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If the rumor that LA is offering multiple years to Thornton is true that's a big pass from me.
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Hip Now and Wow! posted:I think Bonino's will end up making somewhere close to 4 million a year for 3 years. Unless he stays with the pens and give some a discount. They are going to want Sprong + and thats a non starter for me.
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Jun 29, 2017 01:05
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I would very happily trade Sprong and Maatta for Duchene Shame the Avs aren't that stupid anymore
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Krime posted:They are going to want Sprong + and thats a non starter for me. Hahaha what the heck.
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Yeah that sounds like it would be a huge win for the pens.
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Teemu Pokemon posted:I loving knew it. I loving know you Holland you loving jackass. Can't wait until he ups the offer 6 years, 5.5m per.
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Krime posted:They are going to want Sprong + and thats a non starter for me. the penguins have so many good wingers that they were healthy scratching carl hagelin and conor sheary in the playoffs and seriously considering doing the same to guentzel, as much as i'd like to see sprong pan out and play well for the penguins he's exactly the kind of player they can afford to trade. poo poo if they wanted to trade sheary or guentzel for a forward like duchene or an Actually Good defenseman i'd say loving go for it
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Jun 29, 2017 01:18
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Yeah man I sure want to get (good player) in exchange for (my team's spare parts)
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Matt Zerella posted:If the rumor that LA is offering multiple years to Thornton is true that's a big pass from me. if the multiple that we're talking about is "2" then i'm ok with that. but everyone's been saying thornton wants 3
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Jun 29, 2017 01:47
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Well now that I know you can trade for expansion drafted players, I look forward to the Predators striking out on every free agent then trading back for James Neal
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Jun 29, 2017 01:56
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Jesus, pens fans cup drunk or just delusional?
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It seems insane to me that the Avs are trying to unload Duchene, the dude is great. Did he ask for the trade or was it the Avs FO that was trying to move him for whatever reason.
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Duchene looked like a world beater when he was scoring 70 points ... four years ago. The three season since then have kind of taken the shine off for the Avs. 41 points this season. Trading him actually makes a lot of sense in that his rep is probably better than he is and the return could be very legit. He's got two seasons left on this deal and even if he turns it around, it probably won't happen in Colorado.
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Jun 29, 2017 02:21
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pseudodragon posted:There needs to be a term to distinguish between players who are poo poo on because they are really bad and you wouldn't want at an price and players who are salary cap bad who are decent or even good players but get poo poo on because they are hurting their team by making dumb money. toews is the captain of the latter group. hell, just call it toewsian
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Pornographic Memory posted:the penguins have so many good wingers that they were healthy scratching carl hagelin and conor sheary in the playoffs and seriously considering doing the same to guentzel, as much as i'd like to see sprong pan out and play well for the penguins he's exactly the kind of player they can afford to trade. poo poo if they wanted to trade sheary or guentzel for a forward like duchene or an Actually Good defenseman i'd say loving go for it
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mastershakeman posted:toews is the captain of the latter group. hell, just call it toewsian drat, I knew there was someone I was forgetting. Also Zajac or Kopitar if last year is a sign of things to come
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JoelJoel posted:Jesus, pens fans cup drunk or just delusional? Well duchene for maatta + sprong + pick was speculated about in the most recent 30 thoughts so its more grounded than random hfboards ideas at least
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Jordan7hm posted:Duchene looked like a world beater when he was scoring 70 points ... four years ago. The three season since then have kind of taken the shine off for the Avs. 41 points this season. Trading him actually makes a lot of sense in that his rep is probably better than he is and the return could be very legit. He's got two seasons left on this deal and even if he turns it around, it probably won't happen in Colorado.
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Jun 29, 2017 02:34
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Yeah and Sidney Crosby had like 19 points in 30 games before the Penguins finally fired Mike Johnston. poo poo was real bad in Colorado last year
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Jun 29, 2017 02:40
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Duchene's shooting percentage and shot rates have been pretty consistent until last year, the only bad pattern in his points is his rate of assists is steadily declining, which can probably be attributed to spending most of his time centering Matt Nieto and JT Compher. He's 26, I'd say he's as solid a bet as any to continue producing well for a while and I bet his assist and shot numbers tick back up if he starts playing with non-garbage line mates.
