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Itzena posted:Next Doctor is going to be played by Pearl Mackie and she's going to take that form as a reminder that the Master is irredeemable, and that promises should be kept. Nah, too predictable. He'll regenerate into Bill's mum.
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I recently read this kind of "alternate history" story about different actors playing the Doctor, and got to thinking, if the Daleks had never appeared in Doctor Who, would it have lasted? I'm pretty sure the Daleks were what "made" the show in its very early days.
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Jun 27, 2017 21:40
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jivjov posted:Yeah, even knowing the Cyberman reveal was coming, the hospital full of partial converts only saying "pain pain pain" and "kill me" was genuinely unsettling. I thought it was "Die"-"Me", but yeah, it was genuinely fantastic.
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Jun 27, 2017 22:27
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I want an alternate history where Mr Razor was the disguise of Harriet Jones, former Prime Minister.
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Jun 27, 2017 22:34
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TinTower posted:I want an alternate history where Mr Razor was the disguise of Harriet Jones, former Prime Minister. Yes, we know who you are! Aha but (rips off mask) DO YOU?
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Jun 27, 2017 22:43
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Murderion posted:Nah, too predictable. He'll regenerate into Bill's mum. This would be great.
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Jun 27, 2017 22:55
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I like how this episode finally closed the book on what The Doctors real name is.
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thrawn527 posted:This is true, but, and I never would have imagined this, I really enjoyed how RTD the "Prime Minister" line and delivery was. It felt...familiar, and comfortable. Haha yeah, also loved that little b-movie zoom-in on his face after the reveal  Hearing his music was great too.
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Jerusalem posted:Haha yeah, also loved that little b-movie zoom-in on his face after the reveal I agree with some of the complaints about the promotional materials spoiling it, but I really loved that it was obvious who the Master was. The thinly veiled joy at the campy, weird-accent disguise is just fun. He feels like this awesome Delgado/Ainley/Simm Master mix and I really look forward to watching Michelle Gomez riff on it. On another note, rewatching the old show and getting to School Reunion has made me come to the following conclusion: K-9 is a joke that never gets old and John Leeson has excellent comedic timing. The "We... are in... a car" scene made me want to watch the Fourth Doctor era again.
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AndyElusive posted:I like how this episode finally closed the book on what The Doctors real name is. Only if it makes people really mad.
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Jun 28, 2017 01:50
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Cojawfee posted:Only if it makes people really mad. I like it either way, it was a good joke, and it's exactly the kind of "Wait, really?" sort of pranks that people pull on the person they think is the newbie in the group.
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docbeard posted:For the record: I know Three only has like one audio that features them The Blue Tooth is a Three Companion Chronicle that actually does something a little different with the Cybermen concept. EDIT - Oh, going by the Wikipedia page, that's probably the one you were talking about. Still worth a listen! After The War fucked around with this message at 02:10 on Jun 28, 2017 |
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Jun 28, 2017 02:08
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Is the Doctor and Bill's conversation about the Doctor's gender a tangent we should pay attention to?
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Jun 28, 2017 03:19
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Shneak posted:Is the Doctor and Bill's conversation about the Doctor's gender a tangent we should pay attention to? BBC has no interest in casting a woman in the role, they're dead-set on hiring another Tennant because they think that'll be more marketable. This isn't personal speculation, it's basically been confirmed by several sources close to production including someone who posts here.
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Jun 28, 2017 03:24
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Yeah it was probably just priming new viewers to be aware that the Master could be a man, so it's not out of left field.
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I felt it was clear they were covering fire for when they hire Tennant '18.
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Shneak posted:Is the Doctor and Bill's conversation about the Doctor's gender a tangent we should pay attention to? Whatever issues anyone might have with Moffat, I think that was actually quite good. The Doctor's high and mighty assertion that they were well beyond the petty human concepts of gender acknowledges how backward the whole thing is, but Bill's comeback (and the Doctor's inability to actually address it) allow us to accept that the longstanding show hasn't always been (and maybe isn't even now) particularly progressive with regard to sex or gender. It's a way of stating what the ideal is while acknowledging that any writer embedded in this culture is not going to reach that ideal. Moffat's frequent comments into a hot mic make it easy to interpret his own writing as obnoxiously obtuse when it comes to those kinds of issues, but I can't say, after watching an episode in which the Doctor tells Mickey he screamed "like a little girl, I'm talking pigtails," that Russell Davies, script for script, is much better.
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I've always found it interesting that while One didn't recognise the Daleks on first meeting them, he totally knew about the Mondasians, and seemed pretty terrified at the idea.
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Mind Loving Owl posted:I've always found it interesting that while One didn't recognise the Daleks on first meeting them, he totally knew about the Mondasians, and seemed pretty terrified at the idea. I've always chalked that up to him changing time and history. Especially going out of control in the TARDIS like he was. You can see how he changes time by just watching the show in order. Before he showed up, the Daleks did not know that life existed beyond the stars. After he shows up, they KNOW that there is non Dalek life out there, and it must be EXTERMINATED. The Cybermen were already space fairing folk before the Doctor met them, so the Time Lords knew about them ahead of time. Daleks? They stuck to their dumb little dead world and did gently caress all, who cares.
