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| Labour |
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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
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To be fair, I'm not any more! (I'll take blindfold, cigarette and a case of jam please.)
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Jun 28, 2017 22:09
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willie_dee posted:All the Tories on my Facebook are claiming that Labour were in charge when the cladding was put on and inspections were cut, is this the case? Yeah, and Tony Blair always had far more in common with the likes of May than Corbyn. Tell them times change, party policies change, and socialism will never rest until every aggressor of the proletariat lays dead, stricken from history forever e; there's definitely something weird going on with every building failing, regardless of council, and someone in the thread raised the point that there were legitimate reasons to consider the faulty cladding, there's not really been any clearly expressed reason why everyone made the buildings flammable at once. It'll likely come out during the inquiry. Spangly A fucked around with this message at 22:11 on Jun 28, 2017 |
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Jun 28, 2017 22:09
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willie_dee posted:All the Tories on my Facebook are claiming that Labour were in charge when the cladding was put on and inspections were cut, is this the case? All the cladding on the hundreds of buildings? I think not
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Jun 28, 2017 22:11
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Actually you'll find that the Previous Labour Government is also responsible for terrorism, the global financial crisis, and the conservative party
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Jun 28, 2017 22:12
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willie_dee posted:All the Tories on my Facebook are claiming that Labour were in charge when the cladding was put on and inspections were cut, is this the case? On Grenfell? No it was refurbished 2 years ago. Maybe inspections and regulations were changed under New Labour but it's Tory ideology and austerity which has cut council budgets and building regulations and that'll have a major impact on how flammable the buildings are today.
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Jun 28, 2017 22:12
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Local government has been cut so heavily that it's basically inevitable fire inspections have been cut. And as May said the problem isn't the regulations, it's that they haven't been enforced properly for the past seven years. e: in addition the Conservatives had the Lachanal House inquest as a warning that they could've acted on in particular, which they failed to do.
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Jun 28, 2017 22:14
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The gutting of council inspection services that led to the fire is 100% on the tories, as is not dealing with an incredibly poor decision, or realising such a decision was made at all, and not providing proper inspections, throughout seven years of government.
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Jun 28, 2017 22:14
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willie_dee posted:All the Tories on my Facebook are claiming that Labour were in charge when the cladding was put on and inspections were cut, is this the case? No they're full of poo poo on both accounts.
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Jun 28, 2017 22:14
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willie_dee posted:All the Tories on my Facebook are claiming that Labour were in charge when the cladding was put on and inspections were cut, is this the case?
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Jun 28, 2017 22:15
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namesake posted:On Grenfell? No it was refurbished 2 years ago. T. May said the regulations were fine, so even if it was labour's regulations, may supports them. She also said they weren't followed which jam man followed up with "I wonder why, has anybody got any idea who cuts local council funding by 40%? Anybody? Hmm mm!" e: beaten like a tory caught snorting coke off a hooker's tits.
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Jun 28, 2017 22:15
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Labour aren't the ones ejaculating into their pants about cutting red tape and how it's such a huge hindrance to housebuilding (it isn't). I see the whole thing as a problem of successive governments and the idea that you can allow people to certify their own work rather than have it vigorously inspected by a government department employee is bollocks. The emergence of building inspection firms that are known to be "easy" to get approvals from proves the whole system is hosed. The Tories can absolutely be blamed for their attitude of "what the gently caress do fire brigades know about fires", though. There's a rich vein of "I know best because I am an MP" running through that party. Thanks Ants fucked around with this message at 22:20 on Jun 28, 2017 |
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Jun 28, 2017 22:15
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namesake posted:On Grenfell? No it was refurbished 2 years ago. Don't forget that the cladding is only part of the picture. Grenfell is the most apocalyptic tower fire we've had in a while, and that's because the Conservative council ignored the fire department, refused to deal with the random surges in the electricity grid, refused to fireproof the gas pipes, and basically did everything they could to turn the place into a funeral pyre for undesirables.
