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deadgoon
Dec 4, 2014

by FactsAreUseless

Yinlock posted:

i still say primary republicans

they love anything as long as it's owning libs, and socialism owns libs hard

owning libs is the true class consciousness

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Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
durrr durrrrrrrrr the lectoral college will keep people who are unfit to run the country out and also my teeth are wooden. pardon me, i gotta go get bled to death because i have the sniffles

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

Concerned Citizen posted:

i don't remember the part of the platform that said "every single person who runs as a democrat will agree to everything listed here"

Lmao

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

Yinlock posted:

i still say primary republicans

they love anything as long as it's owning libs, and socialism owns libs hard

lol. the american right does not distinguish between liberalism and socialism at the elite or grassroots level

mormonpartyboat
Jan 14, 2015

by Reene

Raskolnikov38 posted:

nothing about the way the us electoral system is set up inherently prevents viable third parties, the 12th amendment even exists for when third parties take even electoral votes to prevent an outright majority

the presidential election is a massively polarizing element to political discourse. and even then, in an environment that favors third party challengers for a host of other reasons, the only real third parties that exist express regional interests

fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer
It's always been about owning libtards. it also helps that the libtards own themselves a lot of the time too by offering TAX CREDITS FOR COLLEGE ENTREPRENEURS

mormonpartyboat
Jan 14, 2015

by Reene

Al! posted:

durrr durrrrrrrrr the lectoral college will keep people who are unfit to run the country out and also my teeth are wooden. pardon me, i gotta go get bled to death because i have the sniffles

the best thing the founding fathers did was say "hey we could be wrong about this poo poo so here's an amendment process lol" and then everyone immediately beatified them lmao

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler

GalacticAcid posted:

lol. the american right does not distinguish between liberalism and socialism at the elite or grassroots level

it's libs all the way down

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
the founding fathers sucked poo poo

mormonpartyboat
Jan 14, 2015

by Reene

fits my needs posted:

It's always been about owning libtards. it also helps that the libtards own themselves a lot of the time too by offering TAX CREDITS FOR COLLEGE ENTREPRENEURS

*takes notes re: a program to expand to high school entrepreneurs*

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005

Condiv posted:

when they passed the ACA and ripped it out. hth

Maybe they shouldn't have murdered Ted Kennedy.

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

mormonpartyboat posted:

the best thing the founding fathers did was say "hey we could be wrong about this poo poo so here's an amendment process lol" and then everyone immediately beatified them lmao

pardon me if i dont have a lot of respect for guys who wore knee-length breeches tucked into white socks and poo poo in a hole in a stump

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
my favorite argument against single-player/UHC was when pundits who get paid 6 figures to sit around and make incorrect predictions all lamented "the battle for the ACA" like politicians were haggered war veterans and we were sending them back into battle by asking them politely not to murder us

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

Al! posted:

pardon me, i gotta go get bled to death because i have the sniffles

AHCA is gonna be lit, fam.

Ruzihm
Aug 11, 2010

Group up and push mid, proletariat!


ThndrShk2k posted:

Facebook is free despite it's costs because your data is valuable.

Healthcare will be free under Zuck because your data(genome) is valuable

the anime Kado is about an extradimensional being that comes to earth and gives us unlimited energy, the ability to forego sleep, and telekinesis. All so he can enslave us for the incredible amount of data that our lives produce when lived.

what im basically saying is zuck is an anime.

ThndrShk2k
Nov 3, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
Bread Liar

fits my needs posted:

So you think white people are good?

Next thing you'll tell me is that you don't see color and

*white cop executes another black dude*

that race is only a problem if you bring it up
You should not assume things when they are not said.

Obsession in bringing up people's skin color to justify judging them ain't good no matter who you are.

You can't solve a societal problem by perpetuating the problem from a different angle.
It's the reason our politics are garbage between the two parties today.


And in the end if you do have to judge someone, there's plenty of reasons to judge them aside from an uncontrollable trait due to the act of being born.

It's because people are the same
All People are generally garbage.

mormonpartyboat
Jan 14, 2015

by Reene

Al! posted:

pardon me if i dont have a lot of respect for guys who wore knee-length breeches tucked into white socks and poo poo in a hole in a stump

im imagining the founding fathers, but with crocs

mormonpartyboat
Jan 14, 2015

by Reene
benjamin franklin flying a drone into a thunderstorm, angrily tweeting about a so-called voided warranty

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
the one thing that the ffs did right was they eliminated the requirement to wear starched white wigs all the time but they are severely penalized for throwing their pee out their windows and probably thinking prunes are a type of candy

deadgoon
Dec 4, 2014

by FactsAreUseless

Al! posted:

poo poo in a hole in a stump

i thought that was part of ur anti-technology utopia

Zhulik
Nov 14, 2012

The Montreal Star
the founding fathers were syphilitic racists strokeposting about freedom

in many ways they were the original bernie bros

mormonpartyboat
Jan 14, 2015

by Reene

Al! posted:

the one thing that the ffs did right was they eliminated the requirement to wear starched white wigs all the time but they are severely penalized for throwing their pee out their windows and probably thinking prunes are a type of candy

i always love the grant quote that was like hmm yes the founding fathers may have disagreed with this thing but they also probably would have thought steamships and telegrams were witchcraft so hgaf

Subjunctivitis
Oct 12, 2007
Causation or Correlation?

Yinlock posted:

i still say primary republicans

they love anything as long as it's owning libs, and socialism owns libs hard

I'd love to see an "infiltrator" candidate campaign on the family values of free Pre-K-through-college and healthcare, the value of hard work being met with good wages for the working and middle classes, liberty for all via marriage equality and civil rights, and fiscal responsibility by cutting military spending and taxing offshore money to offset the deficit.

