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EmmyOk
Aug 11, 2013

gimme the GOD drat candy posted:

his nen beast is totally made up of women he killed. like, not their physical parts of course, but the form of any body parts he found memorable all jumbled together.

Yeah I only noticed the high heels when I looked at it on the wiki

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Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Wark Say posted:

It's less that he's not going against strong opponents anymore and more... I dunno, it seemed like he was done just playing with his prey? Which he did a bunch with the MC's at respective points.

hisoka was def just killing them since they were in the way

Silver2195
Apr 4, 2012
I'm actually going to defend Hisoka a little here and say that he only kills people who have "assumed the risk" on some level (Hunter Exam candidates, Blacklist Hunters, Heaven's Arena fighters, etc.). I don't remember him ever killing normal civilians.

Mango Polo
Aug 4, 2007
Why did Sarkov say not to look? It's not like she'd have much of a choice when it's her boss right there.

Oh Snapple!
Dec 27, 2005

I feel like it's supposed to have some of her features but that may just be a terrible sense of association on my part.

TriffTshngo
Mar 28, 2010

Don't get it twisted who your enemies are.

Silver2195 posted:

I'm actually going to defend Hisoka a little here and say that he only kills people who have "assumed the risk" on some level (Hunter Exam candidates, Blacklist Hunters, Heaven's Arena fighters, etc.). I don't remember him ever killing normal civilians.

Like I said, I don't think he seeks it out and I would say probably tries to avoid it if possible, but he wouldn't exactly feel bad about it if he had to.

EmmyOk
Aug 11, 2013

Mango Polo posted:

Why did Sarkov say not to look? It's not like she'd have much of a choice when it's her boss right there.

I think it's a mistranslation and the actual translation will be closer to "don't look surprised" or something like that. If she reacted to it immediately it Tserriednich would guess that she has nen even if he can't see the creature himself. It didn't matter in the end because she chose to reveal she had nen but perhaps Sarkov was giving her an out e.g. "don't react therefore you can pretend to be ignorant of nen" because he too realised she had not hope of reforming Tserriednich.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
she is fully aware that being a woman who has caught his notice is an incredibly bad position to be in, even without nen beasts and the possibility of empowering a serial killer with magic powers.

Genocyber
Jun 4, 2012

gimme the GOD drat candy posted:

she is fully aware that being a woman who has caught his notice is an incredibly bad position to be in, even without nen beasts and the possibility of empowering a serial killer with magic powers.

Tserried's supposed to be a genius, right? I get the feeling that if she even does the "teaching the wrong type of Nen" that Wing did or something similar he's probably going to figure it out for himself, and that's not going to be good for anyone, least of all her.

Blackheart
Mar 22, 2013

The way the king mentions a pure strength beast wouldn't cut it, I wouldn't be surprised if the first prince's is just that and he ends up falling soon.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007

Blackheart posted:

The way the king mentions a pure strength beast wouldn't cut it, I wouldn't be surprised if the first prince's is just that and he ends up falling soon.

his beast isn't particularly bulky or muscular. most of them you just look at and think "oh yeah, that works I guess", but his is a little off. also while 8 and 6 were superficially similar, it is now obvious that 6 is actually way more hosed up.

EmmyOk
Aug 11, 2013

gimme the GOD drat candy posted:

she is fully aware that being a woman who has caught his notice is an incredibly bad position to be in, even without nen beasts and the possibility of empowering a serial killer with magic powers.

I don't think that explains Sarkov's comment though and the second part i.e. the serial killing part is exactly why she would be in a bad position normally.

I'm really curious as to what kinds of abilities the other Nen Beasts will have considering that they have to attack indirectly. We've seen blood-draining and possession so I hope the others are really odd too. I wonder if Halkenburg is also responsible for his own dead guards like Woble probably is.

cgfreak
Jan 2, 2013
What the gently caress Togashi :stare:

Is he smoking weed to cope with his back pain or something because goddamn

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

cgfreak posted:

What the gently caress Togashi :stare:

Is he smoking weed to cope with his back pain or something because goddamn

weed inhibits imagination so

Rangpur
Dec 31, 2008

I completely forgot Nen wasn't just a thing everyone in the world knew about already. Comes of the last couple arcs (that is, the last decade of the comic) revolving entirely around people who already knew about it. The Hunter's Association must do a real good job covering that poo poo up.

Shugojin
Sep 6, 2007

THE TAIL THAT BURNS TWICE AS BRIGHT...


IIRC it's a pain in the butt to develop and most people have basically no talent for it anyway

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007

EmmyOk posted:

I don't think that explains Sarkov's comment though and the second part i.e. the serial killing part is exactly why she would be in a bad position normally.

I'm really curious as to what kinds of abilities the other Nen Beasts will have considering that they have to attack indirectly. We've seen blood-draining and possession so I hope the others are really odd too. I wonder if Halkenburg is also responsible for his own dead guards like Woble probably is.

before, she was one of his many bodyguards. just a face in the crowd, unlikely to draw his notice. ts~nich is royalty, so in normal circumstance the help would be beneath him. his nen teacher, though? that's another thing entirely.

Schubalts
Nov 26, 2007

People say bigger is better.

But for the first time in my life, I think I've gone too far.

Shugojin posted:

IIRC it's a pain in the butt to develop and most people have basically no talent for it anyway

Most people who develop Nen do so completely unconsciously. Wing used Olympic-tier athletes as an example, but Komugi was one example we personally see. Her Nen came about because she desperately needed to be, and stay, extremely good at gungi, and it's partially why she was so good that even Meruem couldn't beat her, but she had no idea what Nen even was.

EmmyOk
Aug 11, 2013

gimme the GOD drat candy posted:

before, she was one of his many bodyguards. just a face in the crowd, unlikely to draw his notice. ts~nich is royalty, so in normal circumstance the help would be beneath him. his nen teacher, though? that's another thing entirely.

I definitely agree that she's freaked out by his attention (rightfully so) but I am keen to see the official translation of Sarkov's line because as it is now it's very odd. Even given what you say why would he warn her to not look.

Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

Schubalts posted:

Most people who develop Nen do so completely unconsciously. Wing used Olympic-tier athletes as an example, but Komugi was one example we personally see. Her Nen came about because she desperately needed to be, and stay, extremely good at gungi, and it's partially why she was so good that even Meruem couldn't beat her, but she had no idea what Nen even was.

Zepile actually did this too, albeit to a less extreme extent. The serial killer knife-maker was another, as well as, well, everyone whose stuff Gon and Killua bought in Yorknew, though we only saw the effects of their work, not them personally.

Though Komugi is the only one we see actually using Nen unconsciously- Wait, no, we both forgot the big one. Neon. She had a full nen ability developed that she didn't even know about.

tbp
Mar 1, 2008

DU WIRST NIEMALS ALLEINE MARSCHIEREN
did meruem even have an explicit hatsu? was it the fact that he could eat other beings w/ nen and absorb their abilities, or was that just part of his biology? considering im fairly sure nen was never fully explained to him (only pitou seemed to like really get into the details of it) its almost absurd how powerful he was

EmmyOk
Aug 11, 2013

tbp posted:

did meruem even have an explicit hatsu? was it the fact that he could eat other beings w/ nen and absorb their abilities, or was that just part of his biology? considering im fairly sure nen was never fully explained to him (only pitou seemed to like really get into the details of it) its almost absurd how powerful he was

Nah that wasn't his Hatsu or at least not explicitly, he was basically just a perfect being. His instant teleportation level speed + Photon makes Hatus unnecessary anyways.

Kild
Apr 24, 2010

Meruem was probably an Enhancer anyway.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
he was too young and unformed to have a hatsu. generally people develop their nen to give them what they want, and until komugi meruem only wanted things within the reach of his originally remarkable abilities.

Wark Say
Feb 22, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
I really dig the whole way Meruem was dealt with due to the fact that, despite being so hideously powerful that even one the strongest Hunters / Nen-Users alive went down with relative ease from his perspective, he gets killed in such a "mundane" (still loving horrifying if you think about it, though) way that it makes you think what Togashi was trying to say something like: "Yeah, Cell/Majin Buu would totally get killed by a nuke or the radioactive poisoning of one in a more realistic setting. How about them apples?".

Additionally, the fact that they mentioned that a poo poo-ton of countries are stockpiling a bucket-load of the loving things and that they're not all that shy about using them. :stare:

Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



College Slice
Character has been on-panel for like ten pages and already I just want her and her buddy to get out of this intact. Stay safe around your evil murder-prince you two.

(they are both doomed as gently caress)

Also that beast design is fantastic. Show it earlier in the chapter looking comparatively 'normal' wide-shot, followed by some weirder beasts (including the weird insect-hulk), then finish up with that terrifying stare-down to say "no, it's this one, this is the worst one".

Pierson fucked around with this message at 23:37 on Jun 29, 2017

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

Shocked I tell you

Wark Say posted:

I really dig the whole way Meruem was dealt with due to the fact that, despite being so hideously powerful that even one the strongest Hunters / Nen-Users alive went down with relative ease from his perspective, he gets killed in such a "mundane" (still loving horrifying if you think about it, though) way that it makes you think what Togashi was trying to say something like: "Yeah, Cell/Majin Buu would totally get killed by a nuke or the radioactive poisoning of one in a more realistic setting. How about them apples?".

Additionally, the fact that they mentioned that a poo poo-ton of countries are stockpiling a bucket-load of the loving things and that they're not all that shy about using them. :stare:

It's why the Ants were considered a B Rank threat. While they could do a lot of damage and spread pretty quickly if Meruem had succeeded in mating and producing new queens, they ultimately would never have beaten Humanity as in the end they could just nuke em.

The A Rank threats from the Dark Continent are stuff that can't really be fought. Which is the reason Netero was not interested in the Dark Continent as a challenge, as he was a martial artist and fighter foremost, so stuff he could not fight did not really perk his interest.

e X
Feb 23, 2013

cool but crude
For me, Meruem wasn't evil because he was just an animal in the end and behaved like one. Up to the point where he regenerated any way. He was basically trying to become (pack) leader of the world by challenging and defeating those stronger than him in various disciplines, but that is just not how human society functions. Even someone like Netero, who was very much in tune with nature and part of that kind of world, realized that if he couldn't beat Meruem with his natural abilities, he would have to use other means.

And also, I am pretty sure it says somewhere in the manga that Meruem was a Specialist and that his ability was indeed being able to absorb peoples aura by eating their brain, though it has been a while since I last read those chapters.

Brought To You By
Oct 31, 2012

Rangpur posted:

I completely forgot Nen wasn't just a thing everyone in the world knew about already. Comes of the last couple arcs (that is, the last decade of the comic) revolving entirely around people who already knew about it. The Hunter's Association must do a real good job covering that poo poo up.

The martial arts school that teaches Nen was founded by Netero himself so the hunter's association has a lot of control over what I would assume the majority of Nen training exists. Likewise it's only really possible to obtain nen through meditation and knowledge of the art, and people who know it keep it very secret as we saw in the last few chapters. Wing mentions that while anyone can learn nen, there is great care taken in who is taught it so whatever masters exist in the world all seem very particular about who they share their information with. Which is why Theta is in the current situation she's in; Tserriednich is a literal monster that wears human skin and should never be allowed to develop any sort of abilities through Nen.

Imagine the kinds of stuff he could do if he were to pursue manipulation alone. On top of his Nen beast that's not going to make him unstoppable, but a greater evil than should be allowed to exist. It makes me wonder why she signed up to work for him in the first place.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
it's not that he is a monster, though he unquestionably is. it is that he is a brilliant, talented monster with very particular obsessions, and nen tends to be oriented around a given person's obsessions. the worst we've seen was probably chrollo's indoor fish, but what could a genius dedicated to death and mutilation come up with?

Wark Say
Feb 22, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

gimme the GOD drat candy posted:

the worst we've seen was probably chrollo's indoor fish, but what could a genius dedicated to death and mutilation come up with?
Chrollo seems pretty on the ball when it comes to murdering.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007

Wark Say posted:

Chrollo seems pretty on the ball when it comes to murdering.

killing is a means to an end, for chrollo. he doesn't get off on killing or fighting. besides, if he really took pleasure in murder then why would he create a hatsu which requires keeping his targets alive?

EmmyOk
Aug 11, 2013

It's a conditional that means it's harder for him to steal and maintain skills. I totally agree with you though, Chrollo explicitly states his joy comes from stealing an ability and through it's use discovering the hidden dark thoughts of its creator. T*ch is the last person on the planet I'd want to find out about Nen.

cuntman.net
Mar 1, 2013

Tserriednichs nen beast seems to resemble the king's nen beast the most, I dont know if that means anything though

Genocyber
Jun 4, 2012

TWIST FIST posted:

Tserriednichs nen beast seems to resemble the king's nen beast the most, I dont know if that means anything though

The older prince lady's was more similar I thought, given all the boobs.

EmmyOk
Aug 11, 2013

I was rereading the chapter and goddamn Tubeppa's chamelon motor car Stand is the best one by far

Wark Say
Feb 22, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

gimme the GOD drat candy posted:

killing is a means to an end, for chrollo. he doesn't get off on killing or fighting. besides, if he really took pleasure in murder then why would he create a hatsu which requires keeping his targets alive?
Ah, right! Yeah, Chrollo is a hustler. It's just that when you said "A genius dedicated to death", I thought "Genius at killing people". I think that re-watching both of the John Wick films recently made me remember that Chrollo, aside from the Indoor Fish instance, mostly used pens, which in turn made me remember that whole "I once saw him kill three people with a pencil. A. loving. Pencil" and the reaction that Viggo's lawyer has to remembering that scene.

Man, Michael Nyqvist dying was such a bummer. :(

mabels big day
Feb 25, 2012

Schubalts posted:

Most people who develop Nen do so completely unconsciously. Wing used Olympic-tier athletes as an example, but Komugi was one example we personally see. Her Nen came about because she desperately needed to be, and stay, extremely good at gungi, and it's partially why she was so good that even Meruem couldn't beat her, but she had no idea what Nen even was.

wait a second, komugi was unconsciously using nen to be so good at gungi?! i never even realized this

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

EmmyOk posted:

Nah that wasn't his Hatsu or at least not explicitly, he was basically just a perfect being. His instant teleportation level speed + Photon makes Hatus unnecessary anyways.

That second one was just an evolved form of shia labeouf's technique.

mabels big day posted:

wait a second, komugi was unconsciously using nen to be so good at gungi?! i never even realized this

She actually starts using nen mid-match with the King.

Tunicate fucked around with this message at 04:13 on Jun 30, 2017

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mabels big day
Feb 25, 2012

Tunicate posted:

That second one was just an evolved form of shia labeouf's technique.


She actually starts using nen mid-match with the King.

does anyone ever explicitly mention this, like the King? i kind of remember seeing her with an aura around her sometimes but I guess my small dinosaur brain didn't make the connection that it was Nen, and just thought it was showing how intimidating and powerful she was in the world of gungi

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