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Jun 28, 2017 22:16
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willie_dee posted:All the Tories on my Facebook are claiming that Labour were in charge when the cladding was put on and inspections were cut, is this the case? No. Kensington Council has been Tory forever. e: beaten like a Tory in Brussels, I love this thread
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Jun 28, 2017 22:16
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willie_dee posted:All the Tories on my Facebook are claiming that Labour were in charge when the cladding was put on and inspections were cut, is this the case? On the face of it that seems a completely ridiculous claim. The refurb took place over 2014-16. In any event, inspections would be the responsibility of the borough council which has had a conservative majority since its creation in 1963. How to argue with the claims would depend on what specific hairs they're splitting in order to implicate Labour.
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Jun 28, 2017 22:20
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willie_dee posted:All the Tories on my Facebook are claiming that Labour were in charge when the cladding was put on and inspections were cut, is this the case? Or just ask them why the Tory led council repeatedly try to shut down any attempt to remedy the situation, why they even threatened legal threats against people who voiced concern over it, why they were the ones that installed the cladding in the first place despite every bit of evidence telling them that it was a terrible idea, why they went completely awol when the fire started and why they were more concerned with saving their jobs than actually loving doing them. Then ask them why the Tories are so completely poo poo at government, because by their own admittance they're so bad at their jobs they can't fix any issues even after 7 years in power. learnincurve posted:I have thing for you then...
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Jun 28, 2017 22:21
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The only thing I can think of is if they mean Sadiq Khan, and I'm not even sure if he was in at the time.
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Jun 28, 2017 22:21
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The reason they're only reporting 80 presumed dead is because of this http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40434741 quote:"What I can tell you is there are 129 flats inside Grenfell Tower. We, the police, have spoken to at least one occupant of 106 of those 129 flats," Det Supt McCormack said. They're having to guess at the number of occupants in those 23 flats, plus the 18 they know have died in flats where they've spoken to survivors to get a count of how many people were in there. They're also saying that the remaining flats are in such a state its highly likely that there will be people who's remains will never be recovered. This is also why the 'official' death toll isn't being reported.
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Jun 28, 2017 22:24
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Call me stupid (please don't) but what's with the jam thing anyway? Is it jammy bugger or something else that I'm missing.
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Jun 28, 2017 22:28
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Corbyn's hobby is making jam.
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Jun 28, 2017 22:29
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Pissflaps posted:*record scratch*
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Jun 28, 2017 22:30
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Innerguard posted:Call me stupid (please don't) but what's with the jam thing anyway? Is it jammy bugger or something else that I'm missing. https://twitter.com/DanielHewittITV/status/849945265561841664
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Jun 28, 2017 22:30
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Innerguard posted:Call me stupid (please don't) but what's with the jam thing anyway? Is it jammy bugger or something else that I'm missing. It really is just as simple as that JC likes making jam. Personally, I'd have a higher regard for the man if he was making chutney, but hey.
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Jun 28, 2017 22:30
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Darth Walrus posted:Farron's Undead Legion still landing the hits. Oh my god I loving wish the lib dems had gone with this for their branding, armies of libdems showing up with their coats buttoned around their chins and skidding around the floor with giant swords.
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Jun 28, 2017 22:38
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My landlord while I was a postgrad in Edinburgh was trying to convince the council that there were only two occupants in the flat instead of three to avoid extra fees and licenses. Since all three of us got mail from the council I'm not sure if/how he got away with it, but I guess technically one of us was living there illegally. Probably me because I moved in last. It was a two bedroom flat but he'd turned the living room into a third, massive bedroom so the two of us who were unlucky had pokey little rooms with no carpet and nowhere to hang out except the kitchen table. The only reason we got the fire extinguisher we were legally meant to have was because I demanded it. Even then we never got the legally required fire door. He wanted us to pay our rent in cash every month. I told him to do one and paid through bank deposits every month like a normal person but as far as I know my flatmates went along with it. We were kinda stuck cos we'd have nowhere else to go on short notice. Especially my flatmates who were all EU nationals, whereas I could have gone home a few cities over if need be. Last I heard he jacked the rent up a ton for the Fringe period after I left, then started renting it to family or something. On top of all this, every single time he came by the flat he was illegally parked in the private parking spaces outside the building. In conclusion, landlords are scum.