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Duchene actually had decent possession stats (relatively speaking) for the first time in his career. He managed above 55% CF with Landeskog with 38% d-zone starts. He was dragged down by an awful 43% playing even more d-zone starts with Grigorenko. I am not a coach but I don't entirely understand why one would try to make a checking line out of Duchene and Grigorenko.
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Hip Now and Wow! posted:Jake and sheary are like 1.5 million combined against the cap next year, I think? It's hard to trade that level of cheap production away, unless you know you have something else coming up to replace it. Jake is about 735k but Sheary is an RFA. It'll be really interesting to see his new contract. He's only 2 years from being a UFA.
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Jordan7hm posted:Jake is about 735k but Sheary is an RFA. It'll be really interesting to see his new contract. He's only 2 years from being a UFA.
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Hip Now and Wow! posted:Rumors today were that the Pens were interested in Duchesn again. The talk was a Prospect (or maybe 2, or some draft pick/prospect combination) and Maatta for him. I don't think the horseshoe is big enough for the Pens to pull that off (e- in that form). Which is why they're going to shed a not as good as he once was Dman for a 70 point center to play third line center. 
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Suspicious posted:Yeah man I sure want to get (good player) in exchange for (my team's spare parts) This but not unironically
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Jun 29, 2017 05:46
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P sure you'd have to pay someone to take maatta at this point.
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Jun 29, 2017 05:52
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Found this reviewing the trades in the last thread: https://twitter.com/eddielack/status/878287185757302784 Eddie Lack likes the trades as much as we do.
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JoelJoel posted:P sure you'd have to pay someone to take maatta at this point. you would think so, but then again, NHL GMs there's about to be a bidding war for dan girardi for christ's sake
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And emelin/Sbisa both got selected and apparently have value. I concede the point.
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JoelJoel posted:P sure you'd have to pay someone to take maatta at this point. I'm really hoping that this is the year he rebounds and looks like a guy who is worth what he's getting paid.
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Ken Holland, professional rear end, gave two year 2-way deals to both Brian Lashoff and Dylan McIlrath
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CBJSprague24 posted:I don't think the horseshoe is big enough for the Pens to pull that off (e- in that form). Also, you probably shouldn't stand outside for too long, you are going to start attracting deer.
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https://twitter.com/ChrisMuellerPGH/status/880386318785753088 Its sad how true this is for most yinzers
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JoelJoel posted:P sure you'd have to pay someone to take maatta at this point. Not that it mattered since they'd made a deal for Vegas to take MAF months ago, but the Penguins exposed 3 forwards to protect Maatta which is pretty amazing
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Hip Now and Wow! posted:He hasn't been a 70 point center for 3 years. Currently he is a 41 point center that, if I am not mistaking, has requested to be traded. To be honest I don't think it will happen, but it isn't like they would be trading pocket lint for him. A legitimate prospect, a first rounder, and a young DMan that underperformed last year but has big upside for a young center that under performed last year isn't as lopsided as you make it seem. An overpaid dman, a prospect and the 30th pick isn't actually very much for a first line player but you do you man.
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achillesforever6 posted:https://twitter.com/ChrisMuellerPGH/status/880386318785753088 It's not even just yinzer yokels, it's Mark Madden and Mark Madden Lite Colin Dunlap. If Kevin Stevens isn't famous he'd be in prison. He's lucky to be alive tbh, his drug issues are by no means recent or slight.
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Neodoomium posted:Ken Holland, professional rear end, gave two year 2-way deals to both Brian Lashoff and Dylan McIlrath We should really savor this because "at worst, this will have no impact on the club's success or failure" is the best we can hope for.
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Hip Now and Wow! posted:A legitimate prospect, a first rounder, and a young DMan that underperformed last year but has big upside for a young center that under performed last year isn't as lopsided as you make it seem. If the stars align Sprong will have a handful of 40 point seasons in his career. That's if everything goes right. He's a good but not amazing prospect. If you can get a legitimate top line forward for him, you make that move in a second. Duchene had just completed a 67 point NHL season at the age Sprong is now. Sprong was ranked 49th among prospects not in the NHL in February. He's like a B+ level type at best. http://www.tsn.ca/test1-1.677389 ThinkTank fucked around with this message at 14:44 on Jun 29, 2017 |
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https://twitter.com/StapeNewsday/status/880423426288230400 What the gently caress? What was that Isles offer again....?
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