How long would it take for this supposed candidate to be recognized as holding leftist-supported viewpoints?

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

mormonpartyboat posted:

the presidential election is a massively polarizing element to political discourse. and even then, in an environment that favors third party challengers for a host of other reasons, the only real third parties that exist express regional interests

my point was that theres nothing in the rules preventing it

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
bad dem alert

https://twitter.com/jstein_vox/status/879766948095176705

mormonpartyboat
Jan 14, 2015

by Reene

quote:

In the case of the war between the States it would have been the exact truth if the South had said,--"We do not want to live with you Northern people any longer; we know our institution of slavery is obnoxious to you, and, as you are growing numerically stronger than we, it may at some time in the future be endangered. So long as you permitted us to control the government, and with the aid of a few friends at the North to enact laws constituting your section a guard against the escape of our property, we were willing to live with you. You have been submissive to our rule heretofore; but it looks now as if you did not intend to continue so, and we will remain in the Union no longer." Instead of this the seceding States cried lustily,--"Let us alone; you have no constitutional power to interfere with us."

Newspapers and people at the North reiterated the cry. Individuals might ignore the constitution; but the Nation itself must not only obey it, but must enforce the strictest construction of that instrument; the construction put upon it by the Southerners themselves. The fact is the constitution did not apply to any such contingency as the one existing from 1861 to 1865. Its framers never dreamed of such a contingency occurring. If they had foreseen it, the probabilities are they would have sanctioned the right of a State or States to withdraw rather than that there should be war between brothers. The framers were wise in their generation and wanted to do the very best possible to secure their own liberty and independence, and that also of their descendants to the latest days.

It is preposterous to suppose that the people of one generation can lay down the best and only rules of government for all who are to come after them, and under unforeseen contingencies. At the time of the framing of our constitution the only physical forces that had been subdued and made to serve man and do his labor, were the currents in the streams and in the air we breathe. Rude machinery, propelled by water power, had been invented; sails to propel ships upon the waters had been set to catch the passing breeze--but the application of stream to propel vessels against both wind and current, and machinery to do all manner of work had not been thought of. The instantaneous transmission of messages around the world by means of electricity would probably at that day have been attributed to witchcraft or a league with the Devil. Immaterial circumstances had changed as greatly as material ones.

We could not and ought not to be rigidly bound by the rules laid down under circumstances so different for emergencies so utterly unanticipated. The fathers themselves would have been the first to declare that their prerogatives were not irrevocable. They would surely have resisted secession could they have lived to see the shape it assumed.

Zhulik
Nov 14, 2012

The Montreal Star
that triangulating sunuvabitch pragmatist!

SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

Al! posted:

durrr durrrrrrrrr the lectoral college will keep people who are unfit to run the country out and also my teeth are wooden. pardon me, i gotta go get bled to death because i have the sniffles

Should have went with dysentery for the deep cut

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

GalacticAcid posted:

lol. the american right does not distinguish between liberalism and socialism at the elite or grassroots level

their only distinguishment is "does it make libs mad y/n"

do a dem/republican style rebranding if you have to

socialist hero ronald reagan always wanted single-payer, gently caress it.

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008



hes an independent tho

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
bernie sanders is a liberal

mormonpartyboat
Jan 14, 2015

by Reene

Raskolnikov38 posted:

my point was that theres nothing in the rules preventing it

there's a whole pile of forces preventing a national level third party, because if (say) the dsa gets that powerful, the democrats will just cease to exist except maybe as a regional power


ed: besides, the dsa should have revolution in their blood, even if its just boring civil revolution

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Subjunctivitis posted:

I'd love to see an "infiltrator" candidate campaign on the family values of free Pre-K-through-college and healthcare, the value of hard work being met with good wages for the working and middle classes, liberty for all via marriage equality and civil rights, and fiscal responsibility by cutting military spending and taxing offshore money to offset the deficit.

How long would it take for this supposed candidate to be recognized as holding leftist-supported viewpoints?

i mean this is most of what the republican base THINKS republicans do already so it wouldn't be that difficult

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod



bad dems have already made it clear they won't pass singlepayer, and they claim they'll go for public option, so lets expose that as a lie too!

bad dems support nothing but letting the poor die under a decaying government

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Raskolnikov38 posted:

my point was that theres nothing in the rules preventing it

*flips through large law book that, upon closer inspection, is just the script of air bud* it checks out

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Yinlock posted:

their only distinguishment is "does it make libs mad y/n"

do a dem/republican style rebranding if you have to

socialist hero ronald reagan always wanted single-payer, gently caress it.

that last one is going to be hard sell if anyone still has that 78 of him ranting about it

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

Ace of Baes posted:

honestly if the dems dont get taken over (possible) or adopt a ton of progressive platforms and not gently caress over their own party members (very unlikely) the party is going to die and erode away anyways, it lost to Trump and can lose again in 2020, and if it does they'll be able to run a polished version of trump in 2024, it doesnt get any better lmao

"but trump will be in jail by then"
yeah im sure the GOP house is going to start impeachment hearings any day now

Ya, it's not like them finding a polished trump facsimile is a done thing but if they did, holy lol.

deadgoon
Dec 4, 2014

by FactsAreUseless

GalacticAcid posted:

bernie sanders is a liberal

and that is why he LOST

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Raskolnikov38 posted:

that last one is going to be hard sell if anyone still has that 78 of him ranting about it

fake news/he was joking/look at these jangling keys

as mr reagan was always fond of saying, the workers must seize the means of production

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WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo

deadgoon posted:

and that is why he LOST

like a dog

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