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Jun 28, 2017 22:40
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My girlfriend currently rents her place under the radar, I'm not very happy about it but the landlords do seem fine apart from that and the price isn't bad. But I'm not happy about her having no proof that she actually lives there and rents the place.
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Jun 28, 2017 22:44
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OwlFancier posted:My girlfriend currently rents her place under the radar, I'm not very happy about it but the landlords do seem fine apart from that and the price isn't bad. But I'm not happy about her having no proof that she actually lives there and rents the place. Fylingdales is miles away from anywhere though.
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Jun 28, 2017 22:49
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http://www.newstatesman.com/culture/books/2017/06/harry-potter-gay-porn-hermione-ginnyquote:At the age of 13, I’d never read any erotica – until I discovered Hermione/Ginny fan fiction I just want y'all to know that your country is responsible for the nerd-culture-fication of the liberal-left, and should feel appropriately ashamed of itself
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Jun 28, 2017 22:51
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Pissflaps posted:Fylingdales is miles away from anywhere though. Lmao quality.
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Jun 28, 2017 22:52
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This Labour public sector pay vote getting rejected is getting loads of news coverage. It looks like a very good play by Labour because it's going to be super easy to find people praising the emergency services and then see that they voted for a real-terms pay cut.
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Jun 28, 2017 23:02
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On that subject https://twitter.com/sarahwollaston/status/880143092103491584 I bet you can guess which way she voted before she made this tweet.
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Jun 28, 2017 23:04
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serious gaylord posted:On that subject *googles party affiliation* checks out
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Jun 28, 2017 23:06
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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serious gaylord posted:On that subject The comments on this are great. This vote gives Labour endless scope for attacking the Tories rhetoric about the emergency services, as well as claiming the credit when the cap eventually gets ditched.
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Jun 28, 2017 23:07
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Newsnight are pretty much leading with "when is May going"
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Jun 28, 2017 23:15
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Lobster God posted:Please indicate your preferences below: You forgot to ask what sort of wall he wanted, nice modern concrete, classic Victorian brick or rustic traditional stone.
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Jun 28, 2017 23:16
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OwlFancier posted:Oh my god I loving wish the lib dems had gone with this for their branding, armies of libdems showing up with their coats buttoned around their chins and skidding around the floor with giant swords. And yet it was Labour who were locked in an endless cycle of stabbing each other up while the poison swamp around them slowly got overrun by the forces of darkness and went even further to poo poo
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Jun 28, 2017 23:18
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feedmegin posted:You forgot to ask what sort of wall he wanted, nice modern concrete, classic Victorian brick or rustic traditional stone. Landlords get polyethylene cladding.
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Jun 28, 2017 23:21
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Guavanaut posted:Modern concrete is for bankers, classic Victorian brick is for oldschool industry owning Tories, rustic traditional stone is for aristocratic rural landowners. You know, I do wonder if the People's Guards have heard of ricochets sometimes.
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Jun 28, 2017 23:26
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Thin ally plates with PE between them should be fine to shoot, any decent rifle bullet will breech the first plate. Probably the second too. It's the rustic traditional stone I'd worry about.
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Jun 28, 2017 23:39
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Thanks Ants posted:This Labour public sector pay vote getting rejected is getting loads of news coverage. It looks like a very good play by Labour because it's going to be super easy to find people praising the emergency services and then see that they voted for a real-terms pay cut. Fake edit: Kuntsberg sounds antisemitic, I probably shouldn't do that. What's that offensive Afrikaan word that sounds like "kuus", maybe that'd work better? (real edit: grammar) Borrovan fucked around with this message at 23:46 on Jun 28, 2017 |
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Jun 28, 2017 23:40
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I mean, if this isn't a sign of the way things are going... vote breakdown
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