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glowing-fish posted:What do you think Missy's arc is going to be like? I'm really curious about this and have no clue which direction they will take it. Unless there is a super-convoluted plan unveiled where we learn Missy has orchestrated the entire season then her turning on the Doctor might feel cheap. However if she is genuinely changed it's a dangerous thing to do one episode before Moffat leaves the show.
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Senor Tron posted:I'm really curious about this and have no clue which direction they will take it. I don't think it's THAT dangerous. In RTD's final episode the Master nobly sacrificed himself to send Rassilon and the rest of the Time Lords back into the Time War, and by the end of Moffat's tenure Missy's back, so's the John Simm Master and so's Gallifrey. Chibnall will just do what everyone working on Who does, take the bits of the show's history he likes and sideline or ignore the bits he doesn't.
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Fil5000 posted:Chibnall will just do what everyone working on Who does, take the bits of the show's history he likes and sideline or ignore the bits he doesn't. And we all know what Chibnall likes:  
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Senor Tron posted:I'm really curious about this and have no clue which direction they will take it. It's always possible that she could full on die, but it turns out there's like nine Masters between her and Simm.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:BBC has no interest in casting a woman in the role, they're dead-set on hiring another Tennant because they think that'll be more marketable. They're probably right. 
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Jun 28, 2017 09:42
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Cojawfee posted:Tennant with a Scottish accent. Tennant but weirder looking. What I'm saying: Bring back Matt Smith.
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Jun 28, 2017 09:44
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Mind Loving Owl posted:It's always possible that she could full on die, but it turns out there's like nine Masters between her and Simm. I'm idly wondering if she's actually a pre-Master regeneration and that's why she doesn't remember the current events, but that seems unlikely.
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Fil5000 posted:I'm idly wondering if she's actually a pre-Master regeneration and that's why she doesn't remember the current events, but that seems unlikely. Standard Multi-Doctor rules apply; The newer ones always forget after the fact, only the youngest one remembers the whole thing.
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Fil5000 posted:I'm idly wondering if she's actually a pre-Master regeneration and that's why she doesn't remember the current events, but that seems unlikely. Didn't the Simms master specifically say he's worried about his future self though?
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AttitudeAdjuster posted:Didn't the Simms master specifically say he's worried about his future self though? Yes. Also he's locked in as the 'earliest' one, as YANA was who he was right from the end of the Time War.
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AttitudeAdjuster posted:Didn't the Simms master specifically say he's worried about his future self though? He also mentioned that it took him a while to figure out who Missy was, though. He figures out she's him, he happens to remember that he was never a woman, or that particular woman if you prefer, therefore, future incarnation.
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Master: Is she.... is she The Rani? Missy does something competent and actually achieves something Master: No wait something doesn't add up...
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Lampsacus posted:Has the 13th Doctor's name been released? No
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Jerusalem posted:Master: Is she.... is she The Rani? I think the Rani's hit rate is similar to the Master's, to be fair. She managed to take over that planet from Time and the Rani and enslave the occupants, and she successfully removed the need to sleep from an entire planet in Mark of the Rani, which is what she was trying to do. She probably would have been successful in getting all the brain juice she needed if it weren't for the Master showing up and buggering it up. Mind Loving Owl posted:He also mentioned that it took him a while to figure out who Missy was, though. He figures out she's him, he happens to remember that he was never a woman, or that particular woman if you prefer, therefore, future incarnation. Yeah, I realised as I hit post that it wasn't really that likely. Moffat might still pull some timey-wimey, Blinovitch effect nonsense but probably not. Fil5000 fucked around with this message at 10:36 on Jun 28, 2017 |
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I like the idea of Missy not being Simm's direct successor, but I also really want a scene where Missy gets tired of dealing with Simm and kills him to create a second Missy. 
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Mind Loving Owl posted:It's always possible that she could full on die, but it turns out there's like nine Masters between her and Simm. Also worth remembering (though I can't imagine this ever coming up at this point) that Delgado was the final regeneration of the old-school Master (everything after that was him finding crazier and more awful ways to cheat death and stealing bodies up til, I guess, the Time Lords gave him a new set of regenerations as payment for his help during the Time War), so there could, in theory, be twelve others running around in history.
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I thought Delgado and Beevers were separate regenerations?
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Lampsacus posted:Has the 13th Doctor's name been released? Yes, it was in the last episode. His name is "Doctor Who". 
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Doctor Spaceman posted:I thought Delgado and Beevers were separate regenerations? Apparently there's at least two versions of how Delgado becomes meltyface, and in one he regenerates first and in the other he just gets melted.
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