beliefs?
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It really is impossible to discern what portion of the 'chans are genuine nazis from those who are just parroting that poo poo because gently caress you dad, though when that's all you joke about you really are a broke-brained, tragic human anyway. Like the freshman who only makes dead baby jokes in the cafeteria, over and over, while everybody else is just a normal person trying to make conversation.
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Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:Why wont people stop harassing game devs for their political beliefs? ehh. the only time a publishers politics annoyed me was the devs from The Chinese Room because they make awful and pretentious walking sims(unlike good interesting ones like gone home) then openly insult and attack other devs(they compared quiet from MGS5 to nazi anti jewish propganda, yeah quiet was loving dumb, but not that bad, and they poo poo on cd project red a few times), sure critism is good, but they come off as bitter alot, so gently caress em. the only other game like that i hate is sunset, which had a cool as gently caress idea and ended up being total crap and pretentious as hell. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZly6bW3UMk Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 23:40 on Jun 27, 2017 |
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Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:Why wont people stop harassing game devs for their political beliefs? For the same reason people have been giving artists poo poo for their private life's for decades.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:ehh. the only time a publishers politics annoyed me was the devs from The Chinese Room because they make awful and pretentious walking sims(unlike good interesting ones like gone home) then openly insult and attack other devs(they compared quiet from MGS5 to nazi anti jewish propganda, yeah quiet was loving dumb, but not that bad, and they poo poo on cd project red a few times), sure critism is good, but they come off as bitter alot, so gently caress em. amnesia 2 was an affront to god. Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:Why wont people stop harassing game devs for their political beliefs? here's an easy way to avoid that: don't believe things that are empirically false or morally abhorrent.
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Groovelord Neato posted:amnesia 2 was an affront to god. yeah. i like walking sims and weird stuff like that, the issue i have is people take the wrong lesson from gone home. gone home was good because it took the enviromental story telling from minervas den and told its story almost exclusivly that way. but instead people just focused on the progressive story/message. which is nice and good, but its not why the story was good, its how it was told. so you get alot of these pretentious jackoffs like the sunset devs and the chinese room who just throw their college 101 course writing at you while making you walk around instead allowing the player to put together the story themselves, but these fuckers are too lazy for that and are afraid if they dont scream their message at you, you will not learn a lesson or some poo poo. its not that the politics are bad, its just they are terrible story tellers. Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 23:47 on Jun 27, 2017 |
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i think gone home was not good at all and the only walking sim that was even half good was soma. amnesia 2 came out before gone home i'm p sure.Pittsburgh Lambic posted:yeah, thought criminals totally deserve to get harassed christ this dumb gently caress is back.
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Groovelord Neato posted:here's an easy way to avoid that: don't believe things that are empirically false or morally abhorrent. horsetheory.jpg
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as i informed your dumb rear end before, that is not a thing. also lol at not knowing what empirically false means. boner confessor posted:did the guy ever actually get harassed or are we doing that thing where "harassment" isn't like swatting or group stalking but just someone facing consequences for their past statements was probably just people calling him a moron on twitter.
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did the guy ever actually get harassed or are we doing that thing where "harassment" isn't like swatting or group stalking but just someone facing consequences for their past statements because a lot of these free speech morons crumple at the slightest touch of facing social disapproval for being shitlords
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Fans posted:This whole thing feels like a group of people with no real issues trying desperately to find a reason to be oppressed. but enough about d